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The Man of Steel theme music makes me want to jump off a cliff....

kunonabi

Member
Still don't care for the theme at all then again I got tired of zimmer's stuff long ago.

It still isn't as bad as the rest of the film though.
 
Still don't care for the theme at all then again I got tired of zimmer's stuff long ago.

It still isn't as bad as the rest of the film though.
Awful fucking movie. Snyder is shit.


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Snyder is my Lord and savior

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TrueLegend

Member
The film started amazingly. Everything was going great until the whole Lois Lane thing happened. Lois Lane was written horribly in this movie. The funny thing is she was written well in the second movie but they decided to cut her parts in the theatrical release. This film's amazing first half got crushed by this film's awful second half. Some key bad points

1. Jor El is too alive. They should have given him limited lines to emphasize he is limited consciousness. The way he is written completely destroys the depth of the beginning scene where he sacrifices himself.
2. Jonathan Kent's sacrifice should have been written better. The impact of it should have lasted till Zod ousted Kal El and he becomes superman.
3. Louis was supposed to be a representative of humanity, should have written the part where she is willing to sacrifice herself for superman in a better way and absolutely should have kept Jor EL away from her. Awful writing. Jor El in this movie is like oh you are amazing son but we need a reporter. She will have killed two kryptonians before you have even thought of killing one. Superman could have gone to the Palace of Solitude and had a talk with Jor-El and learned about the Kryptonian ship and phantom drives. But no, let's go to a church cause my movie is gonna be artistic and Jesusy.
4. Miachel Shannen killed as Zod and he should have been given an ambiguous or accidental death like Rash in batman begins. The cringe was too high at that scene. Also change the final kiss with hug. You killed last of your people and now what, you will go bang a girl. What is he, Superman or douche.
 

GeorgioCostanzaX

Gold Member
One of Zimmer's best works, and there's no superhero theme that's been this memorable in the last several years. Even Junkie's work on Snyder Cut was ace. Just see the kind of shit Disney keeps pulling with MCU.

The film started amazingly. Everything was going great until the whole Lois Lane thing happened. Lois Lane was written horribly in this movie. The funny thing is she was written well in the second movie but they decided to cut her parts in the theatrical release. This film's amazing first half got crushed by this film's awful second half. Some key bad points

1. Jor El is too alive. They should have given him limited lines to emphasize he is limited consciousness. The way he is written completely destroys the depth of the beginning scene where he sacrifices himself.
2. Jonathan Kent's sacrifice should have been written better. The impact of it should have lasted till Zod ousted Kal El and he becomes superman.
3. Louis was supposed to be a representative of humanity, should have written the part where she is willing to sacrifice herself for superman in a better way and absolutely should have kept Jor EL away from her. Awful writing. Jor El in this movie is like oh you are amazing son but we need a reporter. She will have killed two kryptonians before you have even thought of killing one. Superman could have gone to the Palace of Solitude and had a talk with Jor-El and learned about the Kryptonian ship and phantom drives. But no, let's go to a church cause my movie is gonna be artistic and Jesusy.
4. Miachel Shannen killed as Zod and he should have been given an ambiguous or accidental death like Rash in batman begins. The cringe was too high at that scene. Also change the final kiss with hug. You killed last of your people and now what, you will go bang a girl. What is he, Superman or douche.
I liked it because it was actually pretty credible in terms of how the public would perceive super man in the modern era. He was flawed not a boy scout and if you take the directors cut of bvs and the Snyder cut of justice league he’s grown. I really do t get why people bag on Snyder when he’s been the victim of shitty notes from equally shitty WB execs.
 

TrueLegend

Member
I liked it because it was actually pretty credible in terms of how the public would perceive super man in the modern era. He was flawed not a boy scout and if you take the directors cut of bvs and the Snyder cut of justice league he’s grown. I really do t get why people bag on Snyder when he’s been the victim of shitty notes from equally shitty WB execs.
Would have given you a cookie if not for the existence of Steve Rogers in MCU. He is perfectly believable and has flaws and it simply shows execution was a problem in DC. Watch The Suicide Squad, the writing is so much better.
 

GeorgioCostanzaX

Gold Member
Would have given you a cookie if not for the existence of Steve Rogers in MCU. He is perfectly believable and has flaws and it simply shows execution was a problem in DC. Watch The Suicide Squad, the writing is so much better.
You can like both it’s okay. And totally agree The Suicide Squad is great Suicide Squad is shit.
 
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Not for me. I also think that the movie was crap and the characterisation of Superman was worse than crap. Snyder just cannot write well. I just want a good Superman movie, people. How hard is it? I want a blue suit too, not dark blue/gray as well.
 

GeekyDad

Gold Member
It's one of those I go back to probably once a year. I liked it quite a lot. The early Superman comics were a bit hokey, and this movie brought that but also a little edge as well. I thought they did a great job translating a comic to the big screen with this one. It wasn't meant to be the Dark Knight. And yeah, I have the full two-disc CD album in my car. Zimmer...have all his stuff. Amazing soundtracks.
 
It's one of those I go back to probably once a year. I liked it quite a lot. The early Superman comics were a bit hokey, and this movie brought that but also a little edge as well. I thought they did a great job translating a comic to the big screen with this one. It wasn't meant to be the Dark Knight. And yeah, I have the full two-disc CD album in my car. Zimmer...have all his stuff. Amazing soundtracks.
I'm imagining you flying down the highway full speed listening to the MOS theme

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also, fukk everyone hating on the movie in the post above mine.
 
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SJRB

Gold Member
Some of these replies are terrible.

Superman discovering his suit, walking out and flying for the first time? Prime real estate right there.

