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[pramod]

I know that they've tried all these sequels and also the recent reboots with Laurie as the main hero, but IMHO it just doesn't work. I think what people forget is that Laurie was never meant to be the "hero" of the original Halloween, the whole thing with her being his brother was retconned and is now even re-retconned into being not true. Laurie was never meant to be more than just the "last survivor girl". You have those in every horror film.

But they are just missing the whole point. Dr. Loomis has been and always will be the ying to Michael Meyer's yang. He was his psychiatrist. He's the only one who understood his nature. And it was his life mission to hunt him down and stop him.



And IMHO they should have ended Halloween after Halloween 2, it was the perfect sequel and ending.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

"The evil has gone!"

 

[PrimetimeKnight]

I agree, as much as I enjoyed the new Halloween and Laurie, she is no replacement for Loomis. He's probably my favorite character because he's really the only one who knows about Michael and is out to stop him. I'm both excited and nervous for the new Halloween movie because I'm not sure if the 3 Strode girls can carry this for 2 more films.

 

[brap]

All the ones after 2 sucked anyway. 3 was shit btw.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Busta Rhymes beating Michael's ass might be the low point of the franchise.

And fuck Blob Zombie and his abominable remakes. Is there anything that asshole can't shoehorn rednecks in to?

 

[brap]

Busta Rhymes beating Michael's ass might be the low point of the franchise.

Nah, it was great. 6 was the absolute fucking worst. Just a bottom of the barrel boring as fuck worthless pile of shit. I also don't need the image of michael fucking his niece.

 

[triplestation]

Agreed. He is what makes it. He is the audience imo.

 

[Doom85]

Eh, can't agree. Yes, Pleasance is terrific as Loomis, and his obsession with taking down Michael was compelling, but Laurie was kinda only wasted in 2 (well, also Resurrection, but that's obvious) since she spent most of it injured and not able to do much. In H20, her psychological damage from what happened was fairly interesting, but the 2018 film handled it FAR better as it shows how much it affected her family (whereas Josh Hartnett in H20 kind of came off as whiny as there wasn't much evidence that Laurie's mental trauma should be affecting his life THAT much).

The 2018 film just handled things so interesting, I loved seeing glimpses of Michael in the first 45 minutes without the mask as they managed to make a 61 year old man feel like a force of nature not to be fucked with (which makes that moment in H20 where a cop dismisses the idea of a 41 year old being a threat that much more stupid. An 81 year old with a weapon can be dangerous, how was a guy this dumb allowed on the force?!) and how Laurie's over-preparedness was justified yet came at a cost. Also, they managed to make the teens generally tolerable (aside from the granddaughter's boyfriend but we're supposed to hate his guts). Also appreciate how competent the sheriff was and only failed due to something he couldn't have predicted.

 

[TylersProphecy4.0]

Dr Loomis, the role Don Pleasance was born to play.

I miss him, but ya know, if little changes had occurred in the last film, I think I would have been alright with it, like no "fast and the furious" slomo shots of michael for example.

I also couldn't stand the girl power ending. They may as well have had all three family members put their finger on the trigger and pulled simultaneously.

Laurie strode was almost perfect too, until the end. The broken, dangerous crackpot she was was awesome, but when she starts mirroring Michael from 1 at the end, I just cant take it seriously. The movie tries to make Meyers look scared of her when ive always felt like he wouldnt have emotions...at all.

 

[Doom85]

The movie tries to make Meyers look scared of her when ive always felt like he wouldnt have emotions...at all.

I feel that's a stretch, I don't remember a single moment of Michael showing any hint of fear. Rather, he's smart, this film when he's walking among the trick-or-treaters and other films like when he's walking around town in the original 2nd film and doesn't attack the guy with the stereo shows that unlike Jason he does know to not just blindly rush in and attack anyone he can. So yeah, when Laurie's fully armed he's not going to just walk openly towards her, he's going to plan things out. Even if he can withstand far more damage than any normal human could, plenty of the previous films have shown he can be temporarily taken out of commission or even killed if he takes too much.

