arrow s5 is solid but not worth the time investment of s3 and s4
i think i'm gonna cut my losses on nearly all of the cw dc shows. legends still has my attention for another season.
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The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.
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arrow s5 is solid but not worth the time investment of s3 and s4
i think i'm gonna cut my losses on nearly all of the cw dc shows. legends still has my attention for another season.
If they tell people 22 hours of their lives don't matter, they might as well fake their deaths and move to another country
The problem with Flash is they leaned into concepts that were built over a decade of story telling way to hard and fast. Without doing what comic writers did, balance it with character growth. If you go back and read the runs that laid down the speed force you will see yes they get crazy with pseudo science bullshit, but that is such a small part of it. You got wally becoming a grown ass man, his relationship with Linda blossoming, building a relationship with Jay, Bart, and the extended flash family.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
People, if you're gonna post your dumb shit then make sure it is in green or red Times New Roman over a screenshot of a show you think you're smarter than.
I would like this.
So if I'm a writer on this show I roll with the Rebirth storyline.
I start by having Wally healed for the finale. Barry is despondent and falling into that dark path. Wally decides that he's not letting it happen and HE enters the speedforce to try to reset everything.
At that point in the episode, I'd have shown Killer Frost wrecking Cisco's hands as well. Barry is despondent. But once Wally goes in, he starts to see things reset. Iris is alive. Cisco gets his hands back, Caitlyn stops being Killer Frost, etc.
Episode ends with Barry, snapping to it, saying, "Where's Wally?"
Joe: "Who's Wally?"
Fast forward to S4. First episode is Wally trying to escape from the Speedforce. Jay sees him and doesn't know him or how to help. He reaches out to the Legends who don't remember him. Cisco doesn't remember him. Arrow/Felicity sense a presence in the cave and nothing. (They can even see a smiley face pin on the floor afterwards if CW will be allowed to roll with Watchmen characters, which I doubt.)
Episode ends with him trying to reach out to Barry, who at this point is convinced by everyone else that there never was a Wally. Just like the comic.
But then he remembers. BOOM. Pulls Wally out and we have Wally back.
End of season 4 premier
That way you can easily pull in Godspeed as one of your big bads for next season. However, you can also have that revealed later on, after they take down Abra Cadabra or something at midseason.
Barry can be trying to open up Star Labs as a place for other speedsters who have popped up. These people can keep disappearing, some dying. Nobody sure why but they're convinced it's Abra Cadabra. Then they finally stop him, only to find out that Cadabra knew absolutely nothing about the missing speedsters. You get the whole fear between Barry and Wally that maybe they didn't kill Savitar, only to realize that it was someone far far worse.
I dunno. It'd be better than this season I think lol
I start by having Wally healed for the finale. Barry is despondent and falling into that dark path. Wally decides that he's not letting it happen and HE enters the speedforce to try to reset everything.
At that point in the episode, I'd have shown Killer Frost wrecking Cisco's hands as well. Barry is despondent. But once Wally goes in, he starts to see things reset. Iris is alive. Cisco gets his hands back, Caitlyn stops being Killer Frost, etc.
Episode ends with Barry, snapping to it, saying, "Where's Wally?"
Joe: "Who's Wally?"
Fast forward to S4. First episode is Wally trying to escape from the Speedforce. Jay sees him and doesn't know him or how to help. He reaches out to the Legends who don't remember him. Cisco doesn't remember him. Arrow/Felicity sense a presence in the cave and nothing. (They can even see a smiley face pin on the floor afterwards if CW will be allowed to roll with Watchmen characters, which I doubt.)
Episode ends with him trying to reach out to Barry, who at this point is convinced by everyone else that there never was a Wally. Just like the comic.
But then he remembers. BOOM. Pulls Wally out and we have Wally back.
End of season 4 premier
That way you can easily pull in Godspeed as one of your big bads for next season. However, you can also have that revealed later on, after they take down Abra Cadabra or something at midseason.
Barry can be trying to open up Star Labs as a place for other speedsters who have popped up. These people can keep disappearing, some dying. Nobody sure why but they're convinced it's Abra Cadabra. Then they finally stop him, only to find out that Cadabra knew absolutely nothing about the missing speedsters. You get the whole fear between Barry and Wally that maybe they didn't kill Savitar, only to realize that it was someone far far worse.
I dunno. It'd be better than this season I think lol
BLOODED_hands
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Frank the Great
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The One and Done;237603735 said:
came here​ to make this exact post but you beat me to it
You lost me at new speedster villain. You REALLY lost me at a ton of new speedsters.
The show needs to lay off of speedsters for a few seasons.
Godspeed would be pretty cool eventually, but only as part of a small arc that DID NOT have him as the main villain.
I know this is a bit of a meme, but I REALLY like the idea of the speed force essentially being a massive paradox engine.
