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The Pinball Arcade |OT| play them all from Soho to Brighton
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ThreePiMatt
Member
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This Wednesday, Fillpoint will be in court for a motion to settle/compromise: http://www.nynb.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/Calendar/a-wednesday.pdf
This may be the end of the Microsoft lockout!
This may be the end of the Microsoft lockout!
Oh god, I hope so.
I don't think I'll jump in on any extra packs, though. Waiting to see if there's any cross-play b/w PS3 and PS4, staying the hell away from the One. PS4 version was confirmed, wasn't it? If not, it'd almost be a lock, especially with the whole indie speech.
Minsc
Gold Member
PS4 version of STTNG was supposed to be shown at E3, so I imagine we'll see a video of the new lighting/etc soon.
As far as we know, there's no retrospecting previous PSN purchases with PS4 specific improvements for PS4 owners, best guess is they'll have to rebuy the tables made with the new engine to get the improvements (I think they have to do a lot of work to upgrade a table), but I don't believe they said for sure.
Sounds like a console stalemate then. Hopefully they can have both PS3+Vita and PS4+Vita crossbuy. But until we know more, strictly iOS and PC.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I hope there's PS3/4/Vita cross buy. That'll give me one more PS4 game to play at launch.
Otherwise, I'll ask for PSN cards for Christmas.
Otherwise, I'll ask for PSN cards for Christmas.
plagiarize
Banned
This is what I'm expecting. I'd love some confirmation though. I'd pick up the season 1 table pack on PS3 RIGHT NOW if it was crossbuy with PS4.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Oh god, yes pleeeeeease
Huh, I've never actually seen it in writing, but I actually know what a "Chapter 11" is:
Now god, please don't say that Farsight haven't done any work in regards to having finished releases ready to be pumped out onto XBLA. I know it's their lead platform, but if they say something like "Now we need to port the new front-end to the system and calculate how we tackle DLC and updates" I'll be furious.
I know I said I wouldn't buy them on there, but I scored some cheap MSP a while back and would happily purchase them if they release it soon enough.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
First time stopping in here (I think, I lose track constantly). Me and the lady of the house have been playing this every night for like 2 months now. It's so nice to have such really faithful recreations of these tables. I miss arcades a ton, this really brings a nice little taste of them back.
Honestly though, pinball history is a huge blank for me, so all the background info included with these tables has been a nice starting point.
Hour-wise, this may end up my most played game this year
Honestly though, pinball history is a huge blank for me, so all the background info included with these tables has been a nice starting point.
Hour-wise, this may end up my most played game this year
Some great info is coming out about the PlayStation 4 build of The Pinball Arcade.
For one, it has been confirmed that you need to make only ONE purchase of the game and any tables to own a copy of them for the Vita, PS3 and PS4! Not only that, the lighting (still a work in progress) the frame rate and input lag is said to be fully addressed for the next gen release that could be out on the PS4's launch day. I can't wait (especially since it will likely also have 3D like the future PS3 version).
BTW, who here has gotten a PS4 on reserve after the awesome conference they had? The latest stories say that sales will be crazy, so if you haven't already done so for next-gen TPA on your HDTV, you might want to do it soon.
Here's the E3 report:
For one, it has been confirmed that you need to make only ONE purchase of the game and any tables to own a copy of them for the Vita, PS3 and PS4! Not only that, the lighting (still a work in progress) the frame rate and input lag is said to be fully addressed for the next gen release that could be out on the PS4's launch day. I can't wait (especially since it will likely also have 3D like the future PS3 version).
BTW, who here has gotten a PS4 on reserve after the awesome conference they had? The latest stories say that sales will be crazy, so if you haven't already done so for next-gen TPA on your HDTV, you might want to do it soon.
Here's the E3 report:
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I'm very happy that the best-case scenario is happening with the PS4 version and cross-buy.
I hope it comes out on launch day, I have my PS4, extra gamepad, camera, Need for Speed Rivals and DriveClub all preordered from Amazon ready to go.
