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President Bush on Friday said he would veto legislation that would loosen restrictions on embryonic stem cell research and expressed deep concern about human cloning research in South Korea.

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OK, I'm not on either side here, but let me get this straight ok? They don't want to use a clump of cells an embreyo,to continue research for cures for various diseases, but it is completely ok to kill a much more developed fetus by getting an abortion? Just so I'm straight here.

 

[Zaptruder]

It's bush. You expect any sort of consitency out of this guy? He'll set back libertry and freedom and progress and the economy 35 years by the time he's out of office.

 

[Drexon]

:lol :lol :lol This guy never seizes to amuse me. All I can ever hope for is the an even more stupid, but probably more good looking (since that's what you vote for, I've come to believe) president gets elected next time around. All hail president Homer B. Uteful. He will ban dogs in 67% of the country because he doesn't like the look of their faces and try to use stemcell research to gein eternal life. It'll happen.

 

[human5892]

[They don't want to use a clump of cells an embreyo,to continue research for cures for various diseases, but it is completely ok to kill a much more developed fetus by getting an abortion? Just so I'm straight here.

I'm no Bush-supporter, but he is being consistent here: if it were completely up to him, abortion would be totally illegal. To him, using embryonic stem cells is tantamount to abortion, which he opposes but is currently unable to do anything about.

 

[Macam]

Consistent...to a point. The following comes courtesy of Think Progress (http://thinkprogress.org/index.php?p=932):

Today President Bush announced that he plans to veto any legislation that would loosen restrictions on embryonic stem cell research:

"I’ve made it very clear to the Congress that the use of federal money, taxpayers’ money, to promote science which destroys life in order to save life – I’m against that. And therefore if the bill does that, I will veto it."

That’s strange. When he’s talking about the death penalty, President Bush says he likes policies that destroy life in order to save it:

"I have been supportive of the death penalty, both as governor and President. … And I happen to believe that the death penalty, when properly applied, saves lives of others."

So, let’s get this straight: President Bush supports state-sanctioned killing because he “believes” that it will save lives, despite the multitude of studies showing that’s nonsense. And President Bush opposes research that could rescue millions from the living hell that is Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, spinal cord injury, stroke, etc., because he objects to “destroying” embryonic, in vitro stem cells that would have been discarded anyway.

Oh, and don’t forget, this mangled, convoluted logic is called “principled.” And it shows a committment to a “Culture of Life.”

 

[Phoenix]

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OK, I'm not on either side here, but let me get this straight ok? They don't want to use a clump of cells an embreyo,to continue research for cures for various diseases, but it is completely ok to kill a much more developed fetus by getting an abortion? Just so I'm straight here.

Actually I think Bush is AGAINST abortion.

 

[Macam]

Actually I think Bush is AGAINST abortion.

Correct. He's for private ownership of Social Security, not your body.

 

[Link1110]

Actually I think Bush is AGAINST abortion.

He's against killing babies. It's killing grown men and women by sending them to Iraq that he doesn't mind.

 

[Deleted member 4784]

I don't really know what to think about this. Bush isn't against Stem Cell Research; what he's against is the act of cloning an entirely new embryo of a person to provide them with genetic copies of stem cells. The future implications of legalizing a procedure such as this are limitless in benefit as much as abuse. At the same time however, it is hard to ignore the benefits that such a treatment would provide to the hundreds of thousands of Americans that are suffering from not only spinal chord injuries, but illnesses such as Parkinson's Disease and maybe even Alzheimers. If only they could clone stem cells instead of having to clone an entirely new embryo for harvesting purposes. I understand Bush's considerations, but at the same time, I think that he's approaching this medical development the wrong way. I mean, how does he know that American funding and research into this development wouldn't result in a means of similar production without the need of cloning an embryo?

 

[Triumph]

All I know is, whenever it's legal or feasible, I'm cloning myself a million times over, and a million woolly mammoths, and my undefeatable army will thunder across the plains like the Mongol hordes of yore.

 

[Phoenix]

All I know is, whenever it's legal or feasible, I'm cloning myself a million times over, and a million woolly mammoths, and my undefeatable army will thunder across the plains like the Mongol hordes of yore.

If you've got that much money, its probably cheaper to just hire a real army

 

[demon]

All I know is, whenever it's legal or feasible, I'm cloning myself a million times over, and a million woolly mammoths, and my undefeatable army will thunder across the plains like the Mongol hordes of yore.

Begun, the clone w..

ahh fuck it.