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The Official Kanye West - "808s & Heartbreak" Album Thread of Lockin Down Love

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Oozer3993

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Alternate Cover:

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iTunes and KAWS Special Christmas Packaging Cover:

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Kanye West's 4th studio album, "808s and Heartbreak," was released on November 21st in some European countries (including Denmark and Germany) and November 24th in North America. The album is a marked departure for Kanye. It was finished over 3 weeks in Hawaii and was made in response to the death of his mother, Donda West, in November 2007 and the breakup of his relationship with fiance Alexis Phifer. Kanye decided early on that every song was to feature Kanye singing with the use of Auto-Tune and the TRS-808, an electronic drum machine. The first 10 tracks of the album deal with his breakup with Alexis while the 11th track, Coldest Winter, is about the death of his mother. The final track, Pinocchio Story, is a freestyle he performed during a concert in Singapore. It was added to the tracklist just before the album was sent to manufacturing, supposedly at the behest of Beyonce Knowles. The story goes that she heard the freestyle and liked it so much that she bugged Kanye to include it on the album. Kanye has stated that he wishes the album to be classified as pop because, as he said, "People think pop is bad, but Michael Jackson was pop and who can compare to him?" The album is now available for purchase at iTunes with an exclusive video of Pinocchio Story. It is also available from the Amazon MP3 store.

A version of the album with "special christmas packaging" artwork by artist KAWS will be released on December 16th (source). This artwork will apparently also be included with the album on iTunes. A sample of the new artwork is below:

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Tracklisting:

1. Say You Will
2. Welcome to Heartbreak (ft. Kid Cudi)
3. Heartless
4. Amazing (ft. Young Jeezy)
5. Love Lockdown
6. “Paranoid (ft. Mr. Hudson)”
7. Robocop
8. Street Lights
9. Real Bad News
10. See You In My Nightmares (ft. Lil Wayne)
11. Coldest Winter
12. Pinocchio Story

The tracklist is slightly different for people who preorder the album through iTunes:

11. Coldest Winter
12. Pinocchio Story (Live Freestyle in Singapore)
14. Pinocchio Story (Exclusive Video)
15. Heartless (Video)

Welcome To Heartbreak has strings from Jon Brion and Herbie Hancock contributed to Robocop.

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1st Single: Love Lockdown

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The first single is "Love Lockdown," which he premiered during the closing performance of the 2008 MTV VMAs. He posted a studio version of the song on his blog several days later. Kanye claims he wrote the song 2 weeks before the VMAs and that it's his favorite song that he's written to date. After fans complained about the chorus being hard to understand in the version posted to his blog, Kanye announced that he had redone the track, completely re-singing it and changing the taiko drums and posted this version on his blog the next day. Kanye posted a new mix of the song, believed to be the final one, to his blog in November.

The video was shot in early September and features a juxtaposition of Kanye, alone in a white room, with an angry Africa tribe. He premiered the video on Ellen on October 7th and it went up on iTunes that night.

2nd Single: Heartless

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Kanye performed parts of this song during different tour stops in August and September before revealing that it was the second single during a surprise appearance at a T.I. concert. Kanye posted an unmastered version of the song on his blog (WARNING: Link is NSFW) on October 15th. It was added to the iTunes Music Store on November 4th. The video was leaked on November 7th and Kanye posted a clear version to his blog later that day. The video is patterned after the movie "American Pop" and both feature full rotoscoping of live action video, where each frame is traced over with animation. Kanye posted a newly mixed version of the song, believed to be the final one, on his blog in November.

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Guardian (UK) 4/5 Stars

It might seem harsh but let's hope he doesn't find too much happiness in the meantime. Loneliness is proving quite the muse.

Billboard

In the end, it seems that no matter how pained West is, as long as his one true love—himself—is intact, he will prevail in the face of adversity.

URB Magazine 3.5/5 Stars

In the landscape of 808, Kanye’s aspirations for fame have created a mutually exclusive dichotomy with family and love. His robot isn’t quirky and futuristic, it’s depressed and mired in the bloated consequences of past decisions.

Chicago Sun Times 3/4 Stars

If West had interspersed the more mechanical tracks with some that were the exact opposite--say, simple piano interludes provided by his old collaborators John Legend or Jon Brion--he might have made a masterpiece. Instead, he's merely given us an extremely intriguing, sporadically gripping, undeniably fearless and altogether unexpected piece of his troubled soul.

Times Online (UK) 5/5 Stars

A bizarre, brave and brilliant album.

USA Today 4/4 Stars

His career has been built on pushing boundaries and expanding possibilities. This time, the Louis Vuitton Don does it by stripping away the celebrity trappings and exposing his naked emotions.

Newsday A

With "808s & Heartbreak," West tears down all the bad habits that have crept in during his previous three albums and builds something bold and new in their place. His current musical vision may be dark, but it can also be beautiful.

Washington Post

All of that goes flying out the window today with the release of "808s & Heartbreak," an album so exquisite, so assured, it threatens to invent an entirely new strand of urban pop music. And not "urban" as in "music industry code for 'black,' " but urban in the sense that West is exploring the isolation, paranoia and longing of 21st-century city life. The result is the best album released this year, an information-age masterpiece about falling into the depths of loneliness while a nation of millions checks your blog for updates.

Prefix Magazine 9/10

His larger goal has always been to make music that transcends time and society, so now that he’s climbed high enough to jump off of these tall cliffs, he’s going to take full advantage

Delusions of Adequacy

One thing to note about West is that he knows what he is doing — with every album, every new direction, every interesting move, he seems to be a few steps ahead of the hip-hop game. And it’s with his latest masterpiece, 808s & Heartbreak, that he has demonstrated, with impeccable skill, that he is supreme, yet again.