Not yet, but after this post I'm that much closer to doing it! Only thing I need to work out is whether I get it shipped from Amazon to Australia for ~$430AUD and forfeit warranty, or pay the full RRP here of $550.
Exactly the same here, I think. I love that I can even not play a table for a while, come back to it and learning a new way of advancing my skills. It's just great.Hour-wise, this may end up my most played game this year
About the only thing I could really ask for now is the ability to re-map those nudge zones on iOS.
plagiarize
Banned
I'm going to wait for second confirmation of this before I spend my $30 on the season one pack... but... finally I will be coming out of the wilderness back to the loving arms of this game
I have the PS4 version pre-ordered, and I've not wanted to invest any more into the PS3 or 360 versions when I plan on retiring them from my entertainment system soon, but if the PS4 version is definitely just going to slot right in, well, I'm gearing right back up and diving head first into this.
Minsc
Gold Member
Yeah, nice surprise if that's true, there was definitely a lot of speculation going on that one shouldn't expect it, but I guess perhaps better to prepare for bad news and hear good news than the opposite.
An off-screen video of the PS4 version of STTNG was also posted at PAF, can't see too much, but they still have more tweaking to do (and hopefully it'll look even better with direct footage). The impressions are very possible though (along with joeblow's quote above):
An off-screen video of the PS4 version of STTNG was also posted at PAF, can't see too much, but they still have more tweaking to do (and hopefully it'll look even better with direct footage). The impressions are very possible though (along with joeblow's quote above):
Yeah, I think I need confirmation on PS4 cross-play, as well as a statement comparing it directly to the responsiveness of the 360 one. I heard people say the PS3 one was almost completely lag-free, but maybe I'm just hypersensitive to it or something... so I'm hoping the PS4 one, which should be as good as if not better, actually is.
plagiarize
Banned
Looking good. Looking good. Let's get those confirmations.
BobTheFork
Member
It is pretty cool that this gives you the chance to play things you can't find, like champion Pub.
It's always a big deal when one of those makes it's way to a show.
It's always a big deal when one of those makes it's way to a show.
Completely random and irrelevant fact, but interesting nonetheless: Jay Obernolte, the head of FarSight, is actually the mayor of Big Bear Lake, where FarSight is located. Strange but true.
ThreePiMatt
Member
So, for the past few days I've been getting this ridiculous idea in my head to buy a pinball machine. Not just any pinball machine, something old, inexpensive, possibly even broken so I can fiddle around with it to get it working again. I figure, being in the Chicago suburbs used pinball machines have to be in an abundance around here. I just did a cursory check of craigslist and saw this for $200.
Mother of God. How awesome would that be?
Mother of God. How awesome would that be?
The PS4 version looks brilliant! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR14wiX7i6g
Can't wait to finally be able to play this myself on something besides the iPad.
Can't wait to finally be able to play this myself on something besides the iPad.
plagiarize
Banned
I really need confirmation on cross buy one way or another. My resolve is really starting to wear down... and like... people in this thread know how long I've been sitting on my hands.
I bought the first releases on 360, but won't be going that route after seeing what MS is pulling next gen.
Knowing the PS4 version is looking this much better, I know I have to get this version.
Was about to pull the trigger on the PS3 version, but the season pack have been delayed in Europe for a bit it seems.
So I'm in the same boat.
If it's 100% we'll get PS3/PS4 cross play, I'll buy the PS3 season packs the moment they go online.
That... looks pretty awesome. How does it work though? I can't see it sitting on anything... does it have legs? Is it just flat on the ground?So, for the past few days I've been getting this ridiculous idea in my head to buy a pinball machine. Not just any pinball machine, something old, inexpensive, possibly even broken so I can fiddle around with it to get it working again. I figure, being in the Chicago suburbs used pinball machines have to be in an abundance around here. I just did a cursory check of craigslist and saw this for $200.
Mother of God. How awesome would that be?
Edit: Holy shit, fucking buy it. That's the coolest thing I've ever seen. Good novelty value, too. If I saw one, I'd probably get it just for the hell of it, regardless of if it's actually any good or not.
