Punished Miku
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Release everything pertaining to the investigation and arrest whoever is guilty of crimes. Clear enough for you? Or do you have more hot bullshit to smear in this thread to protect pedophiles.
There is no Epstein Client List
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The_Observer
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Me? That's what I have been waiting for years now. You should read before you post your thoughts that you think are so clever
E-Cat
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I don't recall a single left-leaning poster in this thread saying that the Epstein files shouldn't be released or that the Democrats who are pedo shouldn't be punished.
Do you know who doesn't want to release the files? Your precious Trump.
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IlGialloMondadori
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Then what's your problem? We're in agreement. Release them.Me? That's what I have been waiting for years now. You should read before you post your thoughts that you think are so clever
The Sum of Zero
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The_Observer
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See, that's what I'm talking about. Your TDS even prevents you understanding what I'm saying. I don't fucking care if it's Trump, Obama or whoever committed these horrible things, I wan't EVERY "elite" that do this to go down. What I called out is that for many of you this is just a means to an end, which is the fall of Trump, nothing more. You don't care what this thing causes for everyone in the world and especially to the firsthand victims, you just want this one person to fall, who cares about anything else…
Punished Miku
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You've made up a lot of BS about what you think I think. You're not a mindreader and none of this has anything to do with this thread.
Do you have anything to add at all? Evidence on Clinton? Evidence on Obama? Evidence on Gates? Evidence on Trump? Any kind of actual update? Anything but your whining that people are mean to Trump?
You're totally full of shit dude. Have you ever voted or are you such an enlightened centrist that you abstain from all partisanship? How do you even order a coffee when they ask you cream or sugar? They're both equally valid. Funny that you're a zen monk when Trump is in the hot seat for being a massive sex trafficking pedophile and is lying to everyone about it to prevent justice for everyone involved.
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E-Cat
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Well, that's just pure conjecture. Or, more likely, projection based on how you would be feeling if the tables were turned and it was a Democratic president. You theorize that deep inside, everyone is a pom-pom waving partisan like yourself, with no deeper core principles.
IlGialloMondadori
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You're making a lot of assumptions.
Also, if you don't care, then why are you spending so much time deeply caring that it might hurt Trump?
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The_Observer
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Like I said, beyond saving. Feel free to continue your TDS circlejerk. The only problem is that it makes you mad as hell you can't even think straight.
Punished Miku
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Yeah dude, Trump being guilty of pedophilia is derangement. That's your contribution.
Feel free to participate if you have something of value to say.
Toons
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My dude Trump did this to himself. Maybe your problem starts there instead of here
E-Cat
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I guess Trump has TDS since he was only cockteasing the files as a means to score political points against the opposing party and doesn't care about taking down the elites (i.e. himself) and doesn't care about the firsthand victims, also his victims.
Look inward and see your redemption arc is about to begin.
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rm082e
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You are making the claim you know what's inside of our minds. As Miku said, you're not a mind reader.
I'm a father to a 16yo girl. I very much care about teenage girls getting trafficked. I would also like to see every person who is guilty of a crime in Epstein's orbit held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. Whether some people would enjoy the schadenfreude of seeing Trump go down is irrelevant. It's possible to have two feelings at the same time - it's not binary.
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Venom Snake
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Because this is the person who is currently most actively working to defend the interests of pedophiles who could fall along with him.
His administration got Tate brothers out of jail, after all
E-Cat
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What I find paradoxical is The_Observer's simultaneously stating the goal of taking down the pedophile elites, but having hurt feelings over the hypothetical of others expressing schadenfreude over Trump going down, when the only scenario where that would ever happen is if Trump was himself shown to be a pedophile.
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rm082e
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Honestly, I can empathize with long-time Trump supporters who are struggling with this whole Epstein Files thing. They've built up this mythos around him as this character who was on their side. They dismissed and ignored every sign that he wasn't the person they wanted him to be. If you look at some of the discussion about him in the Evangelical community, they literally refer to him as the "imperfect vessel".
