JareBear: Remastered
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Extraction was pretty good, right? Maybe Netflix is on a roll?
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"The Old Guard" - Netflix sci-fi super-powered action flick, starring Charlize Theron, coming on July 10th
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Extraction was pretty good, right? Maybe Netflix is on a roll?
hyperbertha
Member
Oh good. We were running out of strong women.
(JK I like Charlize)
(JK I like Charlize)
AquaticSquirrel
Member
Neflix....Charlize Theron...."Strong Women".... nah I'm out!
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
This ACTUALLY looks pretty good.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
#CancelCunth
Extraction was pretty good, hopefully Netflix is building momentum
SometimeLaterToday
Member
Where's Jason Bateman and Will Smith?
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
I would be down for Hancock 2
Slings and Arrows
Banned
I've never seen Charlie look anything but smoking fucking hot. Even with a shaved head and one arm I would have rattled her.
What's this about a TV show?
What's this about a TV show?
GeorgPrime
Banned
"Led by a warrior called Andy (Charlize Theron)"
So they literally called her "Man"?
Andy comes from "Andreas" which stems from greek words "alexein" (guarding) and "aner" (man)
Netflix like "She is a badass woman... so let us give her a male name.".
I would just give her a cool female name to increase the fact that she is a female badass.
But that aside... looks good
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JareBear: Remastered
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"Led by a warrior called Andy (Charlize Theron)"
So they literally called her "Man"?
Andy comes from "Andreas" which stems from greek words "alexein" (guarding) and "aner" (man)
Netflix like "She is a badass woman... so let us give her a male name".
GeorgPrime
Banned
Stiflers Mom
Banned
Are you aware of the existence of the name 'Andrea'?"Led by a warrior called Andy (Charlize Theron)"
So they literally called her "Man"?
Andy comes from "Andreas" which stems from greek words "alexein" (guarding) and "aner" (man)
Netflix like "She is a badass woman... so let us give her a male name.".
I would just give her a cool female name to increase the fact that she is a female badass.
But that aside... looks good
I even personally know a girl whose nick name is 'Andie'.
It's not that uncommon..
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GeorgPrime
Banned
Jeah it comes from european origin and the meaning of Andrea is "strong and manly".
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
I'll give it a run, looks solid on production values and Charlize doesn't miss often.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I liked it. Didn't seem too woke to me. It was better IMO than Warrior Nun.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
I guess the "Hancuck" joke has been done already, hasn't it?
$70 million budget? Wow. Must’ve been mostly spent on Charlize Theron and Chiwetel Ejiofor, because the visual effects are direct to DVD level, green screens everywhere rather than the on-location shots you’d expect with a real budget, visually flat. The whole thing feels amateur hour. Why is a scene in the interior of a humvee in the desert faked? Why is a prop plane taking off entirely bad CG? Interior of the plane where they play out a full scene, also a glaringly obvious green screen composite. Some of the laziest filmmaking I’ve seen in a big budget production.
Action is all digital blood and manipulated frame rate as a crutch, no weight or visual identity or tension or style to any sequence.
The squad of immortals don’t act like they’ve been alive for centuries or millennia at all. There’s a lot you can do with that premise and it can be conveyed with subtlety (e.g. Only Lovers Left Alive). Bland characters with zero personality instead.
There’s a scene with some big pharma exec guy doing a presentation in front of a captivated audience, and there sounds like an audio clip that repeats for the fake applause in between his lines. The Onion’s satirical TED talks are better executed.
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Action is all digital blood and manipulated frame rate as a crutch, no weight or visual identity or tension or style to any sequence.
The squad of immortals don’t act like they’ve been alive for centuries or millennia at all. There’s a lot you can do with that premise and it can be conveyed with subtlety (e.g. Only Lovers Left Alive). Bland characters with zero personality instead.
There’s a scene with some big pharma exec guy doing a presentation in front of a captivated audience, and there sounds like an audio clip that repeats for the fake applause in between his lines. The Onion’s satirical TED talks are better executed.
0/10
GeorgPrime
Banned
I saw it on my PS 4 today and thought "From where i know this?" xD
Now i remembered.... it was he woman which was called "Strong Man"
Neolombax
Member
Watched it last night. The first act had me pretty interested. Started losing interest towards the 3rd act of the movie. When the pharma stuff kicked in I was waiting for the movie to end. Fight scenes were okay, nothing special. Has all the staples of a Netflix movie, representation for everyone and all that.
My biggest takeaway from that movie was that the main villain, was actually Dudley from the Harry Potter movies.
My biggest takeaway from that movie was that the main villain, was actually Dudley from the Harry Potter movies.
jonnyp
Member
Indeed. It's an abomination of a movie.
Pretty bad, mainly because it feels like, if not was, a pilot for a TV show. It is all build up, no resolution. No myth building, no character arcs, the "viewer POV" character has little screentime. Why was the pharma guy such a dick? How exactly were Highlander folks supposed to be biological instead of supernatural? They literally set up the shows episodic structure in the last 5 minutes. Then they have "the twist" for no goddamned reason IN A MOVIE. WTF????
I get this is a comic book property. Is this the first one from the Hit Girl guy?
