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The Official Halo 3 Thread
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Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Tashi0106 said:
LOL good luck
Creed stole the blood tube HAHA
SweetTea023 said:
Word is that the save film rendering goodness will be entering into a smallish beta very soon and slowly grow outward from there. Yes, in retrospect it was probably announced a bit prematurely.
The delays aren't related to podcast hosting woes. There are existing options but they come with stipulations and conditions that are less than desirable to some of us.
(If anyone knows anyone who has loads of bandwidth and wants to host an oversized mp3 file once or twice a month for Recon and some promotion, do tell).
Mr. Enigma
Member
Willeth said:
In Internet Explorer, the code will paste all the way in instead of you having to do it in sections.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
ManCannon said:
Check PMs, please.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
kylej said:
New map!
Phaeton (link to file share) Slot 4
I decided after finishing the previous map that I wanted to do something a little smaller scale, and use the tubes to do something neat.
So basically, this map is a skewed figure eight, with one level up above, crossing over the other. Here's an overview shot, but its a little hard to tell where things are.
So the top is easily accessible through a few different ways. There are tubes that slope up into the ends of the "flower" structure up top, as well as ramps that lead up there on opposite sides. There is a bridge structure down below that houses the rockets, and there is a sniper that spawns on the edges of the platforms (near the end of the ramps).
Over the tunnels that lead to the area seen above are a couple of windows, so the team above can slow the enemy team down just a little bit.
The bases themselves are just simple rooms, not terribly unlike the base rooms on Foundation in Halo 2, but with a little bit more elevation differences to spice it up and hopefully protect spawners from grenade spam.
Its a little bit bigger than these pictures look, it is just a little difficult to get a screenshot that shows too much since so much of the map is enclosed. I've got it set up for all the major team gametypes, and I think it will play well with anywhere from 4 to 12 players.
Lessons learned: Tubes do not like to play nice with each other in terms of fitting together, if you use the default objects be prepared to have them disappear on you and not return, and indoor maps are really hard.
Again, my gamertag is Havok CXVII, feel free to send friend requests and whatnot. I'd also love to get some feedback.
Phaeton (link to file share) Slot 4
I decided after finishing the previous map that I wanted to do something a little smaller scale, and use the tubes to do something neat.
So basically, this map is a skewed figure eight, with one level up above, crossing over the other. Here's an overview shot, but its a little hard to tell where things are.
So the top is easily accessible through a few different ways. There are tubes that slope up into the ends of the "flower" structure up top, as well as ramps that lead up there on opposite sides. There is a bridge structure down below that houses the rockets, and there is a sniper that spawns on the edges of the platforms (near the end of the ramps).
Over the tunnels that lead to the area seen above are a couple of windows, so the team above can slow the enemy team down just a little bit.
The bases themselves are just simple rooms, not terribly unlike the base rooms on Foundation in Halo 2, but with a little bit more elevation differences to spice it up and hopefully protect spawners from grenade spam.
Its a little bit bigger than these pictures look, it is just a little difficult to get a screenshot that shows too much since so much of the map is enclosed. I've got it set up for all the major team gametypes, and I think it will play well with anywhere from 4 to 12 players.
Lessons learned: Tubes do not like to play nice with each other in terms of fitting together, if you use the default objects be prepared to have them disappear on you and not return, and indoor maps are really hard.
Again, my gamertag is Havok CXVII, feel free to send friend requests and whatnot. I'd also love to get some feedback.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Kibbles said:
That's the code used to tighten up the graphics on level 3.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Havok, that looks like a sweet ass map. Is it for a specific gametype?
The Librarian
Banned
Beef Jerky Surprise!
Bungie must have figured it would work better with a less accurate spread, I guess.kylej said:
I don't particularly buy the reasoning behind some people's arguments that unpredictability is a detriment to skilled play, mainly because they typically highlight one skillset (aiming) and ignore all the rest. Along with aiming (and situational awareness etc), truly skilled players should be the ones that can adapt when the chips are down, not the ones who can only jerk the fastest and get the first headshot in a fight.
