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The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel |OT| Class Warfare
- Thread starter Dandy Crocodile
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And scan every enemy, if you want to go for the platinum that is.
I learned this the hard way.
Cornbread78
Member
uuggh...
I missed a treasure chest..... somewhere?!? Well, and I didn't scan every enemy...
Scrooge McDuck
Member
People have been recommending this and it never set in what that would mean until I realized where some of the hidden quests are and fuck me, there's no way I could follow that advice! You'd literally end up playing for 100 hours.
There's a great guide on GameFAQs that's nearly entirely spoiler free. Everyone use that.
Talking to every NPC every time is a big part of my Trails enjoyment. I'd still do it even if there's no hidden quest to be found.
(I finished Cold Steel in 102 hours.)
It's a huge part of what I love about the games too, the extra level of insight into people's lives. It should be a choice though, it's OK to not want to meticulously follow every npc's story. Unfortunately that does mean you'll miss some items or quests.
My first play took 129 hours and I didn't once feel like it was a chore.
About 167 hours on my first run, but I also spent a lot of time just fighting things. I actually lamented that the game was almost over, even knowing that the sequel was only a month away back when I finally did clear it the first time.
Detection Quartz is your friend.
God, in my NG+ run to get that I was always thinking in the back of my mind. "Did I miss one? I hope not..." Checking every map about three or four times. Then it popped and I was relieved.
Man, with 2 out I'd rather just focus on a good save export (easier it seems with the Shining Pom bait) and getting major useful items and most quests. Save those shenanigans for if I have the luxury to replay on PS3 in the future (preferably after things start to get hazy) or something.
This was most definitely me last night (I wasn't even going to bother going for the other trophies needed for the Platinum if I had missed it).
Some Nobody
Junior Member
I talk to a lot of NPCs because their dialogue changes so much its like following a story, but a hidden quest in Chapter 2 required me to visit a place I literally would never have gone back to because there wasn't much to it the first time around. We showed up, had a brief conversation and left. There's no way I would've ever thought that's where the missing quest was.
Then in Chapter 3 a dude was just randomly behind a building. Like, LMAO. I feel like this is what people who don't like quest markers want, and I also feel like ya'll are nuts.
But anyway, I'm about to dive back into this 'cause I wanna finish Ch. 3 before the day's out if possible.
Urgh. I wanted to get Tomb Raider but now that 2's out I might just crack and get it instead next month. >_<
Nah, most of us would want it to be intuitive and never locked out due to progress. This just sounds like the madness that sometimes shows up in JRPGs.Then in Chapter 3 a dude was just randomly behind a building. Like, LMAO. I feel like this is what people who don't like quest markers want, and I also feel like ya'll are nuts.
Is it just me or are the battles in Cold Steel much lengthier than TitS and balanced in an.... odd way? I'm playing on Normal. I feel that in general I don't do as much damage as I should, enemies deal enough damage that my characters are often in significant danger, but never enough to ever outright wipe the party, so even regular battles feel like a battle of attrition between chipping away at the enemy and healing. Seems a bit off and less fun than what I'm used to from Falcom...
In my ng+ I did miss one. Third time was the charm for me.
YianGaruga
Banned
The trick is to SPAM crafts and unbalance enemies for those team-up/link attacks, you have almost infinite CP anyway, especially with Rean's Master Quartz. Most random battles on normal were very one sided affairs for me. Maybe it's different in the very beghining, I don't remember.
Support members traveling with you will get a level from poms, but members not in your current party will get nothing. The best way to use the baits is to wait until the last dungeon since you will be able to have the most members with you and then use them in the first floor of the old schoolhouse once you are getting very little exp from fights.
The beginning's pretty easy too if you know what crafts to abuse. Rean's Motivate gives everyone more CP, and Elliot's regenerates a good chunk of HP while boosting defense. I jumped back in, sorta forgot about that, and got wrecked. The follow battles I used those and hadn't died since or even been in serious threat of dying.
Though that first time was partially god damn status effects too. Well, there's items to buy to mitigate those, as usual.
Like the last post said, save it for the end of the game. You'd have everyone with you, and since you're ONLY going to get a single level up from them period it's better to do it when there is nothing else left to effectively level with.
Cornbread78
Member
I am truly humbled, lol.
Lol! Should I tell him I started CSII on normal this time?
My second play-through will be on nightmare for ultimate pain, lol.
Cornbread78
Member
Nord is the common complaint for lengthy running around, but Alisa's joint got quite a few long truding along the maps just to talk to someone and get teleported back to town lol.
I do love this place storywise though.
And first 'game over' in this playthrough against
Forgot how easily you can get boned if you get fainted in this game.
I do love this place storywise though.
And first 'game over' in this playthrough against
C.
Dragon1893
Member
Made some progress during the weekend, currently in chapter 5.
