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The Elder Scrolls Online |OT| of THE MOST HYPED GAME EVER
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mr stroke
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hahahahahahahahaha
Yoda
Member
I sadly think it will do well enough purely from the box sale alone to where they would be fine if everyone canceled their sub after the first free month.
SRTtoZ
Member
Hence why I decided not to make this thread lol, the beta thread showed me how many people are jumping on this game with barely playing it. Just how it goes.
There are quite a few PVP community boards out there and stuff that I'll be discussing this game on (along with my guilds). GAF is very much in the hate for this game, which is too bad as the PVP in this game is fucking legit.
If you got it through a 3rd party I don't think there's anyway unless you can cancel that version and then order the imperial somewhere else. Or maybe contact who you bought the 3 day through and ask if you can upgrade to the imperial version?
Bethesda has nothing to do with this.
Yea some of my friends were like "Call your bank and cancel the transaction" but by then the game code was already attached to my ESO account and it would just be a big hassle.
Ugh~
Enjoyed the beta but I've never paid a subscription to a video game and I'm not going to start. I really don't understand paying monthly to play a video game I already own, I don't have to with all my other multiplayer games so why do I have to with MMOs? Just seems like fooling people into paying for something they're addicted too.
mr stroke
Member
AFAIK the ESO twitter reads like any "digital version" of the game comes with a 5 day head start.
Only if you do it through Zenimax Store, 3day for regular edition everywhere else
HarryDemeanor
Member
I'm not buying the game but I'm curious to see how well this game does. I didn't find the beta to be as bad as everyone else did (this is GAF so hyperbole rules the joint) but I'm not that big of an Elder Scrolls fan in the first place.
I will be watching Twitch streams of this though as I want to see how the end game PvE and PvP shakes out.
I will be watching Twitch streams of this though as I want to see how the end game PvE and PvP shakes out.
Well Bethesda isn't involved in the first place so why would they?
And the failing will likely have nothing to do with the subscription but if ESO does fail people will blame the subscription rather than the quality of the game.
Since everyone has already pointed out that Bethesda isnt making this I will point out that SW:TOR is very successful. But, hey, who needs facts?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
My girlfriend really wants to play this so we bought the standard editions. I didn't hate the beta. I thought the graphics were great and there seems to be a lot of depth so I'm looking forward to playing a bit more seriously than I did in beta.
SWTOR is the 2nd or 3rd biggest MMO in the west. Last year they made almost 140 million off cash shop purchases alone, never mind subs. I think Zenimax would be ok with that level of flop.
SWTOR is the 2nd or 3rd biggest MMO in the west. Last year they made almost 140 million off cash shop purchases alone, never mind subs. I think Zenimax would be ok with that level of flop.
Hawk269
Member
I decided to jump in on this and just did the pre-order so I could start tomorrow morning. Not sure what my character name will be as of yet, nor do I know how the servers are set up etc. I am on the West Coast and my username with Bethesda is the same as my name on here: Hawk269 (same for Xbox One).
If anyone wants to adventure up, let me know. I will post my server and character name tomorrow morning when the game is up and running.
If anyone wants to adventure up, let me know. I will post my server and character name tomorrow morning when the game is up and running.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
I believe the only have 2 servers, NA and Europe. They use a lot of instancing.
That does suck.
Especially since it's coming out on consoles soon enough. And it kind of goes against their "play as you like" philosophy. I'll be using xpadder or pinnacle to map keys to controllers and hope for the best.
Whether or not Bethesda is publishing is irrelevant. Although, according to Wikipedia, Bethesda Softworks is publishing so I assume that they do have "something to do with this". My point was that whoever is publishing this game has done nothing to get people excited for this game. After reading through the beta thread, it seems that they don't even care.
Also, when I say The Old Republic flopped, I speak in relative terms. The Old Republic was meant to be the game that took the crown from WoW. But, instead it went free to play within the first year of release. The game isn't cheap either. 500,000 subscribers are required for the game to remain profitable. So, yes, it's a flop. That doesn't mean that EA didn't improvise and salvage the situation. It just means that what they expected to happen, and what actually happened are very different.