For him to get to this point where he turns heel and says the whole thing is an Obama & Clinton hoax, there's nothing to see here, and you've got Bongino and Patel out there telling people "Nope, we were wrong. Move along folks." - It's got to be this identity shattering event. What do they anchor themselves to now?
Punished Miku
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I'd suggest "reality."
These people will have to sort that out themselves though. I don't feel a lot of sympathy personally. The way I read it is that they knew they were hypocritically caving on the same principles they lecture all of society about in a Faustian ends justify the means bargain. They went all in on Trump who they knew is a sexual abuser and felon because they thought they could get what they want. Maybe they can use some of their Christian teachings to look inward at their own culpability about how it got this far and reflect on it.
These are the same people that endlessly went on about how Obama was the antichrist. They're willingly, purposefully misinformed to the point its dangerous. They still can't even figure out global warming is real.
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E-Cat
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Yah, but you can't take any joy in their fall because TDS prevents you from having many simultaneous thoughts -- no, you solely hate him because of the fact that he plays for the wrong team, not because he's a shitty snake-oil salesman huckster, malignant narcissist, pathological liar, business fraud, dark triad creep, raper of women and children, a threat to world peace, torturer of immigrants, enemy of science and the environment, with the most obnoxious personality and fake sun tan you've ever seen. And because it hurts The_Observer's feelings. Mainly that.
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SlimySnake
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I dont know if trump is a pedo, but he's certainly acting like one. Just release the goddamn files. We know he's a womanizer. We've seen the access hollywood tapes, we've seen him cheat on all three of his wives, we've seen him fuck pornstars. No one cared. He got elected twice. He has nothing to lose if it comes out that he was having sex with the same women as Epstein, unless of course, those women were underaged. Which i doubt because he had FBI agents pulled from the field and pulling in 24 hour shifts combing through the Epstein files looking for his name just a few weeks ago. he wouldve tried to bury it beforehand.
This is just him fucking up as usual. He's dumb as a rock and his actions are making things look worse for him than they are probably are in reality. Biden's AG couldve released the files before the election. I believe they were sealed till January 2024, so a good 10 months before the election.
One thing I will say is that Trump did admit to going backstage watching naked teenagers at his pageant. There was a NY Times article in 2016 that interviewed some of these girls and they said that he would try and steal a kiss on the lips as they would lean in to kiss him on the cheek. But thats as far as their accusations went. he did this every year for 20+ years, and none of the miss teen contestants accused him of more than just sneaking in a kiss on the lips like a creep. All of this was out in the open 9 years ago and he still got elected twice. Maybe he's too stupid to understand that his people dont give a fuck what he does.
This is just him fucking up as usual. He's dumb as a rock and his actions are making things look worse for him than they are probably are in reality. Biden's AG couldve released the files before the election. I believe they were sealed till January 2024, so a good 10 months before the election.
One thing I will say is that Trump did admit to going backstage watching naked teenagers at his pageant. There was a NY Times article in 2016 that interviewed some of these girls and they said that he would try and steal a kiss on the lips as they would lean in to kiss him on the cheek. But thats as far as their accusations went. he did this every year for 20+ years, and none of the miss teen contestants accused him of more than just sneaking in a kiss on the lips like a creep. All of this was out in the open 9 years ago and he still got elected twice. Maybe he's too stupid to understand that his people dont give a fuck what he does.
Boo Who?
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Uhm, the Democrats had those files for the last four years and didn't release them. IMO, neither side wants them released because they believe it will cause too many issues economically, in other words they lose their power. I personally believe that it will make the world better economically, because they lose their power. I don't care who is in there. Release it, arrest them all.
Personally, I don't think Trump's name is in those files, because the Dems would have put that shit in neon if he was. They tried killing him twice, changed laws to try and arrest him, etc. If he was legitimately
in the files, putting that out there would have destroyed him immediately.