Zod and Faora? Amazing casting, top notch fight sequences.

The entire world engine sequence? Prima kino.

Zimmer soundtrack? S+ tier

Cavil as Superman? Literally PERFECT casting.
 

Relativ9

Member
As far as a Superman movie it's okey, it's not a good movie by any stretch, and the complete disregard for the laws of physics in a movie that's otherwise supposed to be a "grounded" retelling of Superman is a bit jarring. BUT, Superman is a story that will never make a truly amazing movie, I just don't think you can really do that much with a character that ethically perfect. Snyder tried to challenge that idea by making Superman conflicted about his powers, and the good and bad they do, but then he ran into completely going against what the already established character is. At least Man of Steel has some suitably epic visuals and great casting, the action is kind of meh (hard to feel the intensity of a fight when both participants are unhurt-able immortals), but again that's more a problem with the core of the character than the quality of the film.
 
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As far as a Superman movie it's okey, it's not a good movie by any stretch, and the complete disregard for the laws of physics in a movie that's otherwise supposed to be a "grounded" retelling of Superman is a bit jarring. BUT, Superman is a story that will never make a truly amazing movie, I just don't think you can really do that much with a character that ethically perfect. Snyder tried to challenge that idea by making Superman conflicted about his powers, and the good and bad they do, but then he ran into completely going against what the already established character is. At least Man of Steel has some suitably epic visuals and great casting, the action is kind of meh (hard to feel the intensity of a fight when both participants are unhurt-able immortals), but again that's more a problem with the core of the character than the quality of the film.
They never say it, but I always like to imagine that Krypton is a place that mastered reality control, and from there spawn superman's powers, particularly his silver age repertoire.
 

Thirty7ven

Banned
It’s not a good Superman movie, but if it were called “Super Alien” it would be a cool action movie.
 
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just more along the lines of district 9 cgi

man of steel was a straight up cartoon in many scenes
I think effects were decent, people couldn't detect the quite different doubles in movies of old, the cg was far less offensive than doubles of old. The effects didn't take me out of the movie.

The metal effects on iron man and iron spider man took me out of Infinity war, and that had a far bigger budget, you still can't expect much from human artists on a very limited time and money budget.
 
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oagboghi2

Member
Would have given you a cookie if not for the existence of Steve Rogers in MCU. He is perfectly believable and has flaws and it simply shows execution was a problem in DC. Watch The Suicide Squad, the writing is so much better.
Suicide squad? The one that just came out?

way to kill your credibility
 

Thirty7ven

Banned
There are many takes on superman, superman need not always stay close to the mold of boy scout.

If you do a red son like, sure. Otherwise he has achieved iconic status to the point where everyone knows who Superman is, not just what he is but how he is. That’s why this interpretation of Superman didn’t work.

It’s actually pointless when you think about it, Superman isn’t supposed to be all things. The problem is thinking that you need to change who he is to tell a new story.
 
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If you do a red son like, sure. Otherwise he has achieved iconic status to the point where everyone knows who Superman is, not just what he is but how he is. That’s why this interpretation of Superman didn’t work.

It’s actually pointless when you think about it, Superman isn’t supposed to be all things. The problem is thinking that you need to change who he is to tell a new story.
I will give you it was sloppy way to handle the no kill rule with Zod. But realistically the heavy damage and high death toll is innevitable in a battle of superbeings.

And as happened to neo in matrix 2, sooner or later you'll be faced with moral dilemmas, like the love of your life or the world. Sooner or later you will have to make the choice to kill or not kill and that choice will have consequences. Batman not killing the Joker after he escapes time and again from any confinement and goes on a killing spree time and again, he's responsible. He should at least incapacitate the joker so he becomes permanently disabled.
 

K' Dash

Member
People complaining about Supes not saving *everybody* and "causing" destruction always make me laugh.

What did you expect from 2 demigods fighting to kill each other?
 

Thirty7ven

Banned
I will give you it was sloppy way to handle the no kill rule with Zod. But realistically the heavy damage and high death toll is innevitable in a battle of superbeings.

And as happened to neo in matrix 2, sooner or later you'll be faced with moral dilemmas, like the love of your life or the world. Sooner or later you will have to make the choice to kill or not kill and that choice will have consequences. Batman not killing the Joker after he escapes time and again from any confinement and goes on a killing spree time and again, he's responsible. He should at least incapacitate the joker so he becomes permanently disabled.

Always keep in mind that the writer holds the power, the pen draws the context. You don’t have to write the character into a corner, and if you do it’s your mission to make sure it stays true to character. It’s very normal for people to forget this, that these characters aren’t real, they are ideas.

If the choice is to kill, then the consequence must destroy Superman, the ultimate sacrifice. Because that’s the death of the character as you know it.
 
that these characters aren’t real, they are ideas.
optimus prime, superman, captain america, captain planet, the ideal leader, they are real in a platonic sense, and ideas are as real as flesh and blood. The ideal leader can be embodied to an extent by many leaders in many places throughout history. But it is rare for the real to match the ideal, for the imperfect to reach perfection. But it is not impossible for there to exist ideal leaders, and at most these symbolic representations would be but artistic representations of the embodiment of the ideal.

I do believe that people can live up to the ideal, and that the ideal can manifest physically. Myths may come to be built, but underneath the heroes, upon which legend is built, can be just as legendary as the legends they inspired.
 
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Konnor

Member
It’s not a good Superman movie, but if it were called “Super Alien” it would be a cool action movie.

Why is that even an issue? Who gives a fuck as long as the movie is good? Superman was never an interesting character anyway if you ask me, he's the Mary Sue of superheroes.
 
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