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[doicare]

Can't say fairer than that.

 

[argon]

Props to NPD for taking a pragmatic and surprisingly generous approach. Hopefully they will keep their promise and actually provide the data on a regular basis.

The irony here is that since NeoGAF is a public board, we just became NPD's primary news outlet for sales numbers. Expect to see Gamespot et al sourcing us every month, since I don't think they ever got top 20 units (or they did and weren't allowed to publish them).

 

[GSG Flash]

That sounds like a pretty good deal to me, the NPD guys are a reasonable (and from the looks of it, not greedy at all) bunch

 

[Tieno]

That's really nice for NPD to meet GAF halfway. Cool of them! Appreciate it!

 

[FnordChan]

Thanks, NPD!

"No worries, GAF. I'm in your corner."

NPDChan

p.s. Kudos to the NeoGAF leadership for making this happen and thanks to NPD (with apologies to Rupert Walters for my abusing his smiling face) for working out the deal. Woo!

 

[Odysseus]

I said wow.

 

[dextran]

So what was the top 20 for November?

 

[Odysseus]

So what was the top 20 for November?

1 Viva Pinata
2 Viva Pinata
3 Viva Pinata
4 Viva Pinata
5 Gears of War
6 Viva Pinata
7 Viva Pinata
8 Final Fantasy XII
9 Viva Pinata
10 Viva Pinata
11 Viva Pinata
12 Zelda
13 Viva Pinata
14 Viva Pinata
15 Viva Pinata
16 Viva Pinata
17 Viva Pinata
18 Viva Pinata
19 Viva Pinata
20 Dead or Alive X 2

 

[Triumph]

Dammit, just when the gaming forum might have been threatening to become readable again for the first time in years.

*slouches back to OT*

 

[ZeoVGM]

a synopsis of the market, which includes the Top 20 with unit sales, install base LTD and monthly for each platform

That's -awesome-.

Seriously, that's great.

Don't suppose we can get that for November?

 

[GhaleonEB]

Dammit, just when the gaming forum might have been threatening to become readable again for the first time in years.

*slouches back to OT*

 

[jwj442]

Yeah, when will we get the November sales?

 

[Amir0x]

This was the "ray of hope" i was implying in the first NPD thread. It worked out quite nicely, I'd say

 

[rockman zx]

Unexpected move but pretty cool. Props to NPD .

 

[cvxfreak]

Wow... I really have to commend the NPD here.

 

[FateBreaker]

So now I have to bother NPD guys to give me Tales of the Abyss data? Nice

hey - they said a few requests! perfectly reasonable! ?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Wow. Great job, everyone.

NPD: Nice Polite Dudes

 

[MiamiWesker]

Wow. Great job, everyone.

NPD: Nice Polite Dudes

That made me chuckle.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

This will work out nicely up until they realize most people here act like a bunch of babies regarding numbers.

 

[Tiktaalik]

This is a great solution. Thanks you NPD for being generous guys.

The only other thing that could also be nice is if we could all vote on a list of our top 5 or top 10 obscure games that we want to know the numbers for, and then we could get the numbers for those games. This way we get the added feature of knowing how bad our favs bombed. It doesn't really even have to be exact numbers, just general < 100k etc.

I'm essentially just remembering the great thread caused by the low Yakuza and PSP numbers and wondering how we can still have that sort of thread.

 

[FateBreaker]

To be perfectly honest (and I'm not trying to start something here), I still find it odd NPD doesn't like borrowing their numbers. They have numbers. They sit there. They like to be in private. And only lists go out to people who pay ourageous amounts, and the top 20 occasionally goes out. Why not just go full out and promote your thing?

Anyway, this is a reasonable conclusion, though, and I'm delighted NPD aren't total dicks after all.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

What exactly does the NPD get out of this deal? It almost seems too good to be true.

 

[GhaleonEB]

What exactly does the NPD get out of this deal? It almost seems too good to be true.

1) GAF administration agrees to lock down on leaked NPD data.
2) NPD gets good publicity for handling the situation. Just look at the reactions in this thread.
3) By providing the essential information that GAF usually clamors for up front, and with an open dialogue to NPD thereafter, the demand for leaked data goes down. NPD's business model is more secure.

