The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim PC Performance discussion
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LiquidMetal14
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iBlurDeferredShadowMask=1
fInteriorShadowDistance=8000.0000
fShadowDistance=5000.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=4096
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=4096
iShadowSplitCount=2
fInteriorShadowDistance=4000.0000
and same settings as first shot.
fInteriorShadowDistance=1000.0000
and same settings again.
Don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for as all of them looked the same and ran the same, 60fps.
I still get this odd low FR when exiting the bar in that little town near these pics (Heroin or something like that lol). No difference interior wise, just gonna stick with that 1000 for now then and 5000 for regular shadowdistance.
fInteriorShadowDistance=8000.0000
fShadowDistance=5000.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=4096
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=4096
iShadowSplitCount=2
fInteriorShadowDistance=4000.0000
and same settings as first shot.
fInteriorShadowDistance=1000.0000
and same settings again.
Don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for as all of them looked the same and ran the same, 60fps.
I still get this odd low FR when exiting the bar in that little town near these pics (Heroin or something like that lol). No difference interior wise, just gonna stick with that 1000 for now then and 5000 for regular shadowdistance.
Sutton Dagger
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Durante said:
So I did your paging file guide and made sure I restarted. Now this isn't a factual claim but before I changed the paging file I quickly tested the fps in Riverwood, I was getting min 40 max 56. After the paging file thing I'm getting min 45 max 60... I'm pretty sure it gave me a slight fps boost. Cheers.
Man, what kind of asshole company releases a single-threaded PC game these days? I'm glad that I have a fast CPU but what the hell. This game should be getting much better performance on slower machines.
Is this something that ever gets improved in a patch? I'm pretty sure that Valve added multi-threading to a few of their HL2-era games.
edit: Saw the post below mine. Nevermind. I haven't tried disabling cores or anything, I just know that we should be getting better performance for a game that's designed to run on six year old hardware.
Is this something that ever gets improved in a patch? I'm pretty sure that Valve added multi-threading to a few of their HL2-era games.
edit: Saw the post below mine. Nevermind. I haven't tried disabling cores or anything, I just know that we should be getting better performance for a game that's designed to run on six year old hardware.
LiquidMetal14
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4096, yea, interiors are no worry, outside when there tons of trees its there. 1 more comparison coming just to see if I'm just seeing things.KKRT00 said:
MisterAnderson
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How do I set the Steam launch properties to go to TESV.exe to skip the launcher?
Also, I tried setting my shadow distance to 400 to see the super sharp shadows that I saw in the OP, but nothing changes...same pixelated garbage shadows.
Also, I tried setting my shadow distance to 400 to see the super sharp shadows that I saw in the OP, but nothing changes...same pixelated garbage shadows.
TheOctagon
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The only thing the textures in Bleak Falls should be smeared across is toilet paper.
luca_29_bg
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guys i'm playing with a 40' lcd at 1360x768, there's a bigger fonts mod for subtitles ? Somebody know something about this ?
LiquidMetal14
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I tired that and then removed the info from the OP. I don't know how but it was suggested to me from the beth forums before I got the game.MisterAnderson said:
I did the same and I noticed a change. Odd. Game seems almost too loud now hahahScythian said:
BoobPhysics101
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Durante said:
Will not make a difference. Disabling your page file is NOT a good idea. Set it to 768MB or so.
MisterAnderson
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Truant said:
Wouldn't Steam achievements be disabled?
Edit: I keep messing around with the shadow settings as I read about what you guys are changing. No matter what I do they always looks the same: super pixelated, and every 15 seconds or so the pixelation does this really ugly "refresh" where it shimmers for a couple of seconds. It's really distracting. I just want some sharp shadows.
LiquidMetal14
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Yes, but hey, be a man hahaha. Try it out though because I've ran a few tests out that way too. Steam won't be counting your playtime eitherMisterAnderson said:
I edited that in as an alternative.
In documents/mygames/skyrim/skyrimprefs you tried this?MisterAnderson said:Edit: I keep messing around with the shadow settings as I read about what you guys are changing. No matter what I do they always looks the same: super pixelated, and every 15 seconds or so the pixelation does this really ugly "refresh" where it shimmers for a couple of seconds. It's really distracting. I just want some sharp shadows.
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=1
fInteriorShadowDistance=1000.0000
fShadowDistance=5000.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=4096
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=4096
iShadowSplitCount=2
Or just these 3 edits?
fShadowDistance=400.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=8192
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=8192
BoobPhysics101
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Durante said:
That does not mean the game is CPU limited. CPU limited means that the game fully utilizes your CPU and you need a faster one. What you mean to say is that it's poorly coded, and is so inefficient with the CPU that it can't fully take advantage of its power.
Which doesn't make sense considering it should be optimized for 360/PS3, which have CPU's that are very good at multithreading... Perhaps BethSoft just sucks at coding for performance. Even Morrowind can still run like a dog on modern hardware once modded if I remember correctly.
Just change to those:MisterAnderson said:Wouldn't Steam achievements be disabled?