All it made me want to do is watch Highlander, which is virtually the same movie with 1000% better everything.
And the fight scenes are bad. They try to do Wick/Raid stuff but it is lazy. They cap a guy in the head but then do a body throw afterwards for no reason. You just blew his brains out! At least the gun handling is decent and some of the knife work was ok.
I get this is a comic book property. Is this the first one from the Hit Girl guy?
All it made me want to do is watch Highlander, which is virtually the same movie with 1000% better everything.
And the fight scenes are bad. They try to do Wick/Raid stuff but it is lazy. They cap a guy in the head but then do a body throw afterwards for no reason. You just blew his brains out! At least the gun handling is decent and some of the knife work was ok.
Insane Metal
Member
I couldn't finish it... too woke for me and I don't even care about it that much... also the action is pretty bad. Avoid it guys
Weiji
Banned
The scene where they fight on the plane was fun. I liked the idea of that lady forever trapped at the bottom of the ocean drowning, though I’m doubtful that Iron Maiden would last 1,000 years. I wish that idea had been expanded on. (Its A small part of a flash back)
The rest of this movie was boring as hell.
Also that was the weakest main villain I’ve seen in a long time.
D+ would not recommend.
The rest of this movie was boring as hell.
Also that was the weakest main villain I’ve seen in a long time.
D+ would not recommend.
Mitsuda Maniac
Member
BS ultra-woke movie. Literally every straight white male is a villain or turncoat. Gotta love how they excommunicate the white guy (who has been on their team forever) for a hundred years while simultaneously forming an alliance with the black guy who just betrayed them and ask him to keep their secret *pretty please*
Did you not finish the movie? The end scene makes no sense in a movie unless it has a sequel already in the works.
LisaMariaMartin
Banned
The action is pretty bad compared to john wick or kingsmen. The stuff about her former lover being trapped was interesting, though the nerfed iron maiden got a chuckle out of me. Why no spikes?
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I enjoyed Warrior Nun, wasn't the full on pulpy nonsense fun I was expecting, but it moved along nicely and the plot mostly made sense. Didn't hurt that the lead was very attractive.
and 3 others
Banned
Watched this Saturday with my ex, and 1st thing I asked (a loud rhetorically) who's gay in this movie? We enjoyed it for what it was. Although i called almost every thing, including the dude who betrayed the team, the end, and how a sequel would be set up.
SirKicksalot
Member
This movie looks and sounds like the pandemic affected its post-production. There's some unfinished CGI and the music must be licensed because they couldn't record a proper score.
It's one of the better Netflix originals IMO.
It's one of the better Netflix originals IMO.
Saw this the day of release and found it to be mediocre.
It’s a 2 hour long movie with little meat and whose key plot elements you’ve likely already seen before. There should be no twists that you didn’t see coming from a mile away.
The dialogue and action is also unmemorable. What should be an intense action scene from Charlize Theron is more like a comical ballet as armoured soldiers fall down the moment a sword touches them. The shooting scenes could easily be outclassed by fan made films.
There are also unexplained or inexplicable plot elements like how they managed to drive a body in a Humvee from a US base or shooting yourself in a booted foot to demonstrate you’re one of the immortals (How would anyone tell your booted foot regenerated? How do you know someone who believes in immortals from first hand accounts even needs proof?)
There’s also very little lore building even though they wasted time setting up a sequel. You actually get more character background info in an episode of Highlander than 2 hours of this film.
You know how this movie’s plot could have been entirely avoided?
Don’t have a bunch of mooks killed to prove your theory that immortals exist only to send a bunch of other mooks to capture them later. You can prove and capture at the same time.
It makes no sense but don’t expect anything intelligent with this film.
It’s a 2 hour long movie with little meat and whose key plot elements you’ve likely already seen before. There should be no twists that you didn’t see coming from a mile away.
The dialogue and action is also unmemorable. What should be an intense action scene from Charlize Theron is more like a comical ballet as armoured soldiers fall down the moment a sword touches them. The shooting scenes could easily be outclassed by fan made films.
There are also unexplained or inexplicable plot elements like how they managed to drive a body in a Humvee from a US base or shooting yourself in a booted foot to demonstrate you’re one of the immortals (How would anyone tell your booted foot regenerated? How do you know someone who believes in immortals from first hand accounts even needs proof?)
There’s also very little lore building even though they wasted time setting up a sequel. You actually get more character background info in an episode of Highlander than 2 hours of this film.
You know how this movie’s plot could have been entirely avoided?
Don’t have a bunch of mooks killed to prove your theory that immortals exist only to send a bunch of other mooks to capture them later. You can prove and capture at the same time.
It makes no sense but don’t expect anything intelligent with this film.
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Fbh
Member
Saw it the other day.
I thought it was ok for a Netflix original movie (which lets be honest, is basically the modern "straight to dvd").
Wasn't great but it sets up a sequel which I'd still take the time to watch.
Woke as hell though, said it in the movies thread but this ranks pretty high on the Netflix original bingo. From the strong independent women to the token gay couple whose entire character arc is that they are gay, it's all here.
