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[Gojiira]

When did they win? Because PS2 was still handling business the 1st few years of Xbox 360's life & PS3 was released a year after 360 but ended up ahead.

Literally this, even with a years headstart, PS3 was ahead within its first year and dominated the last half of that gen…

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

I remember wanting to play Halo 2 online soooooooooooooooo bad, but i couldn't because you needed a credit card for XBL, and my mom refused to give me hers. Never forget how she betrayed me.

 

[Det]

It's practically a draw

Does he need to say he won?
Then it's because he lost

 

[EN250]

They didn't win, but alright

They were competitive enough to trade punches with the undisputed king of consoles at the time, something MS was never able to replicate again, give him a pass, X360 was the best MS console released (HW issues aside )

 

[Trogdor1123]

20 years since the launch of the 360, man I feel old.

Me too, I was reading that… I had no kids back then and my wife and I weren't married yet. Wow, time flies.

 

[Bojanglez]

I guess they had their accountants define a way for them to declare victory.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

took about 50% market share from sony, i call that a win.

If you take market share away from someone, it's still not winning.

Likewise, someone didn't win a boxing match just because they landed a few hits.

 

[Clear]

They were competitive enough to trade punches with the undisputed king of consoles at the time, something MS was never able to replicate again, give him a pass, X360 was the best MS console released (HW issues aside )

Yeah, they were trading punches when Sony was high on their own supply following their dominant victories in the previous 2 gens and had just dropped an extremely overambitious piece of hardware that was an utter nightmare for developers.

Additionally Sony were taking a lot of flak in the press, and were comprehensively outmanoeuvred in the online space by Xbox handing out PartnerNet accounts to every hack in the enthusiast press in order to make their ecosystem the de-facto standard.

You'd think that would be enough for MS... but oh no, they had to try and take on Nintendo's Wii in order to achieve total domination and so went all-in on the motion gaming fad.

This is the thing people forget, if beating Sony was enough for them at that point, the wheels likely wouldn't have fallen off the Xbox wagon. But they had to take the casual market as well, and as a result they completely lost focus on the core demographic that got them to the party in the first place.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

All went to shit around here…

 

[Azelover]

If you focus on the US market alone, they probably won. But it was close..

The Wii was the real winner anyway. It's like saying the Xbox OG was the leader because it won second place.

 

[damidu]

Nope

Damn good CEO though, really enjoyed Xbox when he was at the helm

Went to shit with Halo 4, Kinect and the gay avatars everywhere

close enough, though ps3 comeback in that gen is definitely the bigger success story.

 

[Dr Bass]

The title should be more like "When Xbox took on Playstation and landed some punches." They never won anything.

 

[harmonize]

The only reason anyone can say Playstation beat the 360 with a straight face is because enough time has passed since that people don't really remember how dire the PS3 years were. Scrapping by on unit sales because developing and undeveloped countries that spend noticeably less on software preferred the PS3 and calling that a win is laughable when even the head honchos at Playstation admitted they couldn't afford another generation like that one with the PS4.

 

[March Climber]

I would consider it a win when you are an outsider and manage on your second console to steal half of the market share of the main competitor.

Just like a potentially great sports player, they had a moment in time where they had a good run and managed to get their name recognition.

Then they immediately lost steam/got injured and people look back in the sports history books as 'what could have been' with that player.

 

[CoreyFlawless]

Wonder who sold more software tho? I'm sure that be a bigger thing to know.

 

[Honey Bunny]

The first few 360 years were definitely better than PS3s. I say this as a former sonypony who pretended otherwise at the time.

 

[March Climber]

If you take market share away from someone, it's still not winning.

Xbox:

 

[skyfinch]

Yes, they did win. They had Kinect. Any other questions?

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

PS3 lost Sony market share, they lost money on every console sold until 2010, they lost their overwhelming lead in the gaming market, and they lost money overall that generation.

The only sense in which they "won" is that they eventually slightly surpassed 360 in units sold.

I have a really hard time seeing that as a win. I think Sony fans have forgotten just how dire things got during that generation. PS4 was a massive turnaround for PlayStation.

 

[SkylineRKR]

The most shocking is that its been 20 years ago. And did it really evolve from there bar load times and more visual detail? These consoles supported HDTV, had built in broadband modem, call of duty online etc. Today you can painlessly hook a PS3 or 360 up to your new TV with HDMI (later 360 revisions) and connect it online.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

LMAO they won?

I see George Costanza Jr, aka Peter Moore is still a delusional prick

 

[ByWatterson]

This and more from the 2017 Superbowl Champions, the Atlanta Falcons.

 

[Crayon]

They have their own special history books.

 

[ReBurn]

 

[CLW]

XBox as NEVER topped Sony in any generation WTF spin nonsense is this

 

[darrylgorn]

Phil to Pete: Mission Accomplished

 

[HJuggernaut]

If you take market share away from someone, it's still not winning.

Likewise, someone didn't win a boxing match just because they landed a few hits.

stay in school

 

[Hudo]

Peter Moore is the ultimate console warrior.



Does he have a GAF account?