Teleporting/running saves a lot of time, thank god for those.
How far would you say I am percentage wise at the chapter 5 old schoolhouse quest?
I've been doing all the optional quests and spending all my bonding points, I'm assuming there's more extra stuff but I'll never be done with the game if I worry about that lol.
Teleporting/running saves a lot of time, thank god for those.
How far would you say I am percentage wise at the chapter 5 old schoolhouse quest?
I've been doing all the optional quests and spending all my bonding points, I'm assuming there's more extra stuff but I'll never be done with the game if I worry about that lol.
Dragon1893
Member
Hm, I probably have another 25-30 hours to go.
seems safe.
every chapter is fairly 'consistent' in length, with the last one being a bit longer because, you know, ending of a jrpg.
Dragon1893
Member
Yeah, that's what I figured lol.
Going by that little bit we saw at the start
I bet Olivier got nostalgic. Even though it was only like a year.
you know... i almost kinda wish they copied persona more and just used anime portraits for dialogue.
The art is really good based off the on the map talking heads freaking about treasure every 2 min.
No clue why they decided to use the ps2 ass texture faces. They've used anime faces in the past, and pretty much all ys games too.
The art is really good based off the on the map talking heads freaking about treasure every 2 min.
No clue why they decided to use the ps2 ass texture faces. They've used anime faces in the past, and pretty much all ys games too.
R_thanatos
Member
I'd rather see a consitent display between the models , the models during cutscenes and those during portraits.
The 2d portraits in Tits were used to add flavor to the 2d Sprites something you can't do as well with 3D models . Heck considering how the world is fully in 3D now ( no more of those can't turn the camera areas ) , there was no reason to keep 2D portraits.
Also do you really remember PS2 model faces ? because Cold steel is not in the same league at ALL
hmmm true. at the very least FF games had better faces.
Cold Steel is really an interesting effort from Falcom. Parts of it feel so Persona but without the tedium of it being the entire game and the rest of it feels so Trails. Overall though, it's not surprising that the first game wasn't super well recieved given how it is clear that it is a longass introduction to the next game. FC style.
Glad I have CS2 sitting in the box waiting!
Glad I have CS2 sitting in the box waiting!
Dragon1893
Member
Yeah, I mentioned the same thing on the previous page, every time I enter the menu it reminds me that the models don't do the art justice, shame they didn't go with portraits.
They are exclusive DLC, and can be used in part 2 as well. There are some costumes you can unlock in game, mostly via the NG+ shop. They are outfits that you will see your party in at some point in the game.
When you say NG+ shop, do you mean I have to play NG+ to get them, or can I buy them in the NG+ menu for my clear save and use them in CS2? Are there no costumes in the first run of the game proper?
You can get winter/summer uniforms on a first playthrough. The rest are NG+ only. By NG+ shop I mean the thing that pops up when you start a NG+ run that lets you spend 5 points per completed playthrough on various options. No in-game unlockable costumes carry over to CS2, but they are obtainable via the NG+ shop in that game.
Dandy Crocodile
Member
Aren't the swimsuits and pajamas unlockable in a first playthrough?
Those are NG+ options, so I don't think so.
those 2 things are really broken, even when not used together. they pretty much carried me through the last bosses. (Moebius needs to be at level 5 or it's pretty useless, btw)
speaking of last bosses, I've read a lot of people complaining about how awful and random the last boss is on nightmare and yes, I got that impression the first time I tried to win the fight and failed, but then the game literally tells you what craft you should use to win, I more or less spammed that and won on my second try. I got probably lucky with the counters but if you use the proper strategy
>buffing before using the special rush attack, and then use the 90 CP craft with the buff still active<
overall I enjoyed the game, but I had quite a few issues with it and I can see why some people called it the weakest entry in the series. as a start of a trilogy, FC was definitely better.
I'm in Chapter 4 now, about to leave on the Field Study. I think I actually missed a Red Rose chapter in Chapter 3. Am I doomed? Should I just delete my saves and sell both games?
Apparently missing books will show up as Curios in Micht's pawn shop at some point.
Thanks, managed to get it from the pawn shop for 4000 mira. I also decided to finally exploit Elliot's eggcellent cooking skills and made over 50k mira just making 99 omelets over and over. I'm surprised the economy of Trista didn't collapse, but I guess they could just be stocking all those Warm Egg Soups for export to the Summer Festival! Outsource catering?! Maybe!
I don't think I'll have problems with money ever again...
I don't think I'll have problems with money ever again...
bishopcruz
Member
One of the only issues I ever had with the game was that money seemed real hard to come by outside of that trick. Especially if you want to keep your guys up to date with the best gear. I found myself only upgrading weapons and armor when I absolutely had to.
I also drowned Erebonia in delicious soup as you did though. I swear, Elliot could have started his own company and had offices in Hiemdallr selling frozen soup around the world.