I some "palooka" runs over somebody with a warthog, a skilled player should realize that the player who killed them made all the right decisions:
- Escalation (Why bring a BR to a BR fight when you have a flying wall of steel?)
- Good situational awareness (they saw an opportunity and leveraged it, while you saw an opportunity to escape or redirect their attack and failed to leverage it)
- Good target prioritizing (Most of the targets probably have grenades and somebody might have a heavy weapon, so whoever gets a splatter within that narrow window has earned it)
Captain Blood said:
I've had a team come back from being down 10 kills or so to bring it back - we were spawn-trapped (don't think it was intentional) till their Hog either got stuck in the back and got Brute-shotted to death or grenaded, I didn't get to see it go down as I took cover in the back of our base trying to warn the other teammates to do the same till a power weapon or bubble shield spawned...
And the match where it worked on our side, we rounded the perimeter of the map, crossing through the middle, making figure 8's through the map till we got taken out by a rocket - but we had a good spree going while it lasted...
So I guess it can dominate, but can be put to an end in fair amount of ways too, so the Hog's not really overpowered nor is it a problem on the map, which is balanced well...
Well I have resigned myself to waiting for the marketplace launch of the mythic maps. I didn't win any of the various contests, and I don't have an MLG trigger finger to F5 the bungie site and hope an update has a code in it :lol
I do hope a bunch of sandbox variants are suitable for doubles, I think the playlist needs a serious boost of map variety, and I play it a lot. (I also think some of the objective variants are poor in doubles, and the ones that work are infrequent, but that has nothing to do with map variety).
Are any of the mythic maps suitable for doubles? I am interested in your opinions.
All your guy's variants look fun, and I am especially looking forward to bumper hogs :lol
I do hope a bunch of sandbox variants are suitable for doubles, I think the playlist needs a serious boost of map variety, and I play it a lot. (I also think some of the objective variants are poor in doubles, and the ones that work are infrequent, but that has nothing to do with map variety).
Are any of the mythic maps suitable for doubles? I am interested in your opinions.
All your guy's variants look fun, and I am especially looking forward to bumper hogs :lol
RunWhiteBoyRun
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Anyone got any idea's who/where might have a Halo Wars LE still left? My roommate is going absolutely nuts waiting on the new maps and he's hours away from spending $50 on Ebay just for the code. At least if he get's the LE he can sell the game.
xxjuicesxx
Member
RunWhiteBoyRun said:
Yo tell him to BUY the Halo Wars LE from buy.com for 67 I believe after tax. He can use the code then sell Halo Wars for ~$45-50 on eBay. For a total of 17 dollars for the maps.
RunWhiteBoyRun
Member
xxjuicesxx said:
Hmm that's an awesome deal. Sadly, he is so impatient he doesn't wanna wait til Tuesday to get it, it wants to play it tonight or tomorrow. He's hyped for it obviously.
sixthsubset
Banned
Botolf said:
id like to believe that there are other ways to bring more depth into the game than making aiming more random.
(i dont care about the br spread, im over it, and so are most mlg players who don't suck)
urk said:
What if my headache is thiiiiiiiiiiiiis big?
Amazon still has Halo Wars LCE in-stock last I looked, but if he wants it locally he's probably out of luck aside from maybe Best Buy? Gamestop doesn't even have it listed on their site anymore new or used, so I can't even see if local stores have it.
RunWhiteBoyRun
Member
SailorDaravon said:
He gave it a shot, called all around town. Not too surprising results.
Well, it is Microsoft.INTERNET said:
Two questions:
1) Can the skulls on the Mythic maps be found by flying around in a saved film? My daughter wants to hunt for them that way, but I'm not sure if we can see them.