I believe that similar situation will occur here. It will flop and it will become profitable as a free to play game. It's just with hardly any advertising and so much bad word of mouth, I can't see it meeting their projected expectations when they started making this.
♦ World of Warcraft (28.1%)
♦ Guild Wars 2 (10.7%)
♦ Star Wars: The Old Republic (7.4%)
♦ Final Fantasy XIV (5.0%)
♦ Eve Online (3.6%)
♦ DayZ (3.2%)
♦ War Thunder (2.8%)
♦ Aion (2.5%)
♦ TERA: Rising (2.4%)
♦ Andere (34.3%)
According to Xfire; http://de.xfire.com/genre/mmo/massively_multiplayer_online/
What is Andere?
It means other in German. I had some issues accessing the English one.
Hawk269
Member
Well something bad is going on with the download servers as I am downloading and it is crawling. I just did a speedtest on my connection and my speed is not the issue. I downloaded Thief on Xbox One last night in about an hour...currently, ESO is downloading at 3.2mb a second, which is pretty bad. At this point I am 1% downloaded after 20 minutes.
They need to get this fixed or it is going to be ugly tomorrow.
They need to get this fixed or it is going to be ugly tomorrow.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I am open to buying the game on the PS4 but I will wait for some reviews first.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
SWTOR has been profitable from the start and that 500k number was before F2P and the cash shop. It doesn't need that many subs to be profitable however they still have a hundreds of thousands of subs on top of the free players. It's no secret the game was losing subs in the first year at an alarming rate but much of that was due to lack of end game content. They've righted the ship since then and have been delivering content at a good clip with 2 mini-expansions already and 2 more coming this year.
Most people expect MMOs to have some sort of free option these days and I don't doubt that ESO will likely have one eventually but it's not always a sign of a flop.
Yeah, Xfire shows it as 3rd very close to GW2. SWTOR is probably making more money since they still have a sub option and no one considers GW2 a commercial flop.
This is a good question, and while I can't make any guarantees for you, I can say that I fit the "don't like MMORPGs but love the Elder Scrolls games" mold, and I really enjoyed the beta.
First the down-side: the game's dungeons especially do have the faint whiff of the WoW-style design, with enemies placed just outside of aggro range, and with the odd patrolling enemy. The combat, while more real-time than WoW and its ilk, still feels sort of "rubber banded"-- so, maybe 50% real-time versus 100% like a typical Elder Scrolls title.
The plus-side: the game really was triggering the same parts of my brain as a full-out Elder Scrolls game; after the starting islands I was dropped into Daggerfall (the city), which is absolutely massive, and from there I kept finding all sorts of neat quest lines and hidden treasure chests by simply wandering off the beaten path. It's certainly not as technically expansive as a proper Elder Scrolls game, but it doesn't need to be because it "fakes" it so effectively.
Also, from a character creation standpoint, I was blown away by the number of possible permuations. When I signed up in the Mage's Guild and was granted access to another skill tree... let's just say you can make any kind of character you could possibly want. I really like that, so much so that I actually sat on this site for a couple of hours and planned out characters for both myself and my wife.
As for lore, the game seems to be heavily soaked in it, which I liked. I learned from watching this "Elder Scrolls Lore" series (in its entirety actually, it's super well made) that ESO takes place during the 2nd Era's "interregnum"-- the period after the Alysian Empire collapses, but before the time of Tiber Septim. I suspect many of the quest lines will deal with the various daedric princes, back-story for races like the Ayliads, etc. In the area I started in the Orcs were talking a lot about Orsinium.
BattleMonkey
Member
I can't wait to see how this turns out in the end, the beta was dreadful.
Yea don't know who thought that, even the folks behind the game were targeting only a little over 1mil players. They obviously weren't expecting to take down WoW, and really didn't see anyone else who truly believed that.