Smiggs
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What kind of revisionist history is this? The Democrats tried to have him assassinated???
E-Cat
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That's Democrat politicians, not the people in this thread that don't want them released.
A lot of powerful Democrats are bound to be in those files. According to Elon, people like Bill Clinton, Bill Gates and Reid Hoffman.... I wouldn't be surprised if dozens of prominent Dem politicians and donors were in there. The thing about the Epstein files is that due to their explosive nature, one party can't just release some of it piecemeal, like every mention of Trump (that have now been earmarked by the Trump admin from what I understand), because then they would be rightly crucified for being political hacks. It's an 'all or nothing' deal, which is the reason no one has released them yet. Too many people implicated.
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Punished Miku
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Tons of democrats, tons in Hollywood. And Trump, who ran with that crowd in the 90s. I'd bet it's more democrats than republicans. Release all that shit and we can find out. The arrests would probably reduce the median age of Congress 10 years.
12Goblins
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imagine the level of brainwashing it takes for people to defend deep state pedophiles
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12Goblins
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We already know he's in the files, more than once, and that he's going to great lengths to try and bury that, yet here you are, still coming to the defense of an alleged billionaire pedophile. I'd probably just stay silent while this plays out, maybe this will blow over since there's enough people like you who are willing to delude themselves and let a convicted sex trafficker's with multiple perjuries walk free as long as her testimony exonerates trump. stop sacrificing your integrity to protect your identity
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I think the key is to avoid attacking other posters directly, making broad sweeping statements like "all DNC/RNC voters are POS trash", and obviously not posting hate speech. And keep it focused around the topic as much as possible. The "epstein list" has been so blown up in the public imagination it is IMPOSSIBLE to ignore it though I suspect if you could see all of it, it would leave you disappointed with how little concrete evidence is in there. Hell, there are probably gonna be a dozen "yacht parties" in LA and Miami TONIGHT with underaged girls recruited off the streets getting put up to dance, take alcohol/drugs, and pressured into sex with creepy men.
Smiggs
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Yeah, I think we can all agree that we want justice for the victims, and the the guilty thrown behind bars, regardless of where we stand politically. And I think it's important that we all remember that before posting or making things personal.
We've definitely been flying a little close to the sun a few times here
Idleyes
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It's not about some last-minute bombshell against Trump, and it's definitely not about cheering for one political side over the other.
The frustration (at least mine) comes from how the Epstein case has been handled from the start. He was first investigated back in 2005. The FBI found dozens of victims, but in 2008 the DOJ cut him a secret non-prosecution deal that let him serve 13 months in a county jail with work release and register as a sex offender. After that? He went right back to the same shit. For over a decade, with everyone, FBI, state prosecutors and the media, knowing exactly what he was.
When he was finally arrested again in 2019, there were confiscated flight logs, DVDs, properties full of cameras, and a web of people who were around him for years. Yet, when all was said and done, only two people have been held accountable: Epstein himself (who died in custody) and Ghislaine Maxwell. Prince Andrew settled quietly. Everyone else? Nothing. What the fuck was the non-prosecution deal about then?
I know niggas in my hood that got hit with accessory charges after being in the wrong place at the wrong time just because they kept quiet out of fear of getting killed over snitching, even when they had fuck all to do with shit. Yet 14 years after knowing about this guy and cutting him a non-prosecution deal, the FBI can't produce a single accessory? GTFOH.
Boo Who?
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OK retard, what part of "I don't care who is in there, release it and arrest them all" don't you understand. I'm saying I don't think he is in there because they would have already used it against him. If he is in there, then put him in jail with the rest and let Vance run the country. Just because I vote for someone does not make me believe they are infallible. I disagree with several of his decisions and stances, and if he is guilty of something, something legit, then lock him up with the Clintons, Gates, Obama, Biden, all of them. Throw them all