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Reading The Hobbit again. Is my memory playing tricks on me, or does The Necromancer have a very VERY small part in the book? What's the significance of him in the film, or is it drawing from something outside of the book?
 
Number45 said:
Reading The Hobbit again. Is my memory playing tricks on me, or does The Necromancer have a very VERY small part in the book? What's the significance of him in the film, or is it drawing from something outside of the book?
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The Necromancer is only briefly mentioned in the Hobbit but what Gandalf was up to during that time was expanded on a bit in the Lord of the Rings and I guess even more in the appendices.
 
Number45 said:
Reading The Hobbit again. Is my memory playing tricks on me, or does The Necromancer have a very VERY small part in the book? What's the significance of him in the film, or is it drawing from something outside of the book?
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Drawing from info outside of The Hobbit and from Tolkien's legendarium.

A way to explain why Gandalf disappears a third of the way through the narrative and link The Hobbit to The Lord of the Rings and give the second Dark Lord a backstory and to expain his origins somewhat.
 
Hmm, I don't remember him cropping up much in the LOTR books either (but I'm terrible for forgetting details). I'll have to check out the appendices at some point, thanks.


Edmond Dantès;41826047 said:
Drawing from info outside of The Hobbit and from Tolkien's legendarium.

A way to explain why Gandalf disappears a third of the way through the narrative and link The Hobbit to The Lord of the Rings and give the second Dark Lord a backstory and to expain his origins somewhat.
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Ah, thanks. Sounds good then, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going mad. I really need to read outside of the four main books at some stage.
 
Edmond Dantès;41826112 said:
He's mentioned in the appendices and Gandalf talks of him during The Council of Elrond.
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That bit I do remember, only read it last night. I was interested if they were literally expanding from that one mention or if there's more.
 
Number45 said:
That bit I do remember, only read it last night. I was interested if they were literally expanding from that one mention or if there's more.
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The stuff in the appendices is very brief, it's really just a timeline.

Anything else is just from the imagination of Peter and co.
 
Chances are we don't get a 48fps trailer ever online, right? It seems like the amount of positive it could do is nil, the negative palpable. I'd personally love it, but not hoping anymore.
 
J2 Cool said:
Chances are we don't get a 48fps trailer ever online, right? It seems like the amount of positive it could do is nil, the negative palpable. I'd personally love it, but not hoping anymore.
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No chance now.

The first time we witnesses The Hobbit in 48fps will be in the cinema.
 
Edmond Dantès;41826494 said:
No chance now.

The first time we witnesses The Hobbit in 48fps will be in the cinema.
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Woah, just saw the article reporting 48fps versions will be limited release. That's a shame, but I understand the concern. Guess I'll have to hunt down a theater now. Wonder if they'll attach a "48fps experience" to them, similar to 3D, or if it will be like Digital/Real Imax where you have to do your research.
 
Altazor said:
yeah, well, we don't have ANY 48fps-able cinema here in Chile, so even if I drive 3 or 5 or 10 hours I'd be unable to watch it :P
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Ha, sorry, I guess it could be worse but look on the bright side you won't be tempted to drive a ridiculous distance to watch a movie.

Where I live, I just happen to be between 3 and 4 hours from New York City, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington DC. I would imagine one of those cities will have a theater or 2 showing the movie at 48fps but a 6-7 hour round trip is a hard pill to swallow.
 
Felix Lighter said:
Ha, sorry, I guess it could be worse but look on the bright side you won't be tempted to drive a ridiculous distance to watch a movie.

Where I live, I just happen to be between 3 and 4 hours from New York City, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington DC. I would imagine one of those cities will have a theater or 2 showing the movie at 48fps but a 6-7 hour round trip is a hard pill to swallow.
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It's a dangerous business, Felix Lighter, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.
 
One does not simply walk into Pittsburgh, its black gates....

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...are guarded my more than just orcs.
 
Felix Lighter said:
Ha, sorry, I guess it could be worse but look on the bright side you won't be tempted to drive a ridiculous distance to watch a movie.

Where I live, I just happen to be between 3 and 4 hours from New York City, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington DC. I would imagine one of those cities will have a theater or 2 showing the movie at 48fps but a 6-7 hour round trip is a hard pill to swallow.
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heh, you're right. And yes, such a trip isn't very nice but it may be worth it. I wouldn't go for it, anyway, not unless I could spend more time in the city than just going to watch a movie and then return.
 
You know, I was cut off from cable and the internet when the first trailers were going up for LOTR/FotR. I never saw any posted here, but I did see this one on a new release VHS we rented:

1:12 was when I had some severe geek thrillgasms. I remember being happy that Boromir had his horn and especially his shield for some reason.