It's the sort of thing that Stern or some other company should make as a home table. If you saw that "home" edition of Transformers... bugger that, make something like this, don't skimp on the quality, charge $500 for it and sell fucking heaps.
ThreePiMatt
Member
That was just a picture I found on Google. Looking over the ad some more, it sounds like its not a full unit, the guy parted it out and selling it off in bits. Would be sweet to own though.
ThreePiMatt
Member
Gyahahahahah! Finally got the 1000 point ball in Central Park! Damn those tiny flippers! And I literally got it when the ball was sinking down the middle in one of the 30 point rollover lanes.
Still need to get the points on Big Shot, frankly I'm not even close on that. That table is hot garbage.
Still need to get the points on Big Shot, frankly I'm not even close on that. That table is hot garbage.
The Pinball Arcade and next gen consoles... so far it has only been announced and shown on the PS4. It seems strange considering that the game was developed on the X360 this generation. Perhaps it has something to do with the recently reported polices for indie games on both super HD machines:
- Microsoft's XBox One policy for indie games require a publisher to be released and require $10K to $20K for each extra patch fees.
- Sony's PlayStation 4 policy for indie games do not require a publisher to be released and will not charge any patch fees.
Some indie developers say they are going PS4 only because of this disparity. I know Farsight are looking for a partner for the X360 version, but the patch prices could still be an issue. Is it possible that Farsight will skip the XBone altogether?
- Microsoft's XBox One policy for indie games require a publisher to be released and require $10K to $20K for each extra patch fees.
- Sony's PlayStation 4 policy for indie games do not require a publisher to be released and will not charge any patch fees.
Some indie developers say they are going PS4 only because of this disparity. I know Farsight are looking for a partner for the X360 version, but the patch prices could still be an issue. Is it possible that Farsight will skip the XBone altogether?
plagiarize
Banned
it's possible that the Xbox 360 publishing rights that are tied up in the courts still, also cover next gen Microsoft consoles too. so they might be waiting to sort out the publisher situation on 360 before announcing anything.
but yeah, I mean, indies are aligning pretty clearly with the PS4, and Farsight are indie. Indie support is one of the key factors for me in choosing PS4.
I'm honestly not that jazzed about "indie" one way or the other, but that they've gone out of their way to say devs can self-publish goes a long way as far as me buying the system for titles like Pinball Arcade and whatever dudes like Jeff Minter (and by kind of extension, Shawn McGrath who did Dyad) push out. Like a better-realised equivalent of being able to run Linux... and the Xbox Indie whatever (I can't remember what it's called BECAUSE IT'S NOT FUCKING AVAILABLE IN AUSTRALIA, MS YOU CUNTS).
I wonder if it's been at all confirmed from the horse's mouth that PS3/Vita/PS4 purchases are all cross-compatible. If so, I think I'll be buying both season 1 and 2 right off the bat. If not, I'll ask on their FB or on PAF.
Sony already confirmed PS4 / PS3 /Vita Cross Play to this gaming reporter. You can wait for FB confirmation if you want to be sure.
I just found this on PAF, I think it's important because I think the article you linked to, they're talking about how the PS4 will cross-buy with Vita just like the PS3 would cross-buy with it... but it won't do it across all three:
From PAF
Apologies for all the quote nesting, just want you get across that I'm not actually saying any of this stuff, it's all pretty much official.
And some other quotes, from their FB page:
(Will the PC version look as good as the PS4 E3 tech demo?)
A photo from E3:
I have to say, I'm absolutely over the fucking moon that Sony actually invited FS to E3 and gave them room to demo the game. It's garnered some good press from people who I assume would never have even known about the game... so kudos to both parties for impressing the hell out of me on both fronts.
From PAF
(and this post in the same thread on PAF):smbhax said:
PiN WiZ said:
Apologies for all the quote nesting, just want you get across that I'm not actually saying any of this stuff, it's all pretty much official.
And some other quotes, from their FB page:
(Will the PC version look as good as the PS4 E3 tech demo?)