Also reading about the budget now really makes you wonder where all that money went. Weird how Netflix has the money and can even get the high profile actors and yet they mostly just make mediocre crap.
I thought it was ok for a Netflix original movie (which lets be honest, is basically the modern "straight to dvd").
Wasn't great but it sets up a sequel which I'd still take the time to watch.
Woke as hell though, said it in the movies thread but this ranks pretty high on the Netflix original bingo. From the strong independent women to the token gay couple whose entire character arc is that they are gay, it's all here.
Also reading about the budget now really makes you wonder where all that money went. Weird how Netflix has the money and can even get the high profile actors and yet they mostly just make mediocre crap.
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Soodanim
Gold Member
This actually makes me want to watch it more.
I don't really watch cinema with that lens on (so to speak), but I'm curious about everything pointed out here.
Or just have the traitor agree to work with the pharma guy for money. No one needed to die in this film. It seems very unlikely that there is a biological reason for their immortality in the first place since they can recover from brain shots and sense each other across the planet.
DragoonWalker
Member
I have no problem with another strong woman action movie, my problem is action movies these days lack serious identity. They take themselves so seriously, even though action movies are inherently ridiculous. They all have a similar color palette, similar cinematography/action choreography, pacing, and all seem to revolve around some group of generic outsider agents/mercs in 3rd world countries. Nothing interesting to say about anything, no satire, no social commentary, no self awareness. Empty, trite.
The first 20 min car chase in Bay's 6 Underground approached classic action film greatness but it had no context or follow through and it never reached those heights again. Extraction was technically impressive but that doesn't mean fun. Cuts exist for a reason. John Wick is fast approaching self parody at this point, super hero movies? Don't make me laugh. There's more but I could go on forever. Mission Impossible is only saved because it's a relic from a better age, fronted by an actor willing to push and emphasize his physical limits.
The first 20 min car chase in Bay's 6 Underground approached classic action film greatness but it had no context or follow through and it never reached those heights again. Extraction was technically impressive but that doesn't mean fun. Cuts exist for a reason. John Wick is fast approaching self parody at this point, super hero movies? Don't make me laugh. There's more but I could go on forever. Mission Impossible is only saved because it's a relic from a better age, fronted by an actor willing to push and emphasize his physical limits.
That's because the action film is either anchored in its world building or entirely carried by its star. Is there ANYONE of this caliber working today?
They keep trying the formula but they don't have the actors.
Or they try but the script can't carry the mythology to make it a cult classic.
They keep trying the formula but they don't have the actors.
Or they try but the script can't carry the mythology to make it a cult classic.
GnomeChimpsky
Member
I found it entertaining in parts but most of the production feels more like tv-pilot than AAA movie.
Also, whoever wrote this came up with this gem of a line describing how badass Charlize is supposed to be:
(paraphrasing)
"She has forgotten more ways to kill people than entire armies have learned"
Also, whoever wrote this came up with this gem of a line describing how badass Charlize is supposed to be:
(paraphrasing)
"She has forgotten more ways to kill people than entire armies have learned"
I'm just disgusted that Andy wasn't played by an actual immortal scythian, the French actor didn't have all his kids die in front of him 200 years ago, and the crusade lovers weren't truely from that era. How am I supposed to support diversity and authenticity in film if they just hire any old stand in human????
Same with military characters. I feel that only real vets should have those roles.
Same with military characters. I feel that only real vets should have those roles.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
The lead reminded me of Ellen Page... But more attractive. She had a little booty back there and her breasts are a nice C, small D. The best parts were Mary, Beatrice, the father (I can't remember his name) and, to a lesser extent, Lillith.
The lead kept making dumb decisions but maybe I'm not giving her enough credit because she hadn't lived a life at all before then. But she grew some ovaries in the last 2 episodes.
I hate how Mary went out.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
I liked it but it’s standard Netflix “better than made for TV but wouldn’t pay $12 to see it in theaters” fare.
It’s entertaining mindless action for two hours which is fine for the price of admission.
It’s entertaining mindless action for two hours which is fine for the price of admission.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Didn’t love the comic it was based on but I’m hearing enough god things to still be excited. I hope it’s successful enough to help get a Lazarus show made.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
The lame Highlander premise turned me off already. Plus Charlize Theron. She just always looks so smug and non charming ice princess in everything she plays in.
Sakura Doritos
Member
Just watched it. This movie is competent in action and pedestrian overall but the the characters are tokens or cliches.
This movie is basically a woke checklist for each character. I am curious if the source material is this tokenized. If so I can’t fault the movie for it.
This movie is basically a woke checklist for each character. I am curious if the source material is this tokenized. If so I can’t fault the movie for it.
The best written and acted characters are the immortal gay couple. A few of the actual stars in this movie feel like this movie was a paycheck and their acting felt like it.
Hotty Botty
Member
I watched this. At this point, I’ll watch every Netflix action flick. I enjoy the hell out of them. Don’t really care if the characters and world are fleshed out or have depth to them. The action is fun, the plot is good enough, and they usually have an A-lister starring. Keep ‘em coming.
Yup. Garbage.
The black chick was cute though. But doing pushups with that amount of ass? No way.