 

[bunkum]

Guess I'm not loved or wanted anymore

 

[MiamiWesker]

Guess I'm not loved or wanted anymore

We will always remember the work you did for us.

But I think its time for a name tag change...

 

[GhaleonEB]

Guess I'm not loved or wanted anymore

Your stock took a hit! Ban this filth!

Spoiler

j/k, you're still loved

 

[Branduil]

Wow, I wasn't expecting this. This is a very generous offer by NPD, very cool.

 

[meltpotato]

wow. not much to add to the discussion other than this is incredibly good-willed of them, coming from someone working with multiple paid reporting groups like NPD on a daily basis. I HIGHLY doubt most of them would provide such data to a group such as GAF. Hats off.

 

[duckroll]

I still find it odd NPD doesn't like borrowing their numbers.

And only lists go out to people who pay ourageous amounts

.............

:lol

 

[Meier]

Guess I'm not loved or wanted anymore

I still love you. So many fond memories.. *sniff sniff*

 

[GhaleonEB]

.............

:lol

holy damn....:lol

 

[psycho_snake]

Its a very good deal. Good work NPD.

 

[Zombie James]

So there you have it. Not a bad situation, eh?

Very nice

 

[jamesb23]

This doesn't surprise me at all. From my own dealings with NPD they really are a very friendly and cooperative group of people. They've always been very fair. Data is their business, so you can understand why they'd be touchy about it being leaked all over.

 

[krypt0nian]

Surprisingly reasonable.

Succinct and to the point. As well as exactly what I was going to post. It's great that they're willing to work with GAF.

 

[allan-bh]

If the NPD made this agreement, I believe that it would not be wrong somebody post november's top 20 software and also hardware numbers of XBOX and Gamecube, the only ones that we not yet had access.

And of course congratulations to NEO GAF for the agreement, and thanks to NPD for provide free information to us.

 

[Qtopia]

Awesome news...GAF comes through again!

 

[donny2112]

This will actually be more data than we got somtimes.

The last time we got this little data was in February and March of this year. We usually get a lot more. The good part about getting this data, though, is no fear of getting the forum shutdown.

This month alone should see a DRASTIC increase in DS software, so what is a poor Nintendo fan to do in regards to trackign those?

Nintendo Power lists the Top 10 (no numbers) for each Nintendo platform. It won't give us numbers ( ), but it'll give some idea of how particular titles are selling.

Guess I'm not loved or wanted anymore

Yes, you are, but you'll get banned, if you post stuff. C’est la vie. Thanks for the memories!

 

[rage1973]

Are we getting November numbers or does it start next month?

 

[Krowley]

Props to NPD... Very surprising turn of events.

 

[Jammy]

So we get the sales of the systems, a ranking of the top 20 games, and their sales?

That's fine with me, I guess. I've always thought it was pointless to determine stuff like which Tales PS2 game was the bigger flop.

 

[WHOAguitarninja]

Very cool of NPD to do that.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Are we getting November numbers or does it start next month?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=132896

 

[Flynn]

Seems like they're treating NeoGAF as a media outlet with the answering of specific questions. Pretty cool.

 

[xaosslug]

so, does that mean all yee mods have reached a definitive descension in regard to Square2005's "threads on decade-old info"?

:lol

 

[A Black Falcon]

so, does that mean all yee mods have reached a definitive descension in regard to Square2005's "threads on decade-old info"?

:lol

Sure it's old, but if the numbers haven't really been seen before, they're still just as interesting...

 

[charlequin]

Dammit, just when the gaming forum might have been threatening to become readable again for the first time in years.

*slouches back to OT*

We'll all miss you very much. :-(

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

If they will not show to the GAF their numbers, who will be interested in them ?

 

[LOCK]

Guess I'm not loved or wanted anymore

I want you.....bad.

lol

 

[Fuzzy]

So this is the data we now get here on GAF?

Japan (weekly)

Media Create - Top 10 numbers + Top 50 ranking + Hardware

Famitsu - Top 30 numbers + Hardware


US [monthly)

NPD - Top 20 numbers + Hardware + other assored data within reason


Europe (weekly)

Rankings from various countries