There is no Epstein Client List

Yes. We strive to build a society that uses non-lethal methods to enact political change. You have every right to feel the way you do, but the notion that a functional society can assassinate its way to utopia is not one that I'd like to entertain.
This dream will never be accomplished via peaceful protest alone, but I admire your beliefs!
 
No evidence means it's heresy. Tim pool and the rest were not convicted of anything, those charges were dropped. It's fine if you hate these guys, but don't go around saying stuff like it's 100% true. On the other hand with Ghislaine, she's convicted and there's no question as to why.

Damn it, here goes the derail...
I have no beef with them , but hypocrisy is where I draw the line--Calling yourself an independent journalist while taking millions from russians? It's one or the other

The charges against them were not dropped. If you mean Tim Pool and gang--They were never charged. They claimed they did not know where the money was coming from, which is just how these things work, but who can say

However, The DOJ indictment shows private communication from the Tenet Media founders that they did in fact know the 'fictional European investor' was fake, and they knew all along that all this money was coming from Russia, but they continued to lie about it in order to cover it up

 
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Spineless, all of them.
 
I have no beef with them , but hypocrisy is where I draw the line--Calling yourself an independent journalist while taking millions from russians? It's one or the other

The charges against them were not dropped. If you mean Tim Pool and gang--They were never charged. They claimed they did not know where the money was coming from, which is just how these things work, but who can say

However, The DOJ indictment shows private communication from the Tenet Media founders that they did in fact know the 'fictional European investor' was fake, and they knew all along that all this money was coming from Russia, but they continued to lie about it in order to cover it up

Well, that's just the problem when working with various companies. You don't always know what they're up to, but that doesn't mean it's a direct connection of influencers accepting the money under the premise claimed. Some also have people working on contracts for them, so eh. I'm fine with simply blaming Tenet. But you are right, apparently they weren't charged.

My original question was about Tucker. But again, that bears no relation to the topic of this thread, and you should probably PM if you want to continue this
 
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Spineless, all of them.
Now take this lesson and extrapolate it to literally anything else they say. Even worse than this is listening to them discuss the deficit. They have zero principles. Thats not an insult. They just literally will take any position that is fed to them by the right people.
 
Dude. That is every major covert ops department on the planet.
If MI6 tells you the sky is blue, does it seal that the sky is actually red?

This "they're hiding it if they say nothing, they're lying if they say something" tap dance is a cornerstone of unfalsifiable myths. Where's the actual evidence?


While it's true that the political right has made a bed to lie in with the conspiracy minded base, it doesn't change the fact that this handwringing about the "list" now coming from the other side of the aisle is entirely cynical. They don't believe what they're saying. I've posted multiple links in this thread that are easily verifiable, often from the mainstream media at that. They know the foundations of this stuff is not based on any real facts.

Go ahead and take the political gains, but that's all it is. Grandstanding.

The "mainstream media" doesn't have a side. They want money and that's it.

They're talking about this because this adnin has been talking about it and highlighting it endlessly.

The "media" also doesn't have any more facts than you or I do. It's the people who are claiming to have those facts that need to be accounted for.
 
The "mainstream media" doesn't have a side. They want money and that's it.

They're talking about this because this adnin has been talking about it and highlighting it endlessly.

The "media" also doesn't have any more facts than you or I do. It's the people who are claiming to have those facts that need to be accounted for.
Media does have a side.

CNN and MSNBC ratings have dropped like a rock for years (esp CNN). You'd think they'd change their narrative like a radio station changing format and content. But they still double down on left leaning/anti-Trump content for 10 years.

What they could do is change to be more moderate, or even just go right wing to carve out a portion of Fox viewers for their own. But they dont and stick to their guns. CNN's ratings are so bad sometimes a channel called NewsMax or NewsNation (whatever it's called as I'd never heard of it before as it's a US based channel) gets better ratings sometimes where CNN news viewership actually drops to 4th. And at one time, CNN must had been the numero uno #1 news channel if anyone wanted round the clock news. Even here in Canada when CNN/TBS kinds of channels popped up around 1990 on cable package tiers everyone watched it though it was US skewed. There was no Canadian equivalent so anyone wating to see what's going on in the world or what the sports updates are up to the minute you went to CNN or that CNN 24 hour news channel that rotated content every half hour. I was glued to the TV watching the night vision goggle Desert Storm coverage.
 
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Trump RAN on releasing the Epstein files (and JFK and MLK, etc) ... It was one of his core tenets for reelection....

NOW he's saying it's old news and somehow written by Hilary and Obama (the DEI Boogeyman) and we need to get past it?

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The "mainstream media" doesn't have a side. They want money and that's it.


Money is THE side. And money is not everywhere, it lies in the hands of certain people belonging to certain organizations.

In each important topic regarding our western society, there's a "mainstream opinion" that doesn't come from the holy scriptures but from the schemes of a group of people with transnational interests who tell the media what they can say and what they can't.

We saw this in full force five years ago. There was an official truth (proven a lie over and over) and every media, left and right, went with it because THAT was their side. Free press is not, for sure.
 


It'll be interesting to see if this gets any traction. I don't really trust any of them much but at least Khanna is young enough and not rich enough to have less ties to the billionaire class.

His campaign donors are also relatively less "corporatey" than most of the establishment.
 





lol this was out of pocket


My guess is that Republicans in power are realizing that not only is this a massive losing issue when it comes to how their base views things, but they also want to take credit for their own half-assed way of handling this situation, rather than letting the opposing party have the credit for what would be equally half-assed efforts.