Except when you need to ensure a timeloop and stuff happens to your past self then it does
seems like all the real rules still apply unless you want to stop your idiot past self from offing himself
Have you seen the current Arrow thread?
Exactly. One of the biggest criticisms they need to address is the fact that the past 2 seasons were, more or less, a retread of season 1. The easiest way to fix that is to not have a speedsters as the big bad.
Stallion Dan
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Someone else explain the Savitar loop to me.
Barry fights Savitar in future, traps him in speedforce, but not before speed clone Barry is made and abused by Savitar.
Savitar who was trapped is let loose from speedforce trap in the past by Wally.
Where the hell does speed clone Barry/Savitar fit into this?
Alternatively, in the future speed clone Barry becomes the Savitar that is trapped/let out in the past, in which case where is the Savitar that created him?
Barry fights Savitar in future, traps him in speedforce, but not before speed clone Barry is made and abused by Savitar.
Savitar who was trapped is let loose from speedforce trap in the past by Wally.
Where the hell does speed clone Barry/Savitar fit into this?
Alternatively, in the future speed clone Barry becomes the Savitar that is trapped/let out in the past, in which case where is the Savitar that created him?
You can NEVER have enough Speedsters!
Eh you're right. They can't even manage the ones they have as it is.
So who do they use for a new villain next season? Grodd maybe? Logically it'd be cool but I'm not sure if they can afford Grodd for 15 episodes.
time remnant wasn't abused after savitar was trapped the team "shunned him cuasing him to go crazy and decide god feels no pain and went back in past to be the "first" speedster and god becoming someone else something else
I pop in on occasion. But the second there was a less than great episode the worst of the worst returned to continue their creepy hatred of Felicity.
LOT S3 thread is already on my ignore list. It's not the shows, it's the threads.
Not sure about gaf but god reddit thread are obnoxious with that am not even a fan of felicity. Flash is shit too for different reasons
Stallion Dan
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This doesn't answer my question.
OdysseusVA
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Hi,
Just dropping by to remind everyone I dislike these threads. I'll be back next week to remind everyone again.
Just dropping by to remind everyone I dislike these threads. I'll be back next week to remind everyone again.
Don't steal my gimmick, you poser.
found some timline on reddit
Yeah I still can't get behind this.
There is a reason for it: we can't make sense of it anymore than you.
BLOODED_hands
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BLOODED_hands
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I do find it funny how Wally (and sometimes the rest of Team Flash) try to explain Speed Force shenanigans now. Shit makes me laugh lol.
HoopzBarkley
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Hopefully Wally is still Kid Flash in season 4, I found it messed up Ollie had like 3 sidekicks and a whole team of vigilantes but Barry was mostly alone in season 1 and 2, I also hope Cisco does more hero stuff in public too. You guys think we will get another Reverse Flash appearence in season 4? I mean at this point they dont even have to explain how hes back lol.
I suspect they'll retire him for a few seasons. Too much of a good thing and all.
Stallion Dan
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Well it's a good effort, but time remnants were after Iris death according to future Barry, so it doesn't work. Also surely Barry would realise Savitar change, or notice 2 of them exist?found some timline on reddit
Honestly, I don't even know. All I know is that it's going on for an eternity.
Whatever happened to all of these synopses? I miss them. Are there any for S3?
Reptars Revenge
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The future flash team is really dumb if you stop and think about it,
And what about Reverse Flash, he didn't get stranded after flashpoint and went on the Legends show so who now teaches Barry on the timeline. I guess since hes a super anomaly ill let it side.
I try not to
OdysseusVA
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Lord Frieza
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I'm sure this probably sums up the whole thing about Savitar and the time paradoxes best
Lol, I mean, everyone here knows this shit stopped making any sense whatsoever when they revealed who Savitar was, so I don't even know why we're trying to figure out. I doubt the writers even care at this point.
Lol, I mean, everyone here knows this shit stopped making any sense whatsoever when they revealed who Savitar was, so I don't even know why we're trying to figure out. I doubt the writers even care at this point.
BLOODED_hands
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Season 3 isn't worth it. It was a mistake *insert Miyazaki gif*
Season Finale day!
Gonna start with a little bit of news, Aaron Helbing (a writer of tonight's episode) is leaving his position as co-showrunner and will not be with the show next season. His brother will remain with the show. Also yes there's an official S4 synopsis, but I wouldn't read too much into it.
#3.23 "Finish Line"
Episode Promo
Gonna start with a little bit of news, Aaron Helbing (a writer of tonight's episode) is leaving his position as co-showrunner and will not be with the show next season. His brother will remain with the show. Also yes there's an official S4 synopsis, but I wouldn't read too much into it.
#3.23 "Finish Line"
Episode Promo
BLOODED_hands
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Those spoilers got me like
Yes and no. At one point there will be two, namely the one that is Savitar and the one that is destined to become Savitar will be fighting.