Edit: I keep messing around with the shadow settings as I read about what you guys are changing. No matter what I do they always looks the same: super pixelated, and every 15 seconds or so the pixelation does this really ugly "refresh" where it shimmers for a couple of seconds. It's really distracting. I just want some sharp shadows.
iShadowMapResolution=4096
fShadowDistance=2500.0000
iShadowFilter=3
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3
fShadowBiasScale=0.1500
MisterAnderson
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LiquidMetal14 said:Yes, but hey, be a man hahaha. Try it out though because I've ran a few tests out that way too. Steam won't be counting your playtime either
I edited that in as an alternative.
In documents/mygames/skyrim/skyrimprefs you tried this?
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=1
fInteriorShadowDistance=1000.0000
fShadowDistance=5000.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=4096
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=4096
iShadowSplitCount=2
Or just these 3 edits?
fShadowDistance=400.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=8192
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=8192
Tried the first one just now and it looks the same:
Trying the second 3 edits now.
Betta Lines
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Why do the shadows have that weird refresh anyway? I thought most games with a time of day transition just have a constantly moving shadow?
LiquidMetal14
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It's very weird, like a grid system.Pazuzu9 said:
MisterAnderson
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It just occured to me that there's also a skyrimprefs.ini in my documents... I've been messing with the one in the steamapps folder. Do I need to be making edits to both?
LiquidMetal14
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MrAnderson
BlurDeferredShadowMask=1
fInteriorShadowDistance=1000.0000
fShadowDistance=4000.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=8192
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=8192
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=1
fInteriorShadowDistance=1000.0000
fShadowDistance=400.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=8192
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=8192
The trade off here is that the shadows are rendered less further with it only at 400 but it seems to be sharper. So it seems like when you turn up the distance, shadows degrade? Not sure but compare for youself.
And KRT00, the shadows res definitely made a difference for me. Shadows looked blocky even at 4096 on both primary and secondary for me.
BlurDeferredShadowMask=1
fInteriorShadowDistance=1000.0000
fShadowDistance=4000.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=8192
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=8192
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=1
fInteriorShadowDistance=1000.0000
fShadowDistance=400.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=8192
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=8192
The trade off here is that the shadows are rendered less further with it only at 400 but it seems to be sharper. So it seems like when you turn up the distance, shadows degrade? Not sure but compare for youself.
And KRT00, the shadows res definitely made a difference for me. Shadows looked blocky even at 4096 on both primary and secondary for me.
the shadow distance change works for me. The trade off is slightly more pop in at longer distances. I have Interior at 1500 and exterior at 2000. Seems like a good enough balance. I still get a little shimmering and a little pop-in outside, but the shadows aren't "dancing" like before.
Edit: in SkyrimPrefs.ini (My documents>My Games>Skyrim)
fInteriorShadowDistance=1500.0000
fShadowDistance=2000.0000
I personally don't think anything else needs changing. just find the distance/pop-in balance that you're comfortable with. smaller number=higher res at close range, but no shadows at distances, meaning you get more pop-in as you move.
Edit: in SkyrimPrefs.ini (My documents>My Games>Skyrim)
fInteriorShadowDistance=1500.0000
fShadowDistance=2000.0000
I personally don't think anything else needs changing. just find the distance/pop-in balance that you're comfortable with. smaller number=higher res at close range, but no shadows at distances, meaning you get more pop-in as you move.
Pixel Pete
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wow that ugrids stuff looks pretty amazing. Not that I'm complaining without it...
If I had a 64bit system I'd be all over it.
If I had a 64bit system I'd be all over it.
LiquidMetal14
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skyrimprefs in my documents/SkyrimCorky said:
Very interesting findings here with the sharpness in detail. Like I said before, the less it renders the sharper they get. And as I said before, the primary and secondary res did make a difference for me just going up from 4096 to 8192
Again on the comparison, the render radius/circle is so small for shadow rendering that if you look at the second shot that I took, the NPC's feet aren't even shaded anymore! And you can see the circle around you as you are running.
BoobPhysics101
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Corky said:
Try throwing them into Skyrim.ini under the appropriate headings.
Betta Lines
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Hmm. I guess they made the shadows move every few seconds rather than constantly to stop it permanently shimmering.
