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THE FREEPER LOVE FORTNIGHT: Mod Amnesty For Right-Wing Posters

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In the interest of kicking GAF off its collective librul nanny-state butt and bringing a little adventure to the doldrums of Mandark's socialist ennui, I, as the foremost Asshole Mod of GAF, am extending an amnesty period to the far right kooks we KNOW are lurking out there.

I heretofore declare the following two weeks THE FREEPER LOVE FORTNIGHT, whereby any and all angry tax-loathing, dollar-worshipping, gun-slinging, ZOG-fearing closet homosexuals can post their finest vitriol in ANY thread, original or librul-spawned. Slander Michael Moore (hint: he's fat!); suggest prominent posters wed Osama bin Laden (hint: but only in Vermont!); volubly gloat over the recent Presidential victory (hint: mandate!); actively campaign for a ruling class of wealthy elites; hell, go the whole nine yards and suggest that poor people should not only be sterilized but rendered into environmentally-unfriendly carcinogens to inject into the thin, watery bloodstream of every pantywaist socialist infecting your beloved country.

Two caveats:

1. No race or gender baiting. You can post from your precious Bell Curve, but the moment the racism gets REALLY nasty, AMNESTY OVER.

2. No direct copy-and-paste from the following Republitard monkey scrawls: Instapundit.com, Little Green Footballs, or the Free Republic forums. Alright, I'll let the latter slide: that sort of insanity works better verbatim.

Get yer war on!
 

Mandark

Small balls, big fun!
You know what I'd really love to read? A post in favor of Bush's Social Security plans, or other changes to the system from a conservative/libertarian perspective. Iceman, you there?
 
Is this like the typical leftist peace agreement in which we are so generously offered "peace" if we merely release terrorists from prison and stop defending ourselves while your paramilitary forces continue to attack us regardless of whatever cease-fire you claim to be enforcing?

;)
 

Tarazet

Member
Greenpanda said:
Is this like the typical leftist peace agreement in which we are so generously offered "peace" if we merely release terrorists from prison and stop defending ourselves while your paramilitary forces continue to attack us regardless of whatever cease-fire you claim to be enforcing?

;)

Don't be ungrateful - I don't have the right to defend my Furryism. Be happy for what you're being given. ;)
 

Alcibiades

Member
Mandark said:
You know what I'd really love to read? A post in favor of Bush's Social Security plans, or other changes to the system from a conservative/libertarian perspective. Iceman, you there?
everybody can throw out numbers and statistics, etc..., etc..., etc...

but the way I see it, you've got an example of government-paid caretaking in Europe and things aren't exactly pretty over there...

I don't see how putting 1% in a saving account would make that much of a difference anyway... they wouldn't let you put it in normal stocks anyway, but at worst, even if it comes out at no gain (with or without inflation factored in), there's still the other 99%. Doesn't seem like it would break that back of anything, and while it may mean big transition costs, in the end it will have helped take citizens a step away from governmetn reliance...

wouldn't there be a plan to keep thing 100% the same anyway, so it's basically about giving citizens options... isn't that what the US is about? choices, which equals freedom?
 

Socreges

Banned
Alcibiades said:
wouldn't there be a plan to keep thing 100% the same anyway, so it's basically about giving citizens options... isn't that what the US is about? choices, which equals freedom?
Oh God he pulled out the freedom card.

See, this is what happens when you give them free reign. I hope you know what you're doing.
 

Alcibiades

Member
Socreges said:
Oh God he pulled out the freedom card.

See, this is what happens when you give them free reign. I hope you know what you're doing.
we advocate less government reliance and more individual choices?
 
He's right, choice is what makes america grand. Like my choice to perform late-term, extra-gorey, partial birth abortions while burning the american flag. That's so unsanitary.
 

kumanoki

Member
Chesapeake Silt said:
He's right, choice is what makes america grand. Like my choice to perform late-term, extra-gorey, partial birth abortions while burning the american flag. That's so unsanitary.


Ooo, ooo....Or my choice to read textbooks that havent been sanitized for content. Or my choice to be patriotic yet not religious. Or my choice to use my veteran's pension. Or my choice to marry whomever I choose.

Lots of choices. :/
 

Alcibiades

Member
Chesapeake Silt said:
He's right, choice is what makes america grand. Like my choice to perform late-term, extra-gorey, partial birth abortions while burning the american flag. That's so unsanitary.
you don't have the choice to murder, COMPLETELY separate things...

one is an individual choice, the other choice involves a person and a fetus/cluster of cells/whatever you want to call it...
 
If you're going to allow Partial Birth Abortions, you might as well allow lethal injections immediately after birth. At least that is painless.
 

Alcibiades

Member
kumanoki said:
Ooo, ooo....Or my choice to read textbooks that havent been sanitized for content. Or my choice to be patriotic yet not religious. Or my choice to use my veteran's pension. Or my choice to marry whomever I choose.

Lots of choices. :/
-I don't know what textbooks you are talking about, but my pysch. textbooks are plenty explicit and I'm fine with that

-I'm not religious at all, heck I'm not terribly patriotic, but if someone wants to wrap themselves around the American flag, whether it be Michael Moore or Jon Stewart, I could care less...

