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The Rise and Fall of Saints Row
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Neon Xenon
Member
I like this channel. Good retrospectives that don't try to be "extra" about the presentation.
cash_longfellow
Member
The video thumbnail and an hour long video is big no from me dog lol
semiconscious
Member
an hour-long video about a car crash? hell, if i wanted to watch something like that i could just look out my window...
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ReBurn
Gold Member
I just finished watching it and It sort of felt like despite acknowledging that Volition alienated the established fanbase with the zoomer character power fantasy and releasing a poorly reviewed game in the end they seemed to chalk it up to the industry's desire for growth and consolidation. That's disappointing, because has Volition delivered a game fans of the franchise could relate to Embracer may not have shut them down.
GutsOfThor
Member
The first two games were fucking amazing. They fucked up with the super hero bullshit of the third and that's where I lost interest.
Faust
Perpetually Tired
Sadly. I didn't expect them to actually discuss the real reasons in depth of why the game failed. Can't touch criticize the ideology too much otherwise they may be cancelled.
Laptop1991
Member
I'm a big fan of Saints Row 2 and 3, i played 4 but the superpowers slightly ruined it for me, but the recent game wasn't good and it's a shame the studio got shut down, all they had to do was make a SR game like 2 and 3 and i think the game would have sold decent numbers and been received well.
Pimpollo818
Member
thanks, needed something to watch for my 15k steps
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I don’t need to watch the video, but I do want to say that last Saints Row game is easily in the top three worst game I’ve ever played.
I’m not exaggerating. Saints checks off every possible low note. Unlikable characters, an absurd premise (especially with those characters), bad dialogue, piss poor combat, and mediocre graphics.
I’m not exaggerating. Saints checks off every possible low note. Unlikable characters, an absurd premise (especially with those characters), bad dialogue, piss poor combat, and mediocre graphics.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Almost missed this new GVMERS video. Thanks for the thread, OP!
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I never played SR games.
But my impression (maybe I'm wrong) is that the old SR games were like B-tier GTA kinds of games with more action. If someone didn't like GTA or didn't want to wait years for it, SR fills the gap.
But then they changed it up to a big bright coloured Fortnite party fest action game with obvious political slants to it.
Considering GTA games take forever to come out, they would had sold more copies if they stuck to their original formula, improved each sequel and release a new game every 3 years.
Audiophile
Member
Is it really saints row without giant dildo weapons?
JayK47
Member
I am playing this now and I am actually enjoying it. It really helps that I got it for free and my expectations started off very low. The setting is really nice, and I like that I can customize the hangout and vehicles. The main characters are not great, but I was never a super fan of any of the characters from the first 4 games besides Shaundi. Neenah is ok so far.
wondermega
Member
This is my thinking as well. Way back in the day this seemed like a pretty shameless GTA ripoff, and that was a bit of a thing you would see back then - but it seemed like a pretty above-average one, well-made and let you do some things that probably couldn't really get way with in ACTUAL GTA. And it seemed like it worked! They outlasted a few of the other games of its ilk - and makes one scratch their head, "why didn't they just stick with this?" Didn't the bean counters look at what was working and say "just keep doing more of these," rather than "it ain't broke so let's DEFINITELY screw with it!"
Yeah, I am sure egos, team chemistry changes, and money all played a part. Too bad.
Hawking Radiation
Member
JayK47
Member
I think I like this game more than Saints Row The Third and for sure the fourth shit game. I am at least laughing more when playing this game. The main character is funny to me, while other characters really are not. The game world is very detailed and well done. Lots of unique buildings. One of the side activities is taking photos of unique buildings and items. That is fun. Being able to modify most everything is nice. You get to basically make your own missions depending on what you build in the city.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
I liked the third but IV making you an OP superhero got old quick imo.
rabbity-thing
Member
Bruh, is Keith David a joke to you?
NeverYouMind
Member
Am I the only one in the thread that considered the first three installments juvenile and amateurish while enjoying the fourth for its tongue in cheek parody of sci-fi and video game cliches?
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Sushi_Combo
Member
You are the only one
NeverYouMind
Member
bender
What time is it?
The first game kind of felt like it lacked confidence and was an also ran GTA knock-off. The second game felt like it Violation knew the direction they wanted to take their open world, crime sandbox and fully committed to being absurd. It's my favorite in the series. The third game felt like it blew its' load with the opening mission and the didn't know how to top itself which plagued the following sequel as well. I mostly agree with your take though.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Saints Row 2 is as good as any GTA game.
Shame what happened to the franchise since.
Shame what happened to the franchise since.