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ZeoVGM

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I know the auto-tuning thing is overdone, but really, it still sounds fucking awesome in some songs.

And I fully believe Kanye will make it work, if "Love Lockdown" is any indication.
 

Christopher

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so he did away with the college theme?

Can he top his last album...I don't know that was a pretty damn good quality album
 
Wow, that's a strange song.
Is it actually Kanye who's singing this? Like, singing, not rapping? I'm listening to love lockdown on the blog from the OP, and I'm having a hard time believing this is Kanye.


Either way. It's....different. Kind of like it.
 

ZeoVGM

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Christopher said:
so he did away with the college theme?

Can he top his last album...I don't know that was a pretty damn good quality album

His best, I think. Lyrically, probably his weakest, but his flow and the HOLY SHIT AWESOME beats easily made up for it.
 

Dali

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Was both surprised and interested until I read this:
Oozer3993 said:
He worked with T-Pain in some way on the album...
and I became much less interested, almost to the point of indifference. Then I continued to read this:
... and it will apparently feature auto-tuning on most songs.
and my indifference turned into confusion and hatred. Of course this is based on the assumption that auto tuning is that annoying, over-used filter, or whatever you call it, that makes people that can't sing sound like a robot that can't sing.

edit:

Listened to the track on the Kanye blog in the OP. Yeah I'm thinking fuck this shit. Fake ass, Andre 3000 wanna be. Fucking learn to play an instrument and how to really sing then come back with your experimental stuff.
 

Oldschoolgamer

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Omfg...fuck auto-tune. Jesus. This thread single handily got me hyped and destroyed my hopes in the damned OP. First Common is on that halfway pop shit and now Kanye is doing this fucking auto-tune. God damn. :(

Why?! This song sounded terrible, especially considering all of the other stuff he has done. The lyrics sound hot, but, damn that shit with his voice. It makes me ignore whatever he has to say at this point, because it's been used so damned much. I like the beat, but, if this song is any indication, this will be the first Kanye album I pass on.

Edit: I hope he doesn't use that stupid as filter the whole album. Please...

Edit Edit: Damn, I'm making stupid ass errors in my sentences. Wtf @ this song. I can't do shit other than shake my head and facepalm at the same time.
 
Meh.

I haven't hears any of the new songs, but i'm sure I know what to expect: Terrific beats, HORRENDOUS monotone flow. Every Kanye song sounds the same, which makes the albums hard to listen to.
 

Gattsu25

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that t-pain shit needs to end. listened to love lockdown...if even another song has that auto-tune crap then this will also be my first skipped kanye album
 

Matt_C

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Dang this has a house vibe, waiting for a killer remix of this. Very interesting choice for Kanye. I guess the time spent with Daft Punk has changed his career. I wonder if he would do some rapping in "808s and Heartbreak". At least we have a CRS album in the pipeline.
 

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Calcaneus

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I kinda like the song, but I wonder how much better it would be with him producing it for a real singer.

At least I can expect a fun little album.
 

JimiNutz

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Oh man I was excited to hear some new Kanye but I really don't like this Love Lockdown track.
It's so corny and is just Kanye crooning :(
I'll still check out the album but this track is a big disappointment for me personally
 

Mau ®

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The VMA version was better. This studio version feels very... demo-ish.

I like the name of the album at least...
 

Baby Milo

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yeah love daft

but i dont think kanye would be doing this if t-pain made it pop and wayne and everyone else hopped on the trend
 

Mau ®

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You know, Ive only listened to the studio verson once (I didnt quite like it... will prolly warm to it) but damn the chorus is stuck in my brain.

I really like the lyrics. I can relate.
 
Everyone having meltdowns over T-Pain's involvement have to remember: Kanye is still producing the shit (doing the beats). Did you guys not like that Good Life song?
 

Dali

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Askia47 said:
The song sounded okay, but im not a big kanye fan. whats wrong with auto tune? it would make to processed?
What's wrong with it? It sounds like shit. It makes for an interesting sound to use in one song as a gimmick. It's already played out by people who base their entire career around the effect so we really don't need another album that relies on it, especially by someone who does better music without it. Also in a lot of cases (such as this one) it's just used to hide someone's lack of real singing ability. It's just a bad idea. It seems like he is forcing his creativity, but he doesn't have the talent to bring anything worthwhile outside of his comfort zone to fruition. That's why I say give it time, learn to play real instruments, learn to really sing, a writing class wouldn't hurt either, Kanye. He's trying to hang with NERD and the Love Below, but he really isn't on that level yet.


Edit: Of course he could just be trying to hang with T-Pain. In that case I guess he's right where he needs to be.
 
I'm a fan of Kanye but I think he might be putting out too many albums too fast. Graduation was probably my least favorite Kanye album yet. With his first being my favorite. His second album a close second. And Graduation, just plain third.
 

Dartastic

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When I heard this song during the VMA's I thought it was crap. I still think it's crap. I don't really even write any songs, and I could write a better song and sing better than this. His voice sounds TERRIBLE. And what is that clapping in the background? Ick. And he seems to think this is his favorite (and I assume by that logic, best) song? HA!
 

btkadams

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Baby Milo said:
terrible song

and fuck you kanye for hopping on this t-pain trend for a whole album
i doubt it will be him singing the whole album, the rest is probably just rapping as usual. i really like the song, but id be a bit disappointed if he didnt rap on other songs.. but i mean come on guys. HE's A RAPPER, hes going to want to do what he likes, so a whole record of singing and no rapping is not gonna happen. come on kanye dont prove me wrong
 
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