That just sounds like nonsense being tossed against every MMO that comes out and doesn't achieve the same success as the "king"
Yea don't know who thought that, even the folks behind the game were targeting only a little over 1mil players. They obviously weren't expecting to take down WoW, and really didn't see anyone else who truly believed that.
That just sounds like nonsense being tossed against every MMO that comes out and doesn't achieve the same success as the "king"
Excellent information. Thanks! This is the kind of stuff I was wanting to know.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Cant wait to play it for free late this year.
Nydius
Member
They've only "righted the ship" because they went F2P and added a robust cartel market alongside some of the tightest Free and Premium restrictions in the genre. If they hadn't gone that route and tried staying a sub-only MMO - or hadn't really fleshed out the cartel market - they'd be gone right now. By EA/Bioware's own admission, the bulk of their income is from the market, not subscribers.
Releasing TESO as a box+sub baffled me because they had case after case after case of games doing that only to scramble to go F2P. Had they built TESO from the ground up as a F2P game, it could have easily set the benchmark for the F2P MMO market. Instead, like everyone else, they're going to nosedive and have to scramble to launch their F2P/Premium model.
Off topic but relevant: As for the "2 mini-expansions and 2 more coming this year", I'm sorry but the only one worth a shit was Rise of the Hutt Cartel because it at least added enough to be legitimately called an expansion. Galactic Starfighter is niche, at best, and doesn't really do much for the longevity of the game. Tne next "mini-expansion" they announced is player housing and guild fleets - again, no major additions to the core gameplay, just cosmetic stuff. The roadmap they laid out for this year is pretty sparse. A few additions for PVP,a new difficulty level and tier of gear for an existing operation, two new flashpoints on Tython/Korriban... But there's no plans for expanding class stories, no plans to add more planets, no plans to increase level cap.
They're coasting and raking in cash. I certainly don't blame them.
NeoGarrison
Banned
I sometimes wonder what in the world is it that's gonna make people happy. If they put in a sub it's: I ain't gonna pay no sub.
If it's f2p then it's: But transactions break the immersion!
I have no problems with a sub myself, the best mmo I ever played had one. It's the best option. A game needs to have a robust endgame for that Imo. If you enjoy the gameplay and that's the only game your going to play then what's the issue?
If it's f2p then it's: But transactions break the immersion!
I have no problems with a sub myself, the best mmo I ever played had one. It's the best option. A game needs to have a robust endgame for that Imo. If you enjoy the gameplay and that's the only game your going to play then what's the issue?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
People don't stick around because of the Cartel Market. They've added a lot of new content and that's why people keep playing. The Cartel Market does give them cash to keep their staff in order to create new content but it's not the shop itself that people play for.
Also, the roadmap for the year only included stuff they could confirm which was basically the next patch. MMO devs knows you can't saying such and such is coming because if it changes or get scrapped they get vilified and called liars so they only reveal details for stuff that is almost ready and everything else is vague. Considering they said the other expansion will be similar in scope to Makeb we can pretty much assume a new planet and likely another level cap increase. They've given their reasons for no new class stories, creating 8 stories when the vast majority won't see more than a few of them is a waste of time and resources, better to build tighter stories that everyone will experience while giving it some class specific flavour.
Anyway, I'll get back on topic now.
SW:TOR tanked in the first year because it was a terrible game. If SW:TOR had launched with a Free to play/Freemium payment model it would have still tanked.
There are quite a few factors that go into MMOs being forced to abandon a subscription model and going Free to play so saying that the subscription is solely to blame is ridiculous.
FF14ARR is having no problem retain subscribers because it is a good game and they have constantly updated the game with good content.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
How much did this game cost to make? KotOR 3 range? More?
dripdripsplash
Member
So I'm not actually interested in the game I'm just interested in that lockpick.gif you have in the OT.
Not the ESO gameplay part but the last part with that black man looking up in the sky.
What's the source for that ?
Not the ESO gameplay part but the last part with that black man looking up in the sky.
What's the source for that ?