Yeah, I'll have to agree with most of the folks here that Maddow done fucked up. Gillespie is a leather jacket wearing dick, but it was a completely legitimate question (even Maher thought so) and there was no reason for her to go off on him like that. Made her seem amazingly childish.
Also, why does she wear those stupid glasses every time she's on Maher's show?
And Mort Zuckerman's generally an idiot too, but it's a shame he didn't speak much. Though I must say, I was surprised to see him support single payer.
Gillespie and Zuckerman were informed on the issue. Maher admitted he didn't even know what the scandal was about until a week ago. He looked bad saying Issa brought it up to him a year ago, but since he doesn't live in a bubble like Issa, he didn't know what it was back then either. Maher is not as informed as he likes to think. The fast and furious thing has been in the news for the last year. His quip about Congress holding Holder in contempt for being black while holding the position of attorney general was dumb, but it's par for Maher, at least he was trying to make a joke.
The Fast and Furious shit was only being covered by right wing media at the time. Of course if one didn't live in their bubble, then obviously one wouldn't know about it.
But Maddow was just embarrassingly partisan and idiotic bringing up that wild tangent about conspiracy theories and the 2nd amendment shit as the "real" reason for investigating Holder. Where did she come up with that ?
Actually, that one's not a conspiracy theory. Maddow backed that up with lots of footage from congressman (including Issa) saying that Obama allowed this to happen so that he could repeal the second amendment.
He comes off as being a lot more independent than Maddow. Most libertarians would probably vote for the Republican candidate over a Democrat, but calling it a wing of the republican party is not that accurate.
Anecdotal evidence, but I have literally not met a single person (online or real life) who considers themselves "libertarian", that's ever decided to vote for a democrat. It seems that the social and civil issues never, EVER outweigh the economic issues for these folk.