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The Division Beta Thread: Make Manhattan Great Again

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i don't fully understand the dark zone. i went there to see what it was about a group of 3 started shooting at me, i shoot back, kill two, and it says i disavowed the division and have been marked as rogue and then somebody else kills me. meanwhile i'm all confused like ??? was i not supposed to return fire and protect myself???

in that group of 3, did all shoot at you and hit you? It's by a first shot basis.

If one guy shoots you, they go rogue, if you shoot someone that didn''t shoot you in that group, you go rogue
 
Well I've played on Xbox and PC.

Both looked fine to me but PC is obviously better depending on your rig.

PC feels like the place I'll pick it up, aiming feels much better with a mouse. Able to get crits and hit people behind cover easier.

Dark Zone feels awesome, grouping up hunt down rogues or people in manhunt status. Killing people for loot. Just really appeals to me even if the loot from my beta levels isn't all that great.
 

Zeta Oni

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i don't fully understand the dark zone. i went there to see what it was about a group of 3 started shooting at me, i shoot back, kill two, and it says i disavowed the division and have been marked as rogue and then somebody else kills me. meanwhile i'm all confused like ??? was i not supposed to return fire and protect myself???

Personal rule of thumb for me is:

If you shoot me first, your getting bodied. If you let me know in time it was an accident, I'll even revive you after I put you down, which has happened a few times so far and I've been on both ends.

Also, tip:

If you find yourself on the run while rogue, the extraction point on the parking lot roof has a building behind it you can zipline and guard until your time is out. The zipline that would make the space hard to defend is out of bounds, so you only need to guard where you come up.
 

Tovarisc

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i don't fully understand the dark zone. i went there to see what it was about a group of 3 started shooting at me, i shoot back, kill two, and it says i disavowed the division and have been marked as rogue and then somebody else kills me. meanwhile i'm all confused like ??? was i not supposed to return fire and protect myself???

There is damage done threshold that has to be passed in order to be flagged as rogue. They shot you few times, but didn't pass threshold so they didn't get flagged, but because you returned fire like any smart person while passing threshold you got flagged as rogue.

Game gives a lot advantages to those who plan on killing someone, and can even bait their target into turning into rogue.
 
I'm curious too, is it only playing in winter ?

I would imagine so. The story seems to revolve around you going in and unfucking NYC in a timely manner. They would have to completely redo the art assets for the entire city for other seasons as well. Would probably be too large of an undertaking for anything other than a year 2 big expansion.
 

Max_Po

Banned
I played the beta and did not want to get into the thing to deep.

I have a preorder in Canada from years ago at FutureShop for 39.99 CDN.


However, I am getting a feeling of generic. I am trying to read impressions of people in the thread.


The graphics are pretty decent :)
 
I can find bad looking places even in most amazing looking games out there.
it's from beggining in the game, play some more. City is really great and there are some really good weather effects.

I'd say that the game looks a lot better when you run around the city and the weather and lighting all kick in, the home hub at the start of the game is bland and boring in comparison.

It doesn't matter where you are. It does not look good.

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I would imagine so. The story seems to revolve around you going in and unfucking NYC in a timely manner. They would have to completely redo the art assets for the entire city for other seasons as well. Would probably be too large of an undertaking for anything other than a year 2 big expansion.

Makes sense, if they would make it for all 4 seasons this game would be approx. 100 GB or larger :p
 

Phinor

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Are we playing the same game? All the guns I've used thus far have recoil. In fact, that's one of the things that makes getting those consecutive shots a lot more challenging.

I'm playing on PC and I almost want to say there's literally no recoil in my weapons. Maybe there is very minimal recoil but I can't really notice any recoil at all. It makes the gunfights feel terrible, it doesn't feel like you are actually shooting with guns (not helped by the bullet sponge enemies).

After few hours this game is probably awesome for people who want to really dig deep into it. Personally I'm not feeling this game at all. Neat idea, but not for me.
 

Ryuuga

Banned
On graphics, the game neither looks shit nor amazing. It teeters a fine line of mediocrity looking better during some weather conditions and time of day while flat during others. The textures, smoke effects and character models aren't doing anything for me, but their overall rendition of an apocalyptic NY is a good one (specifally in the DZ)


I'm playing on PC and I almost want to say there's literally no recoil in my weapons. Maybe there is very minimal recoil but I can't really notice any recoil at all.

This is interesting. I can't say I experienced that feeling at any point during my session.
 

danowat

Banned
I'm playing on PC and I almost want to say there's literally no recoil in my weapons. Maybe there is very minimal recoil but I can't really notice any recoil at all. It makes the gunfights feel terrible, it doesn't feel like you are actually shooting with guns (not helped by the bullet sponge enemies).

After few hours this game is probably awesome for people who want to really dig deep into it. Personally I'm not feeling this game at all. Neat idea, but not for me.

I've got a Scar H that recoils all over the shop.

I can't understand all the 'looks like trash' comments, it seems every single game always has loads of people hating on visuals.
 

cripterion

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I like the gameplay, like the graphics, the setting and love coop games but ultimately can't help to feel this will be small pickings come release, just not enough things to do and too much repetitiveness might kill the game. Don't get me wrong, I know there will be more content at launch but not sure it will be enough for me.

I already feel bored after spending a couple of hours on the beta, kinda reminds me of Destiny in that regard :(
 
I like the gameplay, like the graphics, the setting and love coop games but ultimately can't help to feel this will be small pickings come release, just not enough things to do and too much repetitiveness might kill the game. Don't get me wrong, I know there will be more content at launch but not sure it will be enough for me.

