The definition of a successful man

anab0lic36

anab0lic36

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A mans success is not measured by how much money he has in his bank account, nor the car that he drives or house he lives in. Not by the number of women he has bed or how hot the wife is that he has on his arm. A man can posses all of these things in abundance and be a complete and utter failure in the things that matter most in life... only envied by fools. A mans success is measured by how profound a positive change he has made in the world. The purpose of life is to grow internally, to reach your potential or get as close as possible, then use that growth towards the benefit of the species as a whole.
 
Women are attracted to men who increase the odds of her children's survival, so success is attractive, but so are intelligence and a slew of other traits that increase the chances our kids will be successful. It just seems that beauty should fall behind intelligence. Men seem more attracted to physical beauty than other traits. Would guys really rather have pretty kids than smart kids?
 
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anab0lic36 said:
how much have monks enriched the life's of those around them?
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Ascetics created and maintained all the major religions, but those religions never would have gotten anywhere without men who knew how to play the game. So we can say material and spiritual forces work hand in hand.
 
haxan7 said:
Ascetics created and maintained all the major religions, but those religions never would have gotten anywhere without men who knew how to play the game. So we can say material and spiritual forces work hand in hand.
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Then they have, in their own way, contributed in a positive manner towards society and thus a success. As for MOST successful men in history, as stated in your original reply, I would not agree.
 
anab0lic36 said:
how much have monks enriched the life's of those around them?
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Pull ya pants up son, your ignorance is showing.

www.forbes.com

Let's Remember Monks Are Some Of Our Best Businessmen And Innovators

Even monks have to make money. The Acton Institute's Dylan Pahman flags a new report by the Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops of North and Central America which reminds us that monks are also businessmen: Saint Benedict's motto was "Ora et Labora"--"Pray and Work", and those monastic...
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Loads.
 
nush said:
Pull ya pants up son, your ignorance is showing.

www.forbes.com

Let's Remember Monks Are Some Of Our Best Businessmen And Innovators

Even monks have to make money. The Acton Institute's Dylan Pahman flags a new report by the Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops of North and Central America which reminds us that monks are also businessmen: Saint Benedict's motto was "Ora et Labora"--"Pray and Work", and those monastic...
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

Loads.
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I never said they hadn't. Might want to work on that reading comprehension of yours.
 
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Vier said:
Women are attracted to men who increase the odds of her children's survival, so success is attractive, but so are intelligence and a slew of other traits that increase the chances our kids will be successful. It just seems that beauty should fall behind intelligence. Men seem more attracted to physical beauty than other traits. Would guys really rather have pretty kids than smart kids?
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Well yes, this is what a WOMEN perceives as a successful man, which is unfortunately, a rather shallow incomplete analysis of man and not in alignment with what we as men in our hearts, minds and souls know to be enough for our own personal fulfilment. You can in fact be a completely deplorable, immoral, ignorant selfish human being, who makes his money only through exploitive means, but so long as you have wealth and/or good looks, you will attract more women than you will ever have time for. But ask yourself, do you really want to be that kind of person.... is that success to YOU? Sometimes I think it takes men having lived that sort of life, one which is often portrayed as 'success' in our increasing degenerate society, to truly understand how hollow and yearning for something more it will leave you inside. As you are going against what nature has intended for you, (to do good for your fellow man, to optimize human progress)which will always land you in personal trouble. It may bring you children, and that in itself (depending on how you raise them) can be a worthwhile contribution and a success, perhaps they have more to offer than you ever will. However, so often it comes at the expense of a man reaching his own potential, financially crippling him and enslaving him to some Job that is beneath what he is truly capable of giving... draining him of his energy and time that could be used towards his own personal development, that in turn, is directed towards greater purposes. Even if you happen to be one of the few who makes it to 'financial freedom', that freedom is so often misused and the acquisition of wealth and what that entitles one to, can lead you astray.... take your focus of what really matters. This is seen with many wealthy people, who cant for the life of them understand why when they have 'everything' they are so miserable and often turn to drugs and other vices for a temporary high or escape from their own misery. This was understood well by Greek philosophers and why they would often give their money away, 'rather the money be destroyed, than the money destroy me.' If you look at great men of the past, such as Tesla or Da Vinci, (who really didn't, as far as the history books go, involve themselves with women much) the way they speak about their inventions, are as though they are children of their mind, and said children often live much longer and can have a greater lasting impact, than those of a single human being brought into the world. In an ideal world you want both, the continuation of your genetics and to make profound change through your own contributions, but we are far from inhabiting such a utopia.
 
