The Legend of Korra: Book Two – Spirits |OT| Korra Ain't Number Wan

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BorkBork said:
3) I am slightly optimistic that they have learned to dial back on the ambition for Season 3 to fit the minseries format. Coming off of Book 1, they didn't really have time to incorporate feedback into Book 2.
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I see no grounds for this optimism except for hope, which as we all know will exist even in the darkest of places
 
Ah so he can't do young Aang voice anymore huh?

And yeah, you'd think they'd keep the emblem or something. It's not like the gap is a century or so.
 
Impressions from episodes 11-12.

Nice to see Bumi got some action. Varrick is my favourite character form this season, and has been amzing from start to finish. The movers were funny witht the laser eyes and robots. Face-palmed when Korra met Mako, kissed him and said she forgot their fight.
The fight between the two brothers looked nice, though attack felt kinda random.

The relationship stuff is still cringe worthy and I feel bad about how this show treats Asami.
Dark Avatar like many people guessed. Bumi's rescue plan was amusing to watch. Looks like the children might not turn on their father. And of course Asami gets sent back and can't be part of the final battle.
 
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Bolin is back, just finished night of a thousand stars. So awesome. The sequence where he was fighting in the arena with the screen showing. So corny but it got me good.

SHIT, Asami>korra.
 
So I guess everyone's seen the last two episodes lol. I've just seen the thread. My thoughts on Ep 11 and 12.

They were awesome, the characters finally all worked together and none of them came off as useless. It sees the writers are actually beginning to find use for the cast this tie instead of mindless filler.
 
Moaradin said:
I must say I like Korra's character a lot more after the last few episodes.
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Korra was pretty painful to watch the first half but they did a good job with her character later on. It wasn't the smoothest character growth but I like the end result all the same.

Passive Assassin said:
so do i skip the beginning on season 2 and start from the middle of the season?
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Well if you only want half of the 3 main conflicts and you're only interested in the nice animation and fights. Really though, I think the first half is worth it just to give you the background plus, I can't say this for sure lol, but I think the first half might be a lot more tolerable if you're not watching it once a week. A straight run through sounds like it can help.

Or...just start at The Biginning part 1 if you really want.
 
From Bryan's tumblr:

P.S. I forgot to mention, we have seen the first four episodes of Take 1 animation from Studio Mir on Book 3. AWESOME STUFF! They continue to blow us away. The premiere date hasn’t been pinned down, but we are on track to airing Book 3 with MUCH less of a wait than the unfortunate one there was before Book 2 aired. We are all incredibly excited for you all to see the new book. For now, I hope enjoyed the Book 2 finale!
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Amikami said:
Korra was pretty painful to watch the first half but they did a good job with her character later on. It wasn't the smoothest character growth but I like the end result all the same.



Well if you only want half of the 3 main conflicts and you're only interested in the nice animation and fights. Really though, I think the first half is worth it just to give you the background plus, I can't say this for sure lol, but I think the first half might be a lot more tolerable if you're not watching it once a week. A straight run through sounds like it can help.

Or...just start at The Biginning part 1 if you really want.
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i'll do a straight run from the beginning of the new season, it seems like the payoff at the end is worth it.
 
So I kind of dropped Korra because it felt a lot like season 1, but decided to pick it up again. Wow. It got progressively better and after episode 10 hit, the season felt a lot like the Avatar of old. The spirit world never ceases to amaze me and proves there are still wonderful stories to tell from it.
 
Please use this thread http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=716879 to talk about the two final episodes, or at the very least clearly mark your spoilers. Because of the unusual way Nick is airing them it's not reasonable to expect that everyone who clicks this thread will have seen them. People might not even know the episodes are available online until they come to this thread.
 
My goodness! Since The Beginnings episodes, this show has just been so good.

Episode 11 - 12

All I can say is that the animation is soooo good, and the characters actually feel like they're blending together.

Fight scenes were incredible. :)

BASED. STUDIO. MIR.
 
Agree with a lot of you in the strength of the last few eps, I'm not quite as invested in this as I was in ATLA so maybe I can accept the faults a bit easier.

Asami (
who didn't get much shine in the last 4, not necessarily a bad thing
) aside the one thing they nailed late on were the supporting characters, Korra too but that really stuck out to me.
 
BorkBork said:
At least it can't get any worse, right?

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Right?
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Maybe it is your nostalgia talking, but I've just rewatched the entirety of ATLA the past two months and on the whole it is neither better nor worse than TLOK has been. It has its shinning moments, it has its cringey moments, it has its bad moments, it has its okay moments. But it isn't some pinnacle of storytelling that makes TLOK look like bad fanfiction (the comics are that), but it is an ambitious and groundbreaking series that took risks and delivered, just like TLOK has been doing.
 