A photo from E3:
I have to say, I'm absolutely over the fucking moon that Sony actually invited FS to E3 and gave them room to demo the game. It's garnered some good press from people who I assume would never have even known about the game... so kudos to both parties for impressing the hell out of me on both fronts.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Guess I'll double dip, then. I wanted it to be cross buy compatible, but eh, not a deal breaker.
Actually kind of glad that they're thinking of the PS4 as a straight refresh, and I agree with the sentiment in the copied post about preferring a full effort to a quick port job with just a little gloss. Now of course that feeling all depends on the PS4 version actually being a full-fledged effort. So far it's looking pretty good. One crazy thing to consider though is PLEASE revamp the UI and pretty much everything outside of the gameplay.
They're talking about the version on PS4 being "version 2", which I think is kinda like a generational overhaul of the software, I guess like moving up from Windows Vista to Windows 7. Not sure whether some platforms get left behind or not. I don't think the 360 does, but have no idea on the rest. Obviously the PC is safe.
Minsc
Gold Member
Well they said the mobiles are the most profitable platform of all the platforms more or less, and the mobiles have the weakest hardware (for now) of all the platforms, so there's no reason to leave anything behind since their most profitable platform is also the weakest, unless they plan to abandon iOS/android lol.
Perhaps you're talking strictly graphics though? If so, the platforms were never really on equal footing, as the handheld/mobile/mac platforms were quite a bit behind the PS3/360 to begin with, now this PS4 version brings it up to a whole new level, which neither the PC or Wii U will have at first (if ever). It sounds like the dynamic lighting will eventually show up on PC, but that could be well in to 2014 for all we know, and whether or not other PS4 features beyond that show up, we'll see too!
Edit: Maybe you mean certain platforms will just never get the newer PS4-level (version 2) graphics, and be stuck with their original style that they've always had? That seems likely. As I said above, I don't think anything will get upgraded to PS4 level for certain, except maybe PC down the road.
I agree with the complaints above on nudging on iOS too. I just want swipe to nudge to work. They finally made it stop blue screening, but it still doesn't work right. Only ~1/3 of the times it will recognize the swipe, and it's very erratic, so it's pretty useless to me still.
plagiarize
Banned
I just found this on PAF, I think it's important because I think the article you linked to, they're talking about how the PS4 will cross-buy with Vita just like the PS3 would cross-buy with it... but it won't do it across all three:
From PAF
(and this post in the same thread on PAF):
Apologies for all the quote nesting, just want you get across that I'm not actually saying any of this stuff, it's all pretty much official.
And some other quotes, from their FB page:
(Will the PC version look as good as the PS4 E3 tech demo?)
A photo from E3:
I have to say, I'm absolutely over the fucking moon that Sony actually invited FS to E3 and gave them room to demo the game. It's garnered some good press from people who I assume would never have even known about the game... so kudos to both parties for impressing the hell out of me on both fronts.
great work Shaneus. Then I continue to wait. Another five more months. Just another five. It's only been like... almost a year since my indefinite wait began. Since Creature came out on PS3.
I more meant "version 2" as an entirely new software platform. What upgrades that entails I think would be unique to each hardware platform, but I'd say at a minimum there's things like core engine improvements, physics and obviously the menu navigation and general aesthetic... that sort of thing (as an educated guess). So each hardware platform has it's own strengths and weaknesses, but the ones they can upgrade, they will (depending on how flexible X platform is on patching/updating). I believe there was talk of the first/next 360 release to be using this base, but they weren't sure on the PS3 getting it because of how PSN handles updates (I believe).
If that makes sense
No problemo. Sadly it means I have to wait as well, but it's all for the best. Such a shame we still have no definitive version, with the 360 being the closest (but never updated), PS3 experiencing flipper lag compared to the 360 one, the PC one nowhere to be found and the handheld devices obviously severely hardware limited.
I don't think it's just your luck, remember ST:TNG is a cunt of a table
Glad to hear there's no lag detected... have you played both the PS3 and 360 versions? Would you say it's as responsive as the latter?plagiarize
Banned
I remember a lot of that, like Shaneus said. Specifically when I didn't get a clean shot on the center ramp and it came back down from it.