The definition of a successful man

Reality Czar said:
Disagree that the purpose of life is to grow internally. We are social creatures. There is a reason solitary isolation is considered torture and only used in extreme circumstances.

The definition of a successful man is one who follows the Bible or other traditions of his upbringing, who respects history, who works hard and doesn't over-complain, who raises a family and is part of a community. He is not dependent on his government, he is not a burden on others, but a benefit.

This inner life purist bullshit can lead people to some dark places. Pol Pot was once a Buddhist monk before he led the systemic killing of millions.

He too thought he was "making a positive impact in the world". Trying to impact the world to a big degree can get you into trouble.

Stay local, think global. The successful man is plugged into his local community. Globalists are puppeteers that tell others what to do. They feign creativity. The successful man creations nations from his own member.
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VAL0R said:
As a Christian, I believe that the most successful life is the one that has stored up the most treasure in heaven, eternal reward, which can never be lost to thieves or decay. Any man, rich or poor, slave or free, can serve God with heroic virtue. And so eternal glory is freely offered to all who seek it. The more you serve God, the more God will reward you with a greater degree of sharing in His divine life in eternity. But even the least in heaven lives in the unimaginable bliss of God. In the same way, every man who knowingly does evil and rejects God, stores up for himself a greater measure of wrath in judgment with every sin.

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust[a] consume and where thieves break in and steal; but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust[b] consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matthew 6:19-21)

"But by your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed. For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury." (Romans 2:5-8)

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And so the greatest man is not the most handsome, the most strong, the most wealthy, the most famous, etc. Those are merely accidents of one's birth, or fleeting honors and possessions, all destined to fade away into nothing. The man who is most like God, the most holy, the most good, the most loving, he is the greatest man. And so men such as that will have the greatest reward and therefore have lived the greatest and most successful lives.
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I've got a question about this. Are priests who fuck kids able to go to heaven if they confess their sins? They'd literally be confessing to their co-workers and often times to a fellow pedophile, since a lot of the abuses are covered up by multiple people. If god forgives them for this, will they still have big treasures when they get to heaven? Will the kids meet up with their abusers and frolic in the fields? Lots of really fucked up shit in the bible, so I'm assuming god is chill with this as long as you worship him and only him? I know there's supposed to be free will and everything, but how does that mesh with god's "plan" people talk about? Can you still be a successful person in god's eyes if you dedicate your whole life to him and spreading his message, while also pederasting around and confessing each time?

I just don't see how people can continue to follow these religions that are based on literally no proof. I'm genuinely interested in this because obviously nobody knows what god is thinking(or do they? :eek: ), but still they have absolute faith in the word of god (actually in the word of man, because man is telling these stories to each other but god ain't saying shit).

Sorry if that's a little off topic, but I figured since multiple people are referencing religion it's fine. If not we can make a new thread specifically about religious claims and beliefs and proof. But it kinda is on topic, since these priests and those in their community probably think they're living a very successful and fruitful life. And I'm not implying that all priests are pederasts. But it seems like a job that's easy to target gullible people and children.

In regards to OP, I don't think we can really put a definition on "successful man" since there's so many vastly different cultures still in the world. Success means different things to different people. Being able to financially provide for my family and doing things that we want is probably my basic defintion. Helping people is hella cool too. In my opinion, live peacfully and enjoy the life you're given. The odds are literally astronomical that you were shat out of a specific woman's womb from a specific spermal entity. We're fucking lucky to be alive. Be happy and chill the best you can.


It's funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I've accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What makes a man? Is it being prepared to do the right thing? Whatever the cost? Isn't that that makes a man?
 
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Artemis sounding like a raving Qanon looner. No surprise, mainstream pop culture hates Christianity and has brainwashed people like him into the false narrative that Catholic priests are more rapey than public school teachers. I'm going to warn you, the facts are not in your favor. Like at all.

The rest of your post reads like a Reddit Atheist screed from 20 years ago. If you want to continue to question Christians from a position of ignorance, there is a dedicated thread you can feel free to do so there. It seems like the only thing you know about Christianity is what you learned from Family Guy skits. Maybe there you could educate yourself. Ignorance does not suit you.

Furthermore, I don't think you can be a successful man if other people simply describing their own lives causes you to fly off into a rage like that. There is something very insecure about a poster who lashes out with so many bizarre and unrelated accusations. A successful man is a good member of his community, and respects his other community members in good faith. Firing off reactionary and emotional accusations does not seem the way to go.
 
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Reality Czar said:
Artemis sounding like a raving Qanon looner. No surprise, mainstream pop culture hates Christianity and has brainwashed people like him into the false narrative that Catholic priests are more rapey than public school teachers. I'm going to warn you, the facts are not in your favor. Like at all.