-I also think the Veteran's care is a joke in this country, and there have been periods of rule by both parties where little was accomplished to help in those matters... that's one of the government cuts I DO NOT agree with...

-You can marry whomever you want. I support gay marriage, I even support polygamy (as long as it's not w/ little girls like that infamous case on TV)... I mean, if women want to marry into that I think that's dumb, but it's their choice as long as they aren't being coerced...
 

Alcibiades

Member
BobbyRobby said:
If you're going to allow Partial Birth Abortions, you might as well allow lethal injections immediately after birth. At least that is painless.
I don't support abortion, nor do I support the death penalty...
 

Alcibiades

Member
Chesapeake Silt said:
But we're cool on the flag burning shit, right?
as long as it's your flag, sure...

I wouldn't do it, but I'm not going to stop someone else's individual decision...
 

Socreges

Banned
Alcibiades said:
we advocate less government reliance and more individual choices?
Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of you channeling the familiar idiosyncratic rhetoric.

But sure, choices! Freedom! USA! USA!
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Alcibiades said:
-I don't know what textbooks you are talking about, but my pysch. textbooks are plenty explicit and I'm fine with that

-I'm not religious at all, heck I'm not terribly patriotic, but if someone wants to wrap themselves around the American flag, whether it be Michael Moore or Jon Stewart, I could care less...

-I also think the Veteran's care is a joke in this country, and there have been periods of rule by both parties where little was accomplished to help in those matters... that's one of the government cuts I DO NOT agree with...

-You can marry whomever you want. I support gay marriage, I even support polygamy (as long as it's not w/ little girls like that infamous case on TV)... I mean, if women want to marry into that I think that's dumb, but it's their choice as long as they aren't being coerced...
You support this and you think that. Well isn't that grand. Alcibiades for Congress.
 

lexi

Banned
This thead needs Bill Hicks quotes.

A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. Do you think when Jesus comes back he ever wants to see a fuckin' cross? It's kind of like going up to Jackie Onassis with a rifle pendant on."

Ever noticed that people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved?
 

Lil' Dice

Banned
I'm strongly against giving illegal aliens driver's licenses. I'm willing to pay more for tomatoes at the grocery store.
Hmmm, let's see; i believe we should cut all ties with Israel so as to appease the Muslim community.
I loathe people on the Atkins diet who refuse to excercise.
I believe parents who put their children on anti-depressants and ADD medications should be jailed.
Gays are funy, like Jerry Lewis.
 
I can't tell which party Lil Dice is trying to mock =\

Or maybe it's just general misanthropy and cynicism, in which case I heartily approve! ;)
 

Mandark

Small balls, big fun!
efralope said:
everybody can throw out numbers and statistics, etc..., etc..., etc...
Yes, but you look silly if you use made-up numbers, like...
I don't see how putting 1% in a saving account would make that much of a difference anyway... they wouldn't let you put it in normal stocks anyway, but at worst, even if it comes out at no gain (with or without inflation factored in), there's still the other 99%.
They're talking four percentage points, not one. Not 4% of your FICA taxes, mind you, but 4% of your taxable wages. Out of the 12.4% that goes to SS. That means they'd divert almost one third of the money. 32% is, in most cases, not 1%.

Doesn't seem like it would break that back of anything, and while it may mean big transition costs, in the end it will have helped take citizens a step away from governmetn reliance...
Revenues would be cut by about one-third. If you didn't cut guaranteed benefits, except for people who had a chance to offset it by investing in private accounts, you'd have to wait 50 to 60 years before benefits would be cut by that much. So you have to borrow money to make up for decades worth of very significant shortfalls. For SS, this tranisitional cost runs into several trillions of dollars. That is a huge amount to add to an already indebted federal government.
but the way I see it, you've got an example of government-paid caretaking in Europe and things aren't exactly pretty over there...
Are you familiar with Britain's privatization of their version of social security?

wouldn't there be a plan to keep thing 100% the same anyway, so it's basically about giving citizens options... isn't that what the US is about? choices, which equals freedom?
The government would still be taking the same amount of money, forcing you to invest it, severely restricting what investments you could make, not letting you touch it for decades, and then deciding how much of it you get each year even after you retire. I doubt this would make me feel significantly more American than I do now.


I suggest you take a crash test in social security. You could really use it.
 
Alcibiades said:
you don't have the choice to murder, COMPLETELY separate things...

one is an individual choice, the other choice involves a person and a fetus/cluster of cells/whatever you want to call it...

What if someone chooses to murder someone else?
 
Alcibiades said:
everybody can throw out numbers and statistics, etc..., etc..., etc...

but the way I see it, you've got an example of government-paid caretaking in Europe and things aren't exactly pretty over there...