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Y'know, I set out and achieved every single goal I've had related to career/work. I've accomplished more in my personal life than I thought was possible. I'm on target to reach my financial goals much quicker than originally planned. I can coast, quite honestly. But instead, I keep asking myself what's next. I know there are new goals I want to achieve for myself, places I want to see, but what's the next big target I can work toward?

That's what success is to me; Having the drive to continue to set new goals and to achieve those goals. Always looking forward. Never settling.
 
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The beauty of the world is there is no point beyond survival. Some measure success in life monetarily, some by the size of family created, some by the impact left behind, some by the lack of influence to the natural world and how little is left behind after they go.... and the harshness of survival comes into play because the reality is it's all personal opinion and really doesn't matter at all, opinions are like assholes everyone has one and they all smell like shit.

Just means you have complete freedom to forge your life ahead how you want to and the only measure of success that matters is how you feel about that in the end.
 
Most people define success on their own terms, and what your definition is will not be another's. If you f el successful then most likely you are, enjoy it.
 
Successful is a strange word to pick. I'd go with moral, good - something assessing character. Failure happens to lots of good people. But when you're on your death bed I think that you mostly think about your character.

Successful people are important too but its an entirely different thing. Lots of important and successful people didnt lead exemplary moral lives. But for the specific goals they set out to accomplish they are successful.
 
As a Christian, I believe that the most successful life is the one that has stored up the most treasure in heaven, eternal reward, which can never be lost to thieves or decay. Any man, rich or poor, slave or free, can serve God with heroic virtue. And so eternal glory is freely offered to all who seek it. The more you serve God, the more God will reward you with a greater degree of sharing in His divine life in eternity. But even the least in heaven lives in the unimaginable bliss of God. In the same way, every man who knowingly does evil and rejects God, stores up for himself a greater measure of wrath in judgment with every sin.

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust[a] consume and where thieves break in and steal; but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust[b] consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matthew 6:19-21)

"But by your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed. For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury." (Romans 2:5-8)

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And so the greatest man is not the most handsome, the most strong, the most wealthy, the most famous, etc. Those are merely accidents of one's birth, or fleeting honors and possessions, all destined to fade away into nothing. The man who is most like God, the most holy, the most good, the most loving, he is the greatest man. And so men such as that will have the greatest reward and therefore have lived the greatest and most successful lives.
 
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haxan7 said:
By that measure, monks should be the most successful men in the history of the world.

I suggest you revise your hypothesis
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I have no doubt that many Catholic monks are among the greatest and most successful men who have ever lived, in God's eyes. And God cannot be wrong, by logical necessity.
 
My father, who passed away last month. Never known another man like him in 41 years. He didnt have loads of money, wore the same old clothes and just didnt care who you were or where you came, he'd help you over himself. Everybody loved him, I consider him rich and successful in the things that mattered

Like I say, never known anyone like him. From things i've seen to people I knew and know, the world became a lot darker after his passing and it's highlighted just how fake and shit people can be.
 
it's all down to what you personally view as a success.

but what ever way you can we should help and leave the world in a better state than which we found it.
 
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Disagree that the purpose of life is to grow internally. We are social creatures. There is a reason solitary isolation is considered torture and only used in extreme circumstances.

The definition of a successful man is one who follows the Bible or other traditions of his upbringing, who respects history, who works hard and doesn't over-complain, who raises a family and is part of a community. He is not dependent on his government, he is not a burden on others, but a benefit.

This inner life purist bullshit can lead people to some dark places. Pol Pot was once a Buddhist monk before he led the systemic killing of millions.

He too thought he was "making a positive impact in the world". Trying to impact the world to a big degree can get you into trouble.

Stay local, think global. The successful man is plugged into his local community. Globalists are puppeteers that tell others what to do. They feign creativity. The successful man creations nations from his own member.
 
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Most men are doing pretty good if they live lives where they simply do as little harm to others as possible. If you actively make a positive difference in the world, you're successful.
 
A successful man is someone who has a car, a decent/very good source of income. You don't have to have a house since townhomes and some apartments are very good and much cheaper, also if you don't have a lot but your well on your way, females do love a man that's on his way to success since it feels like she was apart of the journey.
 
Ten_Fold said:
A successful man is someone who has a car, a decent/very good source of income. You don't have to have a house since townhomes and some apartments are very good and much cheaper, also if you don't have a lot but your well on your way, females do love a man that's on his way to success since it feels like she was apart of the journey.
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This definition automatically rules out like 20% of the male population on earth.
 
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