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I actually have Anduril. If any burglar enters my place of residence he shall face nerd justice.
It'd be more likely to shatter than mete out justice.
I actually have Anduril. If any burglar enters my place of residence he shall face nerd justice.
I have no doubt in my mind that the Del Toro Version would have been better than what we will get.
It would have been nice to see a different take on Middle-earth from someone who certainly came across as having a good understanding of the source material.I have no doubt in my mind that the Del Toro Version would have been better than what we will get.
A lot of people disagree though.
Edmond Dantès;41380318 said:Guillermo's interpretation of The Hobbit would have been a sight to see.
I'm sure that kind of stuff will be included in the Blu-ray/DVD extras.I would have loved to have seen Del Toro's Hobbit. In fact, I'd rather have him than Jackson. Hope we get to see designs in the future.
I don't think one director should have a monopoly on Tolkien's legendarium.Nobody should touch LOTR or The Hobbit but Jackson, IMO, it's his baby, and he knows how to pull it off, curious to see what Del Toro would have done though.
Nobody should touch LOTR or The Hobbit but Jackson, IMO, it's his baby, and he knows how to pull it off, curious to see what Del Toro would have done though.
This. So much this. I would love to see what GDT had in mind, but I'd rather have an universe that flows well. PJ showed he's the man for the job already.Yeah, but I'd rather see one man's coherent vision than the disjointed visions of four different men (the Harry Potter films).
Pan's Labyrinth is evidence enough of that.Del Toro would have been perfectly suited to the fairy tale nature of the Hobbit.
I have no doubt in my mind that the Del Toro Version would have been better than what we will get.
A lot of people disagree though.
Yeah, but I'd rather see one man's coherent vision than the disjointed visions of four different men (the Harry Potter films).
Edmond Dantès;41381675 said:Pan's Labyrinth is evidence enough of that.
But I still think Guillermo's influence will be felt throughout The Hobbit. Creature designs in particular.
I'm not going to mention if it would have been better or worse, but it would have been too different.
It wouldn't have come off as a cohesive world any more. It would have been a mess when viewed as 6 movies of a series.
StarWars IV, V and VI feels like a part of a Trilogy and they were made by different directors.
Its not like Jackson is the only competent director who can make great stuff out of something.
The Wargs are quite a departure too and that may be down to Guillermo's influence.The troll designs that we saw at comic-con seemed very Del Toro-esque to me.
Edmond Dantès;41402376 said:The Wargs are quite a departure too and that may be down to Guillermo's influence.
At least they don't like hyenas anymore.
I feel your pain.Yeah, definitely an improvement.
I was at an antique shop with my girlfriend this afternoon and we both made a B-line for their old books section, I came across a copy of the 50th Anniversary Edition of The Hobbit from 1987:
That's not the one I saw, just a Google image. But the thing looked practically brand new. It looks identical to the 75th Anniversary edition, except instead it's gold instead of green. To bad I didn't have $100 to spare
Pretty much. Fantasy works better in the hands of a director with some imagination.
That's the version I have, and was a present from my father many, many years ago. Its one of the few physical books I still own.
That's not the one I saw, just a Google image. But the thing looked practically brand new. It looks identical to the 75th Anniversary edition, except instead it's gold instead of green. To bad I didn't have $100 to spare
Edmond Dantès;41437221 said:On the topic of swords; I wonder if the history of Glamdring will be explored in The Hobbit.
The likes of the great King Turgon,his adopted son Tuor, the only man to ever be counted as one of the Elves and to remain in Valinor or the even mightier Ecthelion who defeated the Lord of the Valaraukar; Gothmog, the Voice of Morgoth in a tremendous duel which saw them both fighting while they sank to the bottom of the fountain of Gondolin ending in both their deaths.(who Glamdring originally belonged to)
And even a mention of a certain Glorfindel who Peter seems to dislike.
Christopher Tolkien has this to say in Return of the Shadow (History of Middle-earth volume 6).Is it the same Glorfindel though? There doesn't seem to be a consensus on that one.