Also, what "girl power" ending? The granddaughter barely did anything, and the daughter had been trained to use guns and was familiar with the house's unique layout so the ending was totally logical. Yeah, the dad was kinda dumb and the boyfriend was a piece of shit, but they had likable and competent male characters too with the sheriff, the babysitter's kid she was watching and her boyfriend. Also, IIRC this film had Michael's largest body count compared to any of his other films by themselves, so yeah I'm really going to laugh if NeoGAF tries to argue this is a "men weak, women rule!" film.

Also, why wouldn't Laurie kick some ass in the climax? She's been preparing for this shit for FORTY YEARS, while Michael has just been chained up the whole time. She still stumbles plenty (Michael grabbing her through the door, realizing putting a ton of mannequins in a dark room wasn't the best call) but her being pretty competent shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Bigrx1]

I loved 2 the most, then 1, then pretty much none of them. I actually like 3 as it's own thing just wish it was called something else - I especially loved the ending of that one.

 

[Manus]

But 3 is the best one!

I did not like the new one that came out last year. Give me the Rob Zombie remake any day over what we got.

 

[Doom85]

I actually like 3 as it's own thing just wish it was called something else - I especially loved the ending of that one.

Thank you, I feel that movie gets a bad rap just because it's "not scary". Yeah, it's not, but as a fun Halloween-themed adventure film, it's fairly good. Hell, out of the whole franchise it's the one where the holiday is most relevant!

 

[brap]

Thank you, I feel that movie gets a bad rap just because it's "not scary". Yeah, it's not, but as a fun Halloween-themed adventure film, it's fairly good. Hell, out of the whole franchise it's the one where the holiday is most relevant!

It gets a bad rap because it's shit. Tired of everybodys shit excuses for it.

 

[Bigrx1]

It gets a bad rap because it's shit. Tired of everybodys shit excuses for it.

Loved it! Great fucking movie.

 

[Jooxed]

I thought the new one was alright, It was better than Rob Zombies and I like Rob Zombies movies for the most part. Rob Zombies Halloween was brutal and I liked that but the second one kinda lost it for me.

but Dr. Loomis is fantastic for sure

 

[pramod]

I feel that's a stretch, I don't remember a single moment of Michael showing any hint of fear. Rather, he's smart, this film when he's walking among the trick-or-treaters and other films like when he's walking around town in the original 2nd film and doesn't attack the guy with the stereo shows that unlike Jason he does know to not just blindly rush in and attack anyone he can. So yeah, when Laurie's fully armed he's not going to just walk openly towards her, he's going to plan things out. Even if he can withstand far more damage than any normal human could, plenty of the previous films have shown he can be temporarily taken out of commission or even killed if he takes too much.

Also, what "girl power" ending? The granddaughter barely did anything, and the daughter had been trained to use guns and was familiar with the house's unique layout so the ending was totally logical. Yeah, the dad was kinda dumb and the boyfriend was a piece of shit, but they had likable and competent male characters too with the sheriff, the babysitter's kid she was watching and her boyfriend. Also, IIRC this film had Michael's largest body count compared to any of his other films by themselves, so yeah I'm really going to laugh if NeoGAF tries to argue this is a "men weak, women rule!" film.

Also, why wouldn't Laurie kick some ass in the climax? She's been preparing for this shit for FORTY YEARS, while Michael has just been chained up the whole time. She still stumbles plenty (Michael grabbing her through the door, realizing putting a ton of mannequins in a dark room wasn't the best call) but her being pretty competent shouldn't be an issue.

Why is Michael even obsessed about Laurie though? They never explained it. Just because she got away?

 

[Doom85]

Why is Michael even obsessed about Laurie though? They never explained it. Just because she got away?

In the 2018 film, he isn't. Michael is simply going through the town killing who he can in their homes. He only winds up at Laurie's because IIRC he was following her granddaughter after she escaped the police car. Laurie's the one obsessed with him, but in this film (since they're no longer related) she's just another potential victim to him.

 

[brap]

Loved it! Great fucking movie.

It's a pile of shit.