The rest of your post reads like a Reddit Atheist screed from 20 years ago. If you want to continue to question Christians from a position of ignorance, there is a dedicated thread you can feel free to do so there. It seems like the only thing you know about Christianity is what you learned from Family Guy skits. Maybe there you could educate yourself. Ignorance does not suit you.

Furthermore, I don't think you can be a successful man if other people simply describing their own lives causes you to fly off into a rage like that. There is something very insecure about a poster who lashes out with so many bizarre and unrelated accusations. A successful man is a good member of his community, and respects his other community members in good faith. Firing off reactionary and emotional accusations does not seem the way to go.
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So one post on neogaf determines if you've lived a successful life? lmao they were just questions. Furthermore, I don't think you can be a successful man if other people simply asking questions about other people's beliefs causes you to fly off into a rage like this.
 
Ten_Fold said:
A successful man is someone who has a car, a decent/very good source of income. You don't have to have a house since townhomes and some apartments are very good and much cheaper, also if you don't have a lot but your well on your way, females do love a man that's on his way to success since it feels like she was apart of the journey.
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This has to be a joke.
 
Owning a car is nothing compared to owning property. Truly a man who owns property is a success. The only people who used to be able to do that were Lords.

Getting married and raising children imo is essential. You have to be reproducing and putting new members of the human race into the population. By raising your children well, you live on into the future, and it is a better life than the one you had before. You can find the poorest farmer ever who earns no income and if he has this big family and a farm he has worked hard at, you cannot deny he is a success.

It is ok to entertain yourself. But that's not the meaning of life. Detachment from others will lead to insanity. A lot of people think they want to live like rats hitting that pellet button over and over.
 
VAL0R said:
And so the greatest man is not the most handsome, the most strong, the most wealthy, the most famous, etc. Those are merely accidents of one's birth, or fleeting honors and possessions, all destined to fade away into nothing. The man who is most like God, the most holy, the most good, the most loving, he is the greatest man. And so men such as that will have the greatest reward and therefore have lived the greatest and most successful lives.
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Pretty much this

Mostly because to me traditional success that lasts beyond the next generation is extremely rare and success that endures for hundreds of years is limited to a select handful of people. If you're really lucky they'll build a statue of you so that kids in the future can tear it down and call you whatever "-ist" is all the rage in their day. Time is a great equalizer when comparing the success and value of our lives.

So I don't really have a lot of interest in living out my life purely to meet the idea of success of others because it's all so fleeting. Which is why my mind often tends to drift toward what is actually permanent.

Secularly speaking though, I think trying to define success can be a subjective process that is subject to a lot of norms and values of the present day. So my secular answer would be to view the topic from the definition of an unsuccessful person instead. I'm guessing there is a lot more consensus going in that direction.

After all, we could probably debate whether someone who has worked as a cashier for 50 years versus the CEO of the company has led a more successful life but we can all agree that they're both better than the most famous and wealthy pedophiles and murderers.
 
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Surviving the Gom Jabbar.

That's particular even for a metaphor. Elite like OPs example. Not everyone should or needs to follow.

Generally,
walked down the roads to call themselves a man.
 
Honestly there is no true measure. It's very subjective. Why? Because ultimately there is little purpose or meaning to life at all aside from what you assign or accept as being meaningful.
 
A mans success is measured by how profound a positive change he has made in the world. The purpose of life is to grow internally, to reach your potential or get as close as possible, then use that growth towards the benefit of the species as a whole.
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If you don't end up "reaching your potential" (and how do we define what your "potential" is?), does that make you a failure?

If you don't use your growth toward "the benefit of the species as a whole," does that make you a failure? What if you benefit just one part of the species? What if you benefit a different species? Does that count?

Whose criteria of "positive" are we using, to define "positive change" in the world? Plenty of disagreement about that on many fronts.

And if you are doing all these things, and yet you are miserable and depressed, have you succeeded?


I think Emerson got a little closer, at least for my tastes.

"To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate the beauty; to find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded!"



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For me success would be 1. getting better at what I love to do (concept of mastery) and 2. earning enough money out of it to make a living
 
I can more easily say what's not a successful man than what is.
There are character qualities that you absolutely shouldn't have. But the rest? It's so open ended. Make someone else's life better is all I say.
 
Reality Czar said:
Disagree that the purpose of life is to grow internally. We are social creatures. There is a reason solitary isolation is considered torture and only used in extreme circumstances.

The definition of a successful man is one who follows the Bible or other traditions of his upbringing, who respects history, who works hard and doesn't over-complain, who raises a family and is part of a community. He is not dependent on his government, he is not a burden on others, but a benefit.

This inner life purist bullshit can lead people to some dark places. Pol Pot was once a Buddhist monk before he led the systemic killing of millions.

He too thought he was "making a positive impact in the world". Trying to impact the world to a big degree can get you into trouble.