I don't see how putting 1% in a saving account would make that much of a difference anyway... they wouldn't let you put it in normal stocks anyway, but at worst, even if it comes out at no gain (with or without inflation factored in), there's still the other 99%. Doesn't seem like it would break that back of anything, and while it may mean big transition costs, in the end it will have helped take citizens a step away from governmetn reliance...

wouldn't there be a plan to keep thing 100% the same anyway, so it's basically about giving citizens options... isn't that what the US is about? choices, which equals freedom?

except it's four percent and not one. and that's one whole third out of the 12.4 percent of the taxable wages. not to mention the fact that of the guaranteed benefits, the cuts go as deep as 50%.
edit: i see someone already explained this better than i did. if you'll excuse me, i'm going to search for porn movies of bukkake girls wiping themselves with the american flag while men in the background smoke leaglized marijuana.
 

AntoneM

Member
Bush is a Pussy! ... I mean Kerry is, but wait what I actually meant to say is that no one even likes libruls, I mean seriously. Don't you just hate when they talk like they think they know what they're talking about? I saw a librul recently so I threw a snowball at him (I'm pretty sure he was gay).

--edit--
and with that I take a political hiatus in honor of this monumentous event
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Alcibiades said:
we advocate less government reliance and more individual choices?
Less government reliance is often a code phrase for increasing reliance on other bodies, such as conglomerates or church clergy, who are the individuals making the choices :p
 
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Deleted member 4784

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BobbyRobby said:
If you're going to allow Partial Birth Abortions, you might as well allow lethal injections immediately after birth. At least that is painless.

Not that I disagree, but partial birth abortion is now illegal.
 
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Deleted member 4784

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I dunno if this is on theme with this topic or not. If not, sorrie about that and I guess a mod will delete it? =x

Those who proclaim Communism could be a reality today if we were to give it a chance are ignorant of the principles of sociology, for one. Let's assume for a minute that by some miracle that is outside the realm of possibility, a Communist way of life was put into place with absolutely no governing body, and "the people" ran everything.

Not everyone is as good a speaker as the next person, so you would inevitably have cliques of people hording around a select other group of people to have their views heard. Representatives. Then there would be order because nobody could ever fully agree on anything, or if they did, you would have the oppression or seclusion of some other group.. so eventually, some sort of counsel or governing body would be made to make decisions regarding the community. Then there would also be those who would slack off during work, would not go to work, would steal or commit crimes.. so you'd have to form some sort of militia or security control, an authoritative body. But then if you create a penalty system, you will need to create a judicial system to go along with it to prevent people from being made victim to false accusations and/or punished wrongly. And so on…

No matter what you start with, in the end people are going to seek order to a system of total anarchy and either appoint their own leaders, or in the end individual people will seize power.
 

Socreges

Banned
Waychel said:
I dunno if this is on theme with this topic or not. If not, sorrie about that and I guess a mod will delete it? =x

Those who proclaim Communism could be a reality today if we were to give it a chance are ignorant of the principles of sociology, for one. Let's assume for a minute that by some miracle that is outside the realm of possibility, a Communist way of life was put into place with absolutely no governing body, and "the people" ran everything.

Not everyone is as good a speaker as the next person, so you would inevitably have cliques of people hording around a select other group of people to have their views heard. Representatives. Then there would be order because nobody could ever fully agree on anything, or if they did, you would have the oppression or seclusion of some other group.. so eventually, some sort of counsel or governing body would be made to make decisions regarding the community. Then there would also be those who would slack off during work, would not go to work, would steal or commit crimes.. so you'd have to form some sort of militia or security control, an authoritative body. But then if you create a penalty system, you will need to create a judicial system to go along with it to prevent people from being made victim to false accusations and/or punished wrongly. And so on…

No matter what you start with, in the end people are going to seek order to a system of total anarchy and either appoint their own leaders, or in the end individual people will seize power.
Could you link me to something more official (and with more breadth)? Or at least give me an idea of what to search for?

Not that I don't believe you, or disagree, but that I'd like to send it to some classmates of mine.


Oh, and btw... recent reports of rape, torture, homocide in Afghanistan, cover-ups in Iraq, etc etc blah blah blah...
 
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Deleted member 4784

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Socreges said:
Could you link me to something more official (and with more breadth)? Or at least give me an idea of what to search for?

Not that I don't believe you, or disagree, but that I'd like to send it to some classmates of mine.


Oh, and btw... recent reports of rape, torture, homocide in Afghanistan, cover-ups in Iraq, etc etc blah blah blah...

I'm confused by what you are asking me for...?

Anyways, I'm just basing my reasoning here on sociology. History itself has also shown that human beings do not go from order to disorder. If anything, history has proven that humans have learned, through trial and error, better ways by which to regulate the workings and powers of government to operate as they invision to their own increased benefit, safety and equality. Equality does not come from eliminating government because you will then have anarchy, which eventually results in the people coming to order over a dictatorship. If you're looking for greater "breadth" regarding this, I would recommend looking into the published works of John Locke. If you're looking for something official, then take a look at the progression of western society from the 14th century until now.
 

Iceman

Member
Uh.. liberals are ignorant socialists who secretly fear that they will be nothing but failures for the rest of their lives and must therefore force the burden of their own existence on the rest of the world??

They also don't think the average individual can tie their own shoes let alone govern themselves and need a strong ruling elite to take all that dangerous money away from them lest they spend it all on McDonald's and choke themselves to death.

And, and... and Air America is short for Air Heads of America.

Zing.
 
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