LiquidMetal14
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Just copy this into your entire SkyrimPrefs in mydocuments/Skyrim. Delete your own and copy, I mean.Corky said:
Code:
[General]
fBrightLightColorB=1.0000
fBrightLightColorG=1.0000
fBrightLightColorR=1.0000
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
[Imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
iRadialBlurLevel=2
[Display]
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=1
fInteriorShadowDistance=1000.0000
fShadowDistance=4000.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=8192
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=8192
iShadowSplitCount=2
iMaxAnisotropy=16
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=10000000.0000
fGamma=0.9600
fDecalLOD2=1500.0000
fDecalLOD1=1000.0000
fSpecularLODStartFade=2000.0000
fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000
fLightLODStartFade=3500.0000
iTexMipMapMinimum=0
iTexMipMapSkip=0
iWaterMultiSamples=0
iMultiSample=4
iShadowMode=3
bTreesReceiveShadows=0
bDrawLandShadows=0
bFull Screen=1
iSize H=768
iSize W=1360
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000
iScreenShotIndex=2
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
bMainZPrepass=0
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100
bFloatPointRenderTarget=0
sD3DDevice="AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series"
bFXAAEnabled=0
iShadowMapResolution=4096
fShadowBiasScale=0.1500
iShadowMaskQuarter=4
iAdapter=0
iPresentInterval=1
iShadowFilter=3
bTransparencyMultisampling=0
bDrawShadows=1
[Grass]
b30GrassVS=1
fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000
[MAIN]
bGamepadEnable=1
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.0000
bSaveOnPause=1
bSaveOnTravel=1
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1
fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000
[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=2
[Interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=1
bGeneralSubtitles=1
bShowCompass=1
[Controls]
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.2400
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=1
bMouseAcceleration=1
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[SaveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=0
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=0
fVal4=1.0000
uID4=0
fVal3=0.3000
uID3=94881
fVal2=0.8000
uID2=466532
fVal1=1.0000
uID1=554685
fVal0=0.8000
uID0=1007612
[Clouds]
fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000
fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000
fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000
fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000
[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=75000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=250000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=70000.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=35000.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000
bShowLODInEditor=0
[NavMesh]
fObstacleAlpha=0.5000
fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000
fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500
fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000
fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500
fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000
fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000
fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500
fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000
fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000
fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000
fEdgeThickness=10.0000
fPointSize=2.5000
[Trees]
bRenderSkinnedTrees=1
uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20
[Decals]
uMaxDecals=1000
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
uMaxSkinDecals=100
uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=60
[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultActors=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000
[Launcher]
bEnableFileSelection=1
bShowAllResolutions=1
uLastAspectRatio=3
[BlurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=1
[BlurShader]
bUseBlurShader=0
[Water]
iWaterReflectHeight=512
iWaterReflectWidth=512
bUseWaterDisplacements=1
bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
bUseWaterDepth=1PLEASE BACKUP YOUR ORIGINAL INI THOUGH!
MickeyKnox
Member
Sorry about the MIA, went surfing today here's all my shadow related SkyrimPrefs.ini values.
Code:
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3
fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=8000.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=8192
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=8192
iShadowSplitCount=2
fShadowLODStartFade=600.0000
iShadowMode=4
bTreesReceiveShadows=1
bDrawLandShadows=1
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
iShadowMapResolution=8192
fShadowBiasScale=0.1500
iShadowMaskQuarter=4
iShadowFilter=4
bDrawShadows=1LiquidMetal14
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What's your HW setup? Gotta have these details to compare.MickeyKnox said:
MisterAnderson
Member
So this whole time I've been editing my ini file in Steam instead of My Documents so I figured that is what I was doing wrong. I just made the edits to the ini file in My Documents and the shadows STILL look like that pic I posted a few posts up...
Yes it matter, but for not those Primary and Secondary.LiquidMetal14 said:
Look quality increases with iShadowMapResolution and other settings doesnt matter.
fShadowDistance=2500.0000
iShadowMapResolution=512
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=512
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=4096
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fShadowDistance=2500.0000
iShadowMapResolution=8196
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=8196
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
==========
fShadowDistance=2500.0000
iShadowMapResolution=8196
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=8196
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=1024
LiquidMetal14
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Good finds. You need to type me up a consolidated write up with your HW config so I can add that to the OP. I'm gonna try it with some of the settings Mickey posted as I had not edited those.
Yea, sharper distant shadows but lower FR. 10fps loss in the same area I was just in.
Yea, sharper distant shadows but lower FR. 10fps loss in the same area I was just in.
LiquidMetal14 said:
Correct. As I understand it, with higher values you're asking the game to stretch the shadow maps over a larger area. That's why, by default, the exterior value is higher and the interior value lower: the former is to avoid shadow fade-in that would be particularly obvious when traversing the huge overworld, however this comes at the cost of resolution; conversely, the far smaller areas pertinent to the latter are apposite to its lower value, thus resulting in better shadow definition.
LiquidMetal14
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Try using Mickey's settings. I got even sharper shadows but with a FR loss though. A few posts up.
Just change those Corky:
iShadowMapResolution=4096
fShadowDistance=2500.0000
iShadowFilter=3
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3
fShadowBiasScale=0.1500
Ps. Guys i dont know how You guys can set 8192 shadows, it so kills my performance indoors. Anyone uses OGSSAA and tried settings 8192 shadows? Whats You framerate in interiors?
iShadowMapResolution=4096
fShadowDistance=2500.0000
iShadowFilter=3
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3
fShadowBiasScale=0.1500
Ps. Guys i dont know how You guys can set 8192 shadows, it so kills my performance indoors. Anyone uses OGSSAA and tried settings 8192 shadows? Whats You framerate in interiors?
Betta Lines
Member
So basically, there's no way of getting good shadow resolution and good shadow draw distance, you have to pick one or the other?
LiquidMetal14
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Yes, I've noted that in my settings in the OP. It seems like even the primary and secondary don't make much of a difference unless you change the LOD distance too as in Mickeyknox's settings a few posts up. Frame rate suffers though as you are asking the game to do more.Pazuzu9 said: