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[Romulus]

Not sure how long this will stay up before it's taken down.

EDIT: Its gone.

Lots of information here and it's well done. The consistency of these events described by fighter pilots, world leaders etc over the course of 80 years is pretty amazing.

The Soviets and US admitted that unknown objects infiltrated their nuclear bases and started the countdowns remotely in the USSR







Taken as a whole, the sheer amount of credible info is interesting.

 

[VN1X]

 

[mhirano]

Not sure how long this will stay up before it's taken down.

Lots of information here and it's well done. The consistency of these events described by fighter pilots, world leaders etc over the course of 80 years is pretty amazing.

The Soviets and US admitted that unknown objects infiltrated their nuclear bases and started the countdowns remotely in the USSR







Taken as a whole, the sheer amount of credible info is interesting.

Too much cutscenes, too little gameplay.
Is this a Kojima game?

 

[Golgo 13]

Elon Musk has a really good take on UFO’s - if they’ve visited so many times, why doesn’t anyone have a picture of one? They sure are subtle.

 

[Trunim]

You in the wrong part of the forum.

 

[ethomaz]

Is that a game?

 

[Patrick S.]

Man, this has almost no gameplay.

 

[Azelover]

Elon Musk has a really good take on UFO’s - if they’ve visited so many times, why doesn’t anyone have a picture of one? They sure are subtle.

That's what Steven Spielberg said. At the time he made Close Encounters he was a believer, but the fact sightings have decreased despite there being cameras everywhere now, made him change his mind.

That said, my sister and I both saw a UFO once, very close and in detail. So I deduced they're not showing up anymore. Because of the cameras.

 

[Twinguistics]

Great documentary, I watched it on the Netflix I think. Really compelling evidence but who really knows.

 

[ZehDon]

Too much cutscenes, too little gameplay.
Is this a Kojima game?

No, this is Naughty Dog's new sci-fi IP.

 

[MarkMe2525]

The vast distances involved with interstellar travel make the idea of alien visitors almost impossible. It's hard to comprehend how far even the nearest star is to us. My opinion of course and oh yeah.... wrong place for the thread.

 

[Hooks]

Those graphics look unreal wtf is this ps5?

 

[VN1X]

Not sure how long this will stay up before it's taken down.

Wasn't this on Netflix? lol

 

[cyberheater]

I agree OP. It‘s a brilliantly introduction to the phenomenon.

 

[Romulus]

Wasn't this on Netflix? lol

Amazon Prime

 

[Romulus]

Those graphics look unreal wtf is this ps5?

It's ps5 pro

The vast distances involved with interstellar travel make the idea of alien visitors almost impossible. It's hard to comprehend how far even the nearest star is to us. My opinion of course and oh yeah.... wrong place for the thread.

And during the 1500s people thought there were no other continents outside of Europe and the planet was flat too. People also believed the sound barrier was impossible to break and dozens of other examples. What your doing is apex perspective, that the time you are in is the apex of technology and understanding when in a reality we're barely above the medieval times when looking at the whole.

 

[pixelation]

Edit: Wrong forum, asked mods to move to off-topic or delete

Not sure how long this will stay up before it's taken down.

Lots of information here and it's well done. The consistency of these events described by fighter pilots, world leaders etc over the course of 80 years is pretty amazing.

The Soviets and US admitted that unknown objects infiltrated their nuclear bases and started the countdowns remotely in the USSR







Taken as a whole, the sheer amount of credible info is interesting.

Why would they take it down though?

 

[asustitan]

1. Radio signals have only been emitting for 100years. To anything outside of 100 light years, our sun is not emitting nothing of interest.
2. Light speed is soooooooo slow. So even if they could somehow emulate no mass (most likely impossible due to universe laws, how would mass not have mass?), if they were 100 light years away, we are not seeing them for 100 years here.
3. Why not make a grand entrance, why they flying around aimlessly ffs, or holding private meetings with government officials.

 

[Romulus]

3. Why not make a grand entrance, why they flying around aimlessly ffs, or holding private meetings with government officials.

Imagine discovering a new species of intelligent ape. Even though they are somewhat "close" to our level of intelligence, we wouldn't hold meetings with them. Scientists would literally learn more about them by sitting back and observing.

You're assuming that beings traveling lightyears from other galaxies or even solar systems are anywhere close to our level of intelligence. They could literally be hundreds of times more intelligent, now think back to my ape example and how we have 98% of a chimp's DNA and they're literally incapable of a real dialogue with us.

 

[asustitan]

Imagine discovering a new species of intelligent ape. Even though they are somewhat "close" to our level of intelligence, we wouldn't hold meetings with them. Scientists would literally learn more about them by sitting back and observing.

You're assuming that beings traveling lightyears from other galaxies or even solar systems are anywhere close to our level of intelligence. They could literally be hundreds of times more intelligent, now think back to my ape example and how we have 98% of a chimp's DNA and they're literally incapable of a real dialogue with us.

So they come all this way and just fly around posing for selfies?

I've no doubt of other life, but to really think they would be interested in our planet from, lets be generous 100 years ago and with our technology back then, is thinking quite a lot of ourselves to the point of arrogance.

It would be like us picking out a random asteroid galaxies away. That is all the information they would have on our planet.

I think people who believe in aliens being here already, really don't understand the scale of the universe. Even those that have an understanding can't actually grasp it.

It may be just as simple as, distances are far too great for communication, light may possibly be the limiter in all of this. The universe might be flooded with life but the laws don't simply allow faster than light travel and we are destined to be isolated between our stars. Maybe there are no cheat codes, no worm holes (none you can actually control in a practical way). It really could be that simple.

 

[Romulus]

So they come all this way and just fly around posing for selfies?

PhD scientists go to school for years just to go out into remote areas and study worms in dirt.

I didn't read beyond your first line because you're thinking abt things with a narrow lens.

Watch the doc with an open mind and tell me what you think.

 

[MarkMe2525]

It's ps5 pro



And during the 1500s people thought there were no other continents outside of Europe and the planet was flat too. People also believed the sound barrier was impossible to break and dozens of other examples. What your doing is apex perspective, that the time you are in is the apex of technology and understanding when in a reality we're barely above the medieval times when looking at the whole.

The first recorded examples of spherical earth pop up on ancient greece from Pythagoras in 500 BC. The idea itself, that educated people of the past believed that the Earth was flat, is a myth. There are times in history where certain cultures rejected the idea of a spherical Earth based on religious dogma. I would not use that as evidence to support an argument. There are people today that claim dinosaur bones are 6,500 years old and put there by Satan to distract us. I wouldn't make the claim that they are having issues with an apex perspective.

The idea of a continent is a modern one so it really doesn't make sense to say that people in the 16th century were not aware of them. They were absolutely aware of the lands which we call Asia and Africa which are different continents.

I do not believe there was ever a credible or widely accepted belief that objects couldn't travel faster than sound. Could you elaborate on what you were referring to.

Edit: I'm not sure why I felt the need to counterpoint all your examples, my bad. I could have just said I disagree with you. Well I disagree with you.

 

[Slayer-33]

Holy hell at the later parts of this docu, incredible.

 

[MarkMe2525]

So they come all this way and just fly around posing for selfies?

I've no doubt of other life, but to really think they would be interested in our planet from, lets be generous 100 years ago and with our technology back then is thinking quite a lot of ourselves to the point of arrogance.

It would be like us picking out a random asteroid galaxies away. That is all the information they would have on our planet.

I think people who believe in aliens being here already, really don't understand the scale of the universe. Even those that have an understanding can't actually grasp it.

It may be just as simple as distances are far too great for communication, light may possibly be the limiter in all of this. The universe might be flooded with life but the laws don't simply allow faster than light travel and we are destined to all be isolated between our stars. Maybe there are no cheat codes, no worm holes (none you can actually control in a practical way). It really could be that simple.

You put into words what I could not. I agree with all of this.

 

[Romulus]

The first recorded examples of spherical earth pop up on ancient greece from Pythagoras in 500 BC. The idea itself, that educated people of the past believed that the Earth was flat, is a myth. There are times in history where certain cultures rejected the idea of a spherical Earth based on religious dogma. I would not use that as evidence to support an argument. There are people today that claim dinosaur bones are 6,500 years old and put there by Satan to distract us. I wouldn't make the claim that they are having issues with an apex perspective.

The idea of a continent is a modern one so it really doesn't make sense to say that people in the 16th century were not aware of them. They were absolutely aware of the lands which we call Asia and Africa which are different continents.

I do not believe there was ever a credible or widely accepted belief that objects couldn't travel faster than sound. Could you elaborate on what you were referring to.

Edit: I'm not sure why I felt the need to counterpoint all your examples, my bad. I could have just said I disagree with you. Well I disagree with you.

The examples are endless. At one point we thought in such a way, only to be proven wrong.

And even in your post I dispute much of it, but this is just easier.

7 (Supposedly) Impossible Scientific Achievements

Many of today’s biggest scientific accomplishments were previously thought impossible but have continued to transform our lives and revolutionize our future potential.

www.thomasnet.com

And even just a decade ago we just now proved gravity had waves lol. It was still argued, a basic pillar of the universe. So, yeah anything we try to theorize in terms of space travel could easily be flawed.

 

[INC]

So they come all this way and just fly around posing for selfies?

I've no doubt of other life, but to really think they would be interested in our planet from, lets be generous 100 years ago and with our technology back then is thinking quite a lot of ourselves to the point of arrogance.

It would be like us picking out a random asteroid galaxies away. That is all the information they would have on our planet.

I think people who believe in aliens being here already, really don't understand the scale of the universe. Even those that have an understanding can't actually grasp it.

It may be just as simple as distances are far too great for communication, light may possibly be the limiter in all of this. The universe might be flooded with life but the laws don't simply allow faster than light travel and we are destined to all be isolated between our stars. Maybe there are no cheat codes, no worm holes (none you can actually control in a practical way). It really could be that simple.

Perhaps they're not travelling distance, but shift dimensions?
Its widely accepted now we're in a multiverse, perhaps its as simple as shifting/phasing between.

Again I'm not planting my flag in that camp, im just happy we can all say that UFOs 100% real now, thats good enough for me currently

Let's see what happens after june/july

 

[asustitan]

Perhaps they're not travelling distance, but shift dimensions?
Its widely accepted now we're in a multiverse, perhaps its as simple as shifting/phasing between.

Again I'm not planting my flag in that camp, im just happy we can all say that UFOs 100% real now, thats good enough for me currently

Let's see what happens after june/july

But still why us? Grasp the scale of the universe and ask why our point in the universe is so important? If they did visit us, how lucky we have been in 4.5 billion years that they pick 2021 to give a little show for someones camera. Those odds themselves are astounding.

Of course UFO's are real, it is an object that is unidentified. You still don't jump to the conclusion it is aliens.

Aliens on Earth should be an easy thing to identify. If they already are here then well we should be getting BIG confirmation but we never do. Instead they fly around at crazy speeds and don't even land and inspect things after travelling all this way?

Even Elon says to his knowledge there is nothing alien wise he has ever come across.

 

[INC]

But still why us? Grasp the scale of the universe and ask why our point in the universe is so important? If they did visit us, how lucky we have been in 4.5 billion years that they pick 2021 to give a little show for someones camera. Those odds themselves are astounding.

Of course UFO's are real, it is an object that is unidentified. You still don't jump to the conclusion it is aliens.

Aliens on Earth should be an easy thing to identify. If they already are here then well we should be getting BIG confirmation but we never do. Instead they fly around at crazy speeds and don't even land and inspect things after travelling all this way?

Even Elon says to his knowledge there is nothing alien wise he has ever come across.

Where did I say it was aliens?.........thats right I didnt.

All I said was UFOs are confirmed to be real, I never said it was aliens

Whats Elon musk gotta do with anything? Why not bill Gates, since we're just saying random billionaire's names as proof lol

Why us? Well perhaps if aliens were real, perhaps we're the nearest intelligent life form? No different to us sending out seti in search of aliens life forms, wouldnt it make sense if another life form was out there, they'd be doing the same?

 

[asustitan]

Where did I say it was aliens?.........thats right I didnt.

All I said was UFOs are confirmed to be real, I never said it was aliens

Whats Elon musk gotta do with anything? Why not bill Gates, since we're just saying random billionaire's names as proof lol

Why us? Well perhaps if aliens were real, perhaps we're the nearest intelligent life form? No different to us sending out seti in search of aliens life forms, wouldnt it make sense if another life form was out there, they'd be doing the same?

Musk operates SpaceX, he is in close contact with governments on payloads and no doubt has access to all his camera feeds in space.

Say we were the only other intelligent life out there. How would the aliens know Earth has an intelligent species? We have a 100 light year radio footprint, even then the signals are weak af. Do you grasp how many stars are out there and you are picking out our sun as THE place to go for the aliens to visit? It is arrogant.

So when did aliens arrive 1950's and the whole Roswell thing? OK, they visit us but they are still hovering around 70 years later? still deciding how to formally introduce themselves? For an advanced species they sure take their time about stuff.

 

[INC]

Musk operates SpaceX, he is in close contact with governments on payloads and no doubt has access to all his camera feeds in space.

Say we were the only other intelligent life out there. How would the aliens know Earth has an intelligent species? We have a 100 light year radio footprint, even then the signals are weak af. Do you grasp how many stars are out there and you are picking out our sun as THE place to go for the aliens to visit? It is arrogant.

So when did aliens arrive 1950's and the whole Roswell thing? OK, they came but they are still hovering around 70 years later? still deciding how to formally introduce themselves? For an advanced species they sure take their time about stuff.

He's still just a civilian tho isn't he lol, so because he's made a rocket, he's now got access to all the government files, even presidents don't get all the info out there on the subject, but you think civilian who builds rockets has? Really?

Why would I know when aliens arrived, since I've never said they have?

Yes I grasp how far it is, as I KEEP saying, its just an idea, I'm not saying that's why or how

 

[asustitan]

He's still just a civilian tho isn't he lol, so because he's made a rocket, he's now got access to all the government files, even presidents don't get all the info out there on the subject, but you think civilian who builds rockets has? Really?

Why would I know when aliens arrived, since I've never said they have?

Yes I grasp how far it is, as I KEEP saying, its just an idea, I'm not saying that's why or how

Well he has more information than the regular civilian. I'm sure his rockets would be given instructions on how to avoid all the aliens orbiting Earth.

My biggest gripe is that everyone thinks we are a beacon in space saying "intelligent life is here" and we have somehow communicated this instantly with the whole universe, and to have had our invitation answered within 70 years of us speculating they have arrived.

 

[jufonuk]

3. Why not make a grand entrance, why they flying around aimlessly ffs, or holding private meetings with government officials.

They trying to be all mysterious and shit you know what gets attention ? Drama

Be all dramatic and shit you little bug eyed large cranium fucks. (You know I’m just playing)Stop probing my anus. But if you still want to, tonight works for me ...holler at your boy .. peace

 

[INC]

Well he has more information than the regular civilian. I'm sure his rockets would be given instructions on how to avoid all the aliens orbiting Earth.

My biggest gripe is that everyone thinks we are a beacon in space saying "intelligent life is here" and we have somehow communicated this instantly with the whole universe, and to have had our invitation answered within 70 years of us speculating they have arrived.

Everyone thinks that? That's a very vague statement, so you're saying anyone who has interest in the subject all thinks like that. Thats pretty closed opinion of anyone interested in the subject

Orbiting earth? So they're just floating there now? Why would that happen?

I'd be just as happy if it was all a massive cover up for new tech, and the ufo story was used to carry on designing and flying these test craft in secret, thats just as awesome in my mind, and welcome that too. I see that as a very likely situation as well.

 

[The Hamburglar]

Tom DeLonge on UFO research: 'I wouldn't have left Blink-182 for something pie in the sky'

Rock star Tom DeLonge has spoken to Sky News about his work on UFOs, saying he would not have put music on the backburner to "chase monsters and ghosts" and that research into the subject could "change the world".

www.google.com

Release the files Tom

 

[INC]

Tom DeLonge on UFO research: 'I wouldn't have left Blink-182 for something pie in the sky'

Rock star Tom DeLonge has spoken to Sky News about his work on UFOs, saying he would not have put music on the backburner to "chase monsters and ghosts" and that research into the subject could "change the world".

www.google.com

Release the files Tom

Look at me everyone, please look at me, remember i was in that 90's cringe band, remember!

 

[Soodanim]

And during the 1500s people thought there were no other continents outside of Europe and the planet was flat too. People also believed the sound barrier was impossible to break and dozens of other examples. What your doing is apex perspective, that the time you are in is the apex of technology and understanding when in a reality we're barely above the medieval times when looking at the whole.

It’s a false equivalence to compare not knowing what’s the other side of some water because you don’t have a boat to the conclusions of decades of dedicated research into the very laws and limits of the universe after a technological revolution allowing for precise measurement of the very forces that govern us and energy itself, not whether we will be able to go faster than sound or not. It’s the difference between picking up a few words of a language in passing and learning to read, write, and speak the language.

That isn’t to say there are no more questions and answers, as that’s not the claim of science. But until proven otherwise, the existence of what would need to either shatter the laws of physics or circumvent them entirely remains well within the realm of science fiction and a few anecdotes spread across many years won’t change that.

Having said that, I may get round to watching this, why not.

 

[INC]

It’s a false equivalence to compare not knowing what’s the other side of some water because you don’t have a boat to the conclusions of decades of dedicated research into the very laws and limits of the universe after a technological revolution allowing for precise measurement of the very forces that govern us and energy itself, not whether we will be able to go faster than sound or not. It’s the difference between picking up a few words of a language in passing and learning to read, write, and speak the language.

That isn’t to say there are no more questions and answers, as that’s not the claim of science. But until proven otherwise, the existence of what would need to either shatter the laws of physics or circumvent them entirely remains well within the realm of science fiction and a few anecdotes spread across many years won’t change that.

Having said that, I may get round to watching this, why not.

The last 20mins loose me tbh, it goes from tracing facts and paperwork/documents and video evidence, to just eye witness accounts of kids, now I'm not against it, but its not evidence to me, compelling sure, but not grounds to blow the lid off the ufo mystery.

Still its one of the better documentaries made about the subject, it does for the most part just stick to facts, and doesn't go full on Steven Greer and gaia bullshit, about speaking to aliens in their minds through group meditation and buy our app to be enlightened

Its a genuine documentary if you like and well made too, even if u have no interest in the subject its a decent and digestible documentary

 

[Romulus]

It’s a false equivalence to compare not knowing what’s the other side of some water because you don’t have a boat to the conclusions of decades of dedicated research into the very laws and limits of the universe after a technological revolution allowing for precise measurement of the very forces that govern us and energy itself, not whether we will be able to go faster than sound or not. It’s the difference between picking up a few words of a language in passing and learning to read, write, and speak the language.

That isn’t to say there are no more questions and answers, as that’s not the claim of science. But until proven otherwise, the existence of what would need to either shatter the laws of physics or circumvent them entirely remains well within the realm of science fiction and a few anecdotes spread across many years won’t change that.

Having said that, I may get round to watching this, why not.

Well of course it's a false equivalence geez, not my point to make an equivalent comparison because its literally impossible. Lol

The point is science is often being proven wrong and discovering basic principles even now, so to form any conclusion about space travel now is ridiculous.

The year is 1890. Flight is impossible!! Intentional false equivalence.

I'm thinking in terms of hundreds or even thousands of years.

 

[EverydayBeast]

UFO sightings have been consistent for the last 100 years and they’ll be even more with today’s tech.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Are UFO's Real? - Ft. Neil Degrasse Tyson

 

[INC]

Are UFO's Real? - Ft. Neil Degrasse Tyson

They've already been confirmed as real...........so.......

 

[Hawking Radiation]

They've already been confirmed as real...........so.......

Unidentified Flying Object

Key first word. Unidentified. It could be anything. It could be any kind of debris floating around in strong winds. Can't say they're aliens or spaceships.

If you want to claim they are, then where is your evidence?

 

[Romulus]

Unidentified Flying Object

Key first word. Unidentified. It could be anything. It could be any kind of debris floating around in strong winds. Can't say they're aliens or spaceships.

If you want to claim they are, then where is your evidence?

Sounds to me like you have a real insecurity about it. It would probably affect your subconsciously fragility to know, for certain that you're inferior to other beings. You sound borderline angry when no one is even saying "omg aliens!!" That's revealing in itself.

 

[INC]

Unidentified Flying Object

Key first word. Unidentified. It could be anything. It could be any kind of debris floating around in strong winds. Can't say they're aliens or spaceships.

If you want to claim they are, then where is your evidence?

Where did I say that? Where is your evidence?

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Sounds to me like you have a real insecurity about it. It would probably affect your subconsciously fragility to know, for certain that you're inferior to other beings. You sound borderline angry when no one is even saying "omg aliens!!" That's revealing in itself.

Um, what?

 

[jufonuk]

And it’s down. Who took it down ? Maybe it was the aliens or maybe the copyright holder. Who knows but I’m betting on aliens.

 

[Romulus]

Um, what?

Should have known that out of billions of galaxies with unknown mysteries there was a 9-5pm guy on GAF that had all the answers. You're literally in all the UFO threads yesterday going nuts with your opinion. "But Neil said!!!" lol

 

[Wheeljack539]

That's what Steven Spielberg said. At the time he made Close Encounters he was a believer, but the fact sightings have decreased despite there being cameras everywhere now, made him change his mind.

That said, my sister and I both saw a UFO once, very close and in detail. So I deduced they're not showing up anymore. Because of the cameras.

Too clear? Fake.

Too potato? It's 20XX, why is it a potato?

Seriously, my S9 can't get get a clear photograph of an airplane in flight much less the moon which comes out as a blob of white. Pissed me off that with all this tech I couldn't get a nice shot of the Jupiter Saturn conjunction despite clear skies.

As for UFOs, I've had a sighting as well, close enough to see that it was a hovering saucer shaped object, not a helicopter, blimp, etc. And if it wasn't ETs, then that means military and that advance tech has been used and not given to the public since my sighting in the early 90s.

 

[Cattlyst]

Fuck. I specifically came on here to get the link to watch it and it's been taken down. Gah!

 

[Dacon]

Not sure how long this will stay up before it's taken down.

EDIT: Its gone.

Lots of information here and it's well done. The consistency of these events described by fighter pilots, world leaders etc over the course of 80 years is pretty amazing.

The Soviets and US admitted that unknown objects infiltrated their nuclear bases and started the countdowns remotely in the USSR







Taken as a whole, the sheer amount of credible info is interesting.

Where else is it available to watch? Any streaming services?

That's what Steven Spielberg said. At the time he made Close Encounters he was a believer, but the fact sightings have decreased despite there being cameras everywhere now, made him change his mind.

That said, my sister and I both saw a UFO once, very close and in detail. So I deduced they're not showing up anymore. Because of the cameras.

I would be very interested in reading your account of this incident.