I already feel bored after spending a couple of hours on the beta, kinda reminds me of Destiny in that regard :(

The alpha/beta is very limited (1 MAIN mission). It'll be interesting to see how much content is there at release.
 

Ceadeus

Member
Hi, what kind of performance I should expect from a i5 4590/GTX970/8GigRam1600MHZ

And what will I have to drop to obtain 60fps+ constant in 1080p

Thank you!
 

Akronis

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I'm playing on PC and I almost want to say there's literally no recoil in my weapons. Maybe there is very minimal recoil but I can't really notice any recoil at all. It makes the gunfights feel terrible, it doesn't feel like you are actually shooting with guns (not helped by the bullet sponge enemies).

After few hours this game is probably awesome for people who want to really dig deep into it. Personally I'm not feeling this game at all. Neat idea, but not for me.

This is what I was afraid of. I'm used to the satisfaction of having to learn to control the weapons.

Bullet-spongey enemies are unforgivable as well :(
 
Yo this game is great, I'm having a really good time just walking around the city shooting people, found some good loot and some cool looking clothes too, which I'm a sucker for in games like this.

Guys ,I have a hard time switching to my handgun .Holding triangle does not work.

Double tap triangle.
 
Guys ,I have a hard time switching to my handgun .Holding triangle does not work.

hit triangle twice in a row quickly

This is what I was afraid of. I'm used to the satisfaction of having to learn to control the weapons.

Bullet-spongey enemies are unforgivable as well :(

You will still have to learn guns on the pc. There is still recoil. It's just a bit easier to control on the mouse. The game is an RPG first with a higher TTK. Unforgiveable? no. Not your cup of tea? maybe
 

Ryuuga

Banned
Guys ,I have a hard time switching to my handgun .Holding triangle does not work.

Double-tap Triangle. Also I found this to be unresponsive at times. (I believe the currently equipped weapon has to be fully selected or drawn, before being able to switch back to handgun)
 
Yup certain parts can look damn nice and others where the lighting seems to be missing or it just looks kind of bland i guess. Overall very clean though, coming back from either Batman AK or Rise of the TR and then seeing this.....holy crap.
 

VE3TRO

Formerly Gizmowned
Can we buy new clothing or just gear? I know we have masks for contaminated areas but can we get other masks for general wearing?
 

finley83

Banned
Hi, what kind of performance I should expect from a i5 4590/GTX970/8GigRam1600MHZ

And what will I have to drop to obtain 60fps+ constant in 1080p

Thank you!

I have similar specs to you (only difference is my i5 2500k @ 4gHz) and can only get consistent 60fps at medium settings. That said, it still looks pretty great.
 
I like the gameplay, like the graphics, the setting and love coop games but ultimately can't help to feel this will be small pickings come release, just not enough things to do and too much repetitiveness might kill the game. Don't get me wrong, I know there will be more content at launch but not sure it will be enough for me.

I already feel bored after spending a couple of hours on the beta, kinda reminds me of Destiny in that regard :(

I can relate to this. I've played a bunch of the Alpha and now the Beta and while there will undoubtedly be much more in the full release i'm also worried there might not be "enough" to keep me interested for the long haul. A lot of repetitiveness and locations that are super similar paired with no competitive multiplayer experience might make me wait on reviews etc.

That said... Destiny needs some serious competition so i'm hoping to be surprised by the content that comes in the retail game.
 

TitusTroy

Member
It doesn't matter where you are. It does not look good

I'm early into the beta but I also don't see how anyone can say this game looks amazing...it doesn't look bad but there are tons of low res textures and overall less then impressive graphics...maybe night-time and some different weather will change things up but right now during the daytime the game looks very average from a graphics standpoint
 

Akronis

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hit triangle twice in a row quickly



You will still have to learn guns on the pc. There is still recoil. It's just a bit easier to control on the mouse. The game is an RPG first with a higher TTK. Unforgiveable? no. Not your cup of tea? maybe

What difficulty is there to be had in a bullet sponge enemy? Wouldn't you rather have AI that's actually smart or skilled enough where they didn't have to rely on 50000 HP to be a threat?

It's bad game design. You could even mitigate it like Metro 2033 and Last Light do by putting bullet-proof armor on specific parts of the body that you have to shoot around or destroy before you hit flesh, but you are rewarded with very low TTK if you can shoot around the armor.
 

Phinor

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This is what I was afraid of. I'm used to the satisfaction of having to learn to control the weapons.

It's weird because some people say the recoil is great and really kicking. Some people are like me, saying there's pretty much no recoil at all. Doesn't seem to be platform specific issue either because I've seen people voice both opinions on PC.
 

Ceadeus

Member
I have similar specs to you (only difference is my i5 2500k @ 4gHz) and can only get consistent 60fps at medium settings. That said, it still looks pretty great.

Ok, not bad I guess. I was expecting high setting though :/ Anyway, 13GB left to download before trying the beta, thank you for answering :)
 

TsuWave

Member
thanks to everyone shedding light in the dark zone. just one more question, i keep seeing people finding and extracting loot from there. how/where do i find it?
 

Tovarisc

Member
World for most part is disappointingly empty, at least this zone in beta is dead. With friend we found somewhat extensive sewer segment while exploring PvE zone and...
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It was empty, absolutely nothing there to see or do or find.
 
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