Edmond Dantès;41829298 said:
It's a dangerous business, Felix Lighter, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.
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I posted that quote on my Facebook a few weeks ago and people were straight up crying.

Probably one of the most beloved lines in the trilogy I would say.
 
wasn't there apprehension when the fellowship of the ring was in production? seems to be the same with the hobbit. indeed, i admit that i'm still sceptical about some of the casting p.jackson has chosen but i have a feeling it will all turn out well.
 
Dmax3901 said:
Do we know an exact day or just that it's this month?
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Jackson said this month. Most people are assuming the 21st September which is the 75th anniversary of The Hobbit's publication.

Keep an eye on that film trailer classification site. If it's classified on there, then the trailer will be released a week or so after.
 
agrajag said:
I'm really nervous about how much they might expand the Necromancer character.
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I think Peter, Fran and Philippa realise that they didn't do justice to the character of Sauron in the LOTR trilogy and are wanting to put that right in The Hobbit trilogy. Whether they overdo it and saturate the character, well, we'll know soon enough.
 
agrajag said:
I'm really nervous about how much they might expand the Necromancer character.
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In what sense? That the character may lose some of his mystique? Or about the rumors of the alterations to his role in the films to better tie-in with Smaug? Personally I'm very intrigued by the rumored changes since I actually don't think they sound completely insane. I'm looking forward to seeing how (and if) they pan out.
 
Noob question, but serious nontheless; will the Hobbit trilogy have monsters and epic battles? If not, what is it exactly? Just Hobbit life?
 
RiverBed said:
Noob question, but serious nontheless; will the Hobbit trilogy have monsters and epic battles? If not, what is it exactly? Just Hobbit life?
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There are giant spiders, wolves, trolls, stone giants, goblins of all shapes and sizes, Gollum, a magnificent dragon, a shape shifting bear, talking eagles and birds, and a ghostly sorcerer known as The Necromancer and his cohort of creatures that may include zombie orcs, werewolves, giant bats and creatures known as Wights.

In terms of battles, the big one is known as The Battle of the Five Armies. Elves, men, dwarves, goblins and wargs. Other smaller battles/confrontations involving
Wizards and the sorcerer and even our friendly neighborhood dragon.

The Hobbit is a grand adventure in its own right and is not to be overshadowed by The Lord of the Rings.

You shall be entertained.
 
There's a Hobbit Movies (official) iPhone/iPad app out. Not sure if posted.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hobbit-movies/id545808528
 
Loxley said:
In what sense? That the character may lose some of his mystique? Or about the rumors of the alterations to his role in the films to better tie-in with Smaug? Personally I'm very intrigued by the rumored changes since I actually don't think they sound completely insane. I'm looking forward to seeing how (and if) they pan out.
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In every way possible. Basically, my concern is that whatever they come up with will be coming from the film-makers' imaginations, not Tolkien's, since there's barely anything written about Sauron as Necromancer in Tolkien's legendarium. Supposedly it's a speaking role, so they're expanding the character quite a bit. Edmond Dantes, correct me if I'm wrong, but Sauron only has dialogue one time, in the Beren and Luthien story.

edit: new photos are great, but once again, I am really bothered by Kili's lack of facial hair!
 
Thought this might be interesting- footage from LOTR which was left on the cutting room floor, including Sauron fighting at the Black Gate, Eoywn fighting in the Glittering Caves, Goblins attacking Lothlorien, and Frodo becoming a Gollum like creature.

Having seen plenty of stills (especially in Games Workshops books) it was interesting to see some of the scenes in motion. I'm glad PJ restrained himself with many of these!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_k8RTKGlg0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybiAMHT7HvA
 
That bald dwarf (Dwalin?) looks friggin badass. Wouldn't want to mess with him. IIRC he had a big ass hammer in the first pics and is the tallest one or slightly shorter than Thorin?
 
RamzaIsCool said:
I am wondering something... can they make a Beren and Luthien movie, because their story is somewhat mentioned in the LotR.
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Technically they can be mentioned by name and detailed in brief, but the actual narrative is strictly off-limits.
agrajag said:
In every way possible. Basically, my concern is that whatever they come up with will be coming from the film-makers' imaginations, not Tolkien's, since there's barely anything written about Sauron as Necromancer in Tolkien's legendarium. Supposedly it's a speaking role, so they're expanding the character quite a bit. Edmond Dantes, correct me if I'm wrong, but Sauron only has dialogue one time, in the Beren and Luthien story.
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He also has dialogue in the Akallabêth, in fact it's his most prominent role in all of Tolkien's legendarium. You get a strong sense of his character in that story.
 
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