2) So, I'm forging a new map on Sandbox, this time trying to merge objects for the first time. I've done the first three, and when I try to do the next, something strange is happening. I'll set the object to not appear at the start of the round, and then reset the round. And when the next one starts, the object is there physically. But it's turned off-color, I can't select it to check attributes, move etc. It's there physically but not in a way I can interact with, rather than appearing 30 seconds into the round. This is happening for all objects now. Is this a known issue, something that happens after three things are merged? Not sure what to do.
xxjuicesxx
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Botolf said:
The thing I dislike is the leading of shots. For example the AR doesn't ever need to be lead yet the BR does. Do BR bullets travel slower? The weapons need to be consistent. I understand the weapons that you can SEE the bullets travel like spiker, needler, rockets. Carbine doesn't need to be lead to my knowledge. So what gives?
I also dislike the fact that there's no distance measurement to when and how much to lead, and not only that its unquantifiable but it changes depending on the amount of latency which you also can not see. (WoW allows you to see the latency # why can't Halo 3?). This leads not to a "oh hes that far I have to do this to hit him" but to a "oh my shots aren't hitting fuck this spread"
What I'm saying is I would gladly welcome the depth if it made ANY sense. It was very badly implemented into the game to bring a level of realism that frankly doesn't need to be there (considering its a sci-fi futuristic VIDEO GAME). Sadly H3 is the best out there so I'll continue to get on and yell at the BR spread while semi-pwning.
1. i think soGhaleonEB said:
2. the objects you are merging when you get the weirdness are the objects that are on the original sandbox (the ones voc so nicely clumped together on his prep maps). for so reason these blocks are glitched. i find that putting them on a 60 sec respawn helps because they usually will disappear in about 30 secs giving you time to do whatever merge you want to do.
xxjuicesxx
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GhaleonEB said:
That's cheating. You have to build really long tunnels to protect you from the laser in order to find them.
sixthsubset
Banned
Botolf said:
so make the other strategies more reliable instead of making one less so, and watering down the game
You don't have to lead the AR because it is useless at the range that leading is necessary (and yes you can lead AR fire, its not a hit-scan weapon). You don't really have to lead the BR at AR range, as long as your foe isn't evading. I think of it like wind in affecting your golf swing, you know its there, you know you need to adjust, and the better you are the better you will be able to adjust n the fly, but you will never control the wind, and a little luck is always going to be a factor.xxjuicesxx said:The thing I dislike is the leading of shots. For example the AR doesn't ever need to be lead yet the BR does. Do BR bullets travel slower? The weapons need to be consistent. I understand the weapons that you can SEE the bullets travel like spiker, needler, rockets. Carbine doesn't need to be lead to my knowledge. So what gives?
I also dislike the fact that there's no distance measurement to when and how much to lead, and not only that its unquantifiable but it changes depending on the amount of latency which you also can not see. (WoW allows you to see the latency # why can't Halo 3?). This leads not to a "oh hes that far I have to do this to hit him" but to a "oh my shots aren't hitting fuck this spread"
What I'm saying is I would gladly welcome the depth if it made ANY sense. It was very badly implemented into the game to bring a level of realism that frankly doesn't need to be there (considering its a sci-fi futuristic VIDEO GAME). Sadly H3 is the best out there so I'll continue to get on and yell at the BR spread while semi-pwning.
Frankly if it did not spread, and had instant bullet velocity, it would have to be a weaker weapon.
Good points on the lead and latency. I guess all my musings are relegated to "on paper" currently :lolxxjuicesxx said:The thing I dislike is the leading of shots. For example the AR doesn't ever need to be lead yet the BR does. Do BR bullets travel slower? The weapons need to be consistent. I understand the weapons that you can SEE the bullets travel like spiker, needler, rockets. Carbine doesn't need to be lead to my knowledge. So what gives?
I also dislike the fact that there's no distance measurement to when and how much to lead, and not only that its unquantifiable but it changes depending on the amount of latency which you also can not see. (WoW allows you to see the latency # why can't Halo 3?). This leads not to a "oh hes that far I have to do this to hit him" but to a "oh my shots aren't hitting fuck this spread"
What I'm saying is I would gladly welcome the depth if it made ANY sense. It was very badly implemented into the game to bring a level of realism that frankly doesn't need to be there (considering its a sci-fi futuristic VIDEO GAME). Sadly H3 is the best out there so I'll continue to get on and yell at the BR spread while semi-pwning.
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