Also, the following plot notes were scribbled down by Tolkien, something he did very often when writing his legandarium. Some of these jottings are lost forever, but Christopher has salvaged much, hence The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, Book of Lost Tales, early drafts of The Hobbit, LOTR are in existence today."Also very notable is 'Glorfindel tells of his ancestry in Goldolin.' Years later, long after the publication of The Lord of the Rings,my father gave a great deal of thought to the matter of Glorfindel, and at that time he wrote:'[The use of Glorfindel] in The Lord of the Rings is one of the cases of the somewhat random use of the names found in the older legends, now referred to as The Silmarillion, which escaped reconsideration in the final publication of The Lord of the Rings.' He came to the conclusion that Glorfindel of Gondolin, who fell to his death in combat with a Balrog after the sack of the city, and Glorfindel of Rivendell were one and the same: he was released from mandos and returned to Middle-earth in the second age."
Consultation. Over M[isty] M[ountains]. Down Great River to Mordor. Dark Tower. Beyond(?) which is the Fiery Hill.
Story of Gil-galad told by Elrond? Who is Trotter? Glorfindel tells of his ancestry in Gondolin.
Nothing to do with being whiny as has been stated many times before. The Silmarillion, the history of the elves, Beren and Luthien meant more to Tolkien than any of his other works so Christopher has every right to be protective of his father's work and it is highly disrespectful to refer to him in such a manner after all he has done.My favourite bad ass moment of the Tolkien universe is the Fingolfin vs Morgoth fight.
Actually nothing comes close in the Hobbit and LotR to the epicness of what happens in the Silmarillion. Kinda a bummer that the Tolkien estate are such whiney bitches. I would love to see some of those things on screen.
I'm okay with Jackson directing but it will be a crime if we never get to see Del Toro's designs for the Hobbit.
Edmond Dantès;41447704 said:Glorfindel's battle with a balrog on the mountains encircling Gondolin is certainly one of the greatest acts of valour exhibited in the Arda mythos.
Man, I love John Howe's art, but he was always bad at drawing humans. Glorfindel just looks terrible, his sword, the way he holds it, his wrist unnaturally bent and the crappy hilt... it feels like he spent an hour drawing the balrog and ten seconds drawing Glorfindel
Same with the Fingolfin/Morgoth painting. Morgoth looks badass though. Maybe he just liked villains more?
I was at an antique shop with my girlfriend this afternoon and we both made a B-line for their old books section, I came across a copy of the 50th Anniversary Edition of The Hobbit from 1987:
That's not the one I saw, just a Google image. But the thing looked practically brand new. It looks identical to the 75th Anniversary edition, except instead it's gold instead of green. To bad I didn't have $100 to spare
Edmond Dantès;41380318 said:Peter Jackson on how much of Guillermo's Hobbit remains
http://io9.com/5937177/peter-jackso...illermo-del-toros-design-dna-is-in-the-hobbit
Very intriguing. Guillermo's interpretation of The Hobbit would have been a sight to see.
The scores will be most assuredly brilliant, but there won't be any returning themes except maybe the Shire theme according to the author of the music of the Lord of the Rings companion book.I'm not usually the fan for covers, but these two caught my eye in particular
Concerning Hobbits
Rohan
I can't wait to see what Howard Shore brings us!
8 Nov, 2012Special collectors film tie-in hardback of the best-selling classic, featuring the complete story with a sumptuous cover design inspired by The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey and brand new reproductions of all the drawings and maps by J.R.R. Tolkien.
Think of it like Shakespeare for example. Many different adaptations all with their own unique style.What will happen when the Hobbit and LOTR become public domain? Does that mean anyone can use it how they like? I for one am ready for "Avengers vs. Middle Earth". I assume that also means LOTR will be rebooted once or twice before 2050.
http://www.parade.com/celebrity/celebrity-parade/2012/08/28-elijah-wood-the-hobbit.html"It felt like home," he said. "I think after so much time had passed, it was also quite surreal. But I think the most surreal thing about it is that it felt oddly normal. I think I expected it to feel like eight years had passed and in a way it felt like no time had passed. In that way, it really surprised me. It was like a family reunion. It was like stepping back in time. It was a gift. It was really wonderful to revisit old friends and be in that space again. And not having the responsibility of three movies. It was nice to pop in and pop out and have a lovely visit."
Well he said it was "a lovely visit" which kinda indicates he won't have that much screen time.Edmond Dantès;41521221 said:I like Elijah and his depiction of Frodo, but I hope we don't see too much of him.