Stay local, think global. The successful man is plugged into his local community. Globalists are puppeteers that tell others what to do. They feign creativity. The successful man creations nations from his own member.
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I can get behind your definition, maybe without the religious bits. Not a religious person, myself. I think it does more harm than good. But I agree with being a proactive part of your community and practicing the golden rule (without being a frivolous idiot).

That alone can net you a lot of self-fulfillment and peace, without the creeping megalomania of "making an impact on the world".

Dr.Morris79 said:
My father, who passed away last month. Never known another man like him in 41 years. He didnt have loads of money, wore the same old clothes and just didnt care who you were or where you came, he'd help you over himself. Everybody loved him, I consider him rich and successful in the things that mattered

Like I say, never known anyone like him. From things i've seen to people I knew and know, the world became a lot darker after his passing and it's highlighted just how fake and shit people can be.
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This is a good example. There's quite a few people like this, of simple means, who are worth ten times a person like who amasses immense wealth and all that that brings. Sadly they don't get propped up as often as certain dickweeds.

My grandfather is an amazing example. He raised a family of 8 children, who brought him grandchildren, and to this day brightens up people's spirits with his disposition. He did that driving a truck and secretly coping with and treating schizophrenia. I would have never known, since I've never seen him be anything but smiles and jokes. I wish I could see him more.
 
To be a successful man. I'm not sure what that means. Surly success in life is based on the experience of the beholder.

I see lots of ideas in this thread as to what the measure of success looks like, but perhaps we should take the Socrates route and first come up with an agreed definition as to what success is.
 
anab0lic36 said:
A mans success is not measured by how much money he has in his bank account, nor the car that he drives or house he lives in. Not by the number of women he has bed or how hot the wife is that he has on his arm. A man can posses all of these things in abundance and be a complete and utter failure in the things that matter most in life... only envied by fools. A mans success is measured by how profound a positive change he has made in the world. The purpose of life is to grow internally, to reach your potential or get as close as possible, then use that growth towards the benefit of the species as a whole.
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*thinking about this on his 200k yatch and with a mojito*
 
Guardian's Light said:
No point in having a wife if you have a big dick and know how to make good use of it
Unlimited pussy for life
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I prefer to fuck one person

I'd actually like to made an addendum to my original post, bc I just thought of something waaayyy better than big dick and smokin hot wife

huge penis, and smoking hot sugar mama wife

😎
 
Talking seriously, success is not something you can always classify, there are dozens of different criterias, there's money, social success etc.

For me? Feeling fully self realized, if you can wake up every morning, with a smile, with your doggy saluting you, have a fantastic breakfast, can't wait to go to a work you love, knowing lots of friends and persons you trust, and maybe having a partner you love and loves you back as much, going on with your favorite hobbies, take long walks in nature, and being able to travel and see fantastic places, trying as much new experiences as possible, and basically have an equilibrium between work, sociality, busy time and free time...well, in my eyes you're the luckiest and most successful person alive

I lived all my life with these goals, right now I can say I fullfilled most of them, except for a girl ( dozens of negative experiences, even really recently, Don't believe in love and relationships anymore, I just accepted is the unluckiest aspect of my life and moved over it ) and I miss my regular work schedules due to closed gyms, also I'm distant to most of my friends due to covid rules in my country, but I'm looking right to the moment we 'll live freely again to restart with full power
 
There is not one way to be successful. The key to success starts with knowing yourself. Figuring out what you want. What you're capable of. And then doing what you can to make those things happen for yourself. Hopefully what you want is based on some actual values beyond immediate self gratification and you actually do some good for someone outside yourself.

But there is a difference between a "successful" person, which is basically self defined by each individual, and a "great" person, which is usually measured by your impact on other people.
 
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In my opinion, you're successful if you can maintain a happy state of mind throughout the majority of your life.

Anything else is external.

I see a lot of posts saying "big wallet, big titty wife, nice car" but all those things are status symbols we use to placate others. They are only important because society says so. Nothing is important because nothing lasts. Nobody will remember you or your hot wife in 100 years and you'll be too dead to give a fuck.

Just do whatever makes you happy and stop listenting to others. Yes, I see the irony of this post but whatever.
 
Success is measured by the woman (or octopus) you are with, we do this in the form of a ratio.

How much sexier than you : How much shit they cause you.


Any other measure is a precursor to this truth. People scoring 0:0 are doing well. Don't feel bad.
 
LisaMariaMartin said:
In my opinion, you're successful if you can maintain a happy state of mind throughout the majority of your life.

Anything else is external.

I see a lot of posts saying "big wallet, big titty wife, nice car" but all those things are status symbols we use to placate others. They are only important because society says so. Nothing is important because nothing lasts. Nobody will remember you or your hot wife in 100 years and you'll be too dead to give a fuck.

Just do whatever makes you happy and stop listenting to others. Yes, I see the irony of this post but whatever.
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How can you maintain a happy state of mind without big tiddy?
 
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