Ultimately, I don't think anything substantial is going to happen, and neither party is going to actually do anything. But what we can have is two groups saying that they're the good ones who want to do things the right way, while the other team is bad and can't be trusted. So politics as usual.

I'm just wondering if we'll at least get as much as a "there is a list, but we can't act on it, because nothing can be proven, so we can't release it either."
 
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I honestly believe there was no assassination attempt. No one's ear regrows tissue/cartilage like that. And in less than 3 weeks it was back to normal? No scarring?

No assassination event? The secret service just shot a random, innocent doofus on a roof? And the three people Thomas Crooks hit with his gun (including the guy who died on the spot) were part of the conspiracy to get Trump reelected?
 

Going to say it: The Daily Mail is not a reputable source for anything. If the NYT, Washing Post, the damned Atlantic hadn't heard of this from days before, they would've corroborated it by now.

Question, assuming they are 1, telling the truth and 2, correct in their assertions: Why? Why would Maxwell do this? Why now instead of before?

This doesn't track.

He was running on this issue in 2024 too. He was on Lex Freidman saying that he'd entertain it. He mentioned to Fox and Friends that he'd look at releasing it. JD Vance went on Theo Von and said that it must be released.

Even after election was over and he's in office, his administration kept teasing it. They even did that whole photo op with a bunch of influencers at the White House.
But everything you're saying demonstrates that Trump himself never really declared it a mainline directive. It was the people interviewing him and the ancillaries riding the campaign trail who made it a thing.

Regardless of how much President Trump was or wasn't running on releasing this information, the general vibe is that people think he was (24:04).


People having mass consensus around an idea does not make that idea true. Much less when those people do not read or even watch/listen in full.

The likes of Schulz are not qualified to or capable of speaking about any of this with any level of rigour or accuracy. I watched some of that episode, and everything was so far off base and lacking in basic sourcing that it wasn't even funny.
 
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errrr what the fuck is going on here

Elon was 'involved' too? is this real Grok?

Elon's best defense is all the rumors that he had a botched penis enlargement and has never slept with any of his paid breeders. If he was on Epstein's island, he was probably just there to awkwardly and aggressively ask underage girls if they want to be artificially implanted with Elon DNA before signing an NDA.
 
Ya how else we gonna pay the 85 yr old cashier's at Walmart that are trying to pay their medical debt.

But we digress

Cant believe y'all hating on my shopping cart, dam

I think your shopping cart is freaking awesome in spite of the social cost of automating entry level jobs into the ether.
 
As always, Elon's algorithm has managed to ruin this in less than a week. I am tired of blocking and muting accounts that retweet or repackage Nick Fuentes covering this stuff. I dont know why I need to be shown clips from literally the scum of society when discussing something as mainstream as this. The guy is a self described racist. You might as well start recommending KKK recruitment videos to everyone.
 
As always, Elon's algorithm has managed to ruin this in less than a week. I am tired of blocking and muting accounts that retweet or repackage Nick Fuentes covering this stuff. I dont know why I need to be shown clips from literally the scum of society when discussing something as mainstream as this. The guy is a self described racist. You might as well start recommending KKK recruitment videos to everyone.
got me curious to see how old boy fuentes is doing

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got me curious to see how old boy fuentes is doing

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This is how they get you. They start off with something you will agree with or laugh along with then before you know it, he starts blaming everything on the blacks and jews because thats who he is, a fucking white supremacist racist prick.

I feel bad for all the kids being fed this nonsense on their feeds. This is how you create a new generation of racist anti-semites.
 
This is how they get you. They start off with something you will agree with or laugh along with then before you know it, he starts blaming everything on the blacks and jews because thats who he is, a fucking white supremacist racist prick.

I feel bad for all the kids being fed this nonsense on their feeds. This is how you create a new generation of racist anti-semites.
I wasn't kidding about my first Grok comment in here. It was literally just summarizing right wing sources and influencers and it turned into Mecha Hitler. That's what it means to accurately summarize what all these people are reading without the constant lies or denials, just having an AI read it and summarize is Mecha Hitler. Literally.

Or you know, maybe Fuentes' heart is just going out to everyone lol. 99% of their comebacks are just denials or trolling. Grok just wasn't denying or trolling.
 
All that this 'story' has accomplished is show how voters are easily bamboozled and they quickly they fall into lime to accept the lie. Social media like X is a waste of energy and shows just how powerless people truly are. Empty complaints wasted on deaf ears. No one ever got anything accomplished in life by whining about it, especially on the internet. Social media is basically a big farm that manufactures inaction in this case. It's better to go out into small groups of real life people and speak amongst yourselves. That's how real change is made.
 
What this whole story has proven is that the Republicans and Democrats can work together, very well. Just a shame it's to protect pedophiles, and not to improve their own country.
 
Holy fucking shit, they really have no shame uh?

In italy we say "you have your face like your ass" in these cases.

Never forget

Its so blatant that these peoples are an extension of russian troll farms for sewing discord and at every opportunities try to create a gap and discourse between American population. Social media was a mistake. Once they realized they could pay peoples to spew this nonsense and have followers then its cold war 2.0.
 
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Never forget

Its so blatant that these peoples are an extension of russian troll farms for sewing discord and at every opportunities try to create a gap and discourse between American population. Social media was a mistake. Once they realized they could pay peoples to spew this nonsense and have followers then its cold war 2.0.
Some times i understand the hook of anarchism.

Even when you have clear proof of wrong doing, you can't do shit in this "civilized" world.
 
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