SG-17 said:
Maybe it is your nostalgia talking, but I've just rewatched the entirety of ATLA the past two months and on the whole it is neither better nor worse than TLOK has been. It has its shinning moments, it has its cringey moments, it has its bad moments, it has its okay moments. But it isn't some pinnacle of storytelling that makes TLOK look like bad fanfiction (the comics are that), but it is an ambitious and groundbreaking series that took risks and delivered, just like TLOK has been doing.
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I disagree entirely, having done basically the same thing. On the whole, ATLA is far better constructed and leads logically to a far more coherent ending (energybending excluded, that is probably the first step of Avatar's heart of darkness) with an excellent exploration of character.

Even if I were to point out just one thing it'd be that ATLA knows how to utilise its cast far more effectively than LoK. The twins and most of Team Avatar except Korra were essentially doing nothing of worth or indeed coherence this season.
 
I recently watched ATLA too and it's way better than anything Korra has put out so far. The characters are just way better and infinitely times more interesting. Korra just doesn't have the same charm as the first series.
 
SG-17 said:
Maybe it is your nostalgia talking, but I've just rewatched the entirety of ATLA the past two months and on the whole it is neither better nor worse than TLOK has been. It has its shinning moments, it has its cringey moments, it has its bad moments, it has its okay moments. But it isn't some pinnacle of storytelling that makes TLOK look like bad fanfiction (the comics are that), but it is an ambitious and groundbreaking series that took risks and delivered, just like TLOK has been doing.
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I came to ATLA within the last couple of years, finishing it right as Korra started, and this post could not be more wrong. ATLA is head and shoulders above Korra in pretty much every department.
 
maharg said:
I came to ATLA within the last couple of years, finishing it right as Korra started, and this post could not be more wrong. ATLA is head and shoulders above Korra in pretty much every department.
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I went in to ATLA blind right as Book 1 of Korra was finishing up, so I was able to marathon Book 1 of Korra immediately after getting through all of ATLA. I agree with this 100%. Korra is comparable to the first bunch of ATLA episodes. Book 1 of Korra was a huge step down from Book 3 of ATLA, although it was promising enough initially.

Edit: To expand on this, in early ATLA episodes the characters are pretty flat - they have one-note personalities - and it's these early versions of them which are being parodied in The Ember Island Players. The show hasn't yet figured out how to integrate comedy into the stories it's telling, and so characters are either designated comic relief characters, like Sokka, or they completely change their personality briefly in order to get a laugh (Iroh does a lot of this early on). The villains have really shallow and poorly-explained motivations - "Honor!", Zhao in general. The show gets much better when Sokka becomes competent and when the characters develop more rounded personalities that make them and their attempts at humor seem more natural. Zuko stands out, of course - compare even just S1 Zuko to Eska. Eventually, of course, the show explores shades of gray that Korra has never imagined.
 
SG-17 said:
Maybe it is your nostalgia talking, but I've just rewatched the entirety of ATLA the past two months and on the whole it is neither better nor worse than TLOK has been. It has its shinning moments, it has its cringey moments, it has its bad moments, it has its okay moments. But it isn't some pinnacle of storytelling that makes TLOK look like bad fanfiction (the comics are that), but it is an ambitious and groundbreaking series that took risks and delivered, just like TLOK has been doing.
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I strongly disagree.

I have also rewatched ATLA in the last few months, specifically to see if it is my nostalgia talking, and it is miles and miles above Korra in every way possible.

The highs are higher, the baseline is higher, each individual episode is self-contained, memorable and contributes to the greater narrative, and there is no comparison between the characterizations. If they were unrelated series, I would have been shocked they came from the same people. There is a chasm between the quality of the two, particularly after Korra's Book Two, which is mind-bogglingly abysmal. Not hyperbole.
 
I last saw ATLA just a couple of months before Korra Book 1 aired, so I've never bought the nostalgia argument either. But I think it might be time for another complete rewatch through, especially after reading the most recent string of comments. :)

Jintor said:
I disagree entirely, having done basically the same thing. On the whole, ATLA is far better constructed and leads logically to a far more coherent ending (energybending excluded, that is probably the first step of Avatar's heart of darkness) with an excellent exploration of character.
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That's a good way of putting it. :lol The energybending/lion turtle stuff bothered me even the first time I saw the ATLA finale, and it feels like they've doubled down on the way of thinking that led to energybending in Korra. Although I will say that Korra has made me appreciate ATLA even more.

NB I go back and forth as to whether the comics or Korra bug me more, but I definitely agree that the comics are more fanfictiony.
 
I don't think ATLA is as far ahead of LoK as many here do, however. LoK is doubly disappointing to me because it has potential to be so much better than ATLA. Amon and the non-bending resistance had a lot of promise, but it's shot in cold blood and swept under the rug. The spirit world is at its most fleshed out in LoK but we can't fully appreciate the world building because the characters and storyline are so distracting.

It's why I'm so optimistic for Book 3 and 4, because they have this fantastic and unrealized world that is ripe to be explored on multiple levels, but the writing is holding it back. It needs the focus Book Earth had. Flesh out your characters and focus on one thing. Keep the cast together and make the foils charismatic but defined. And don't rely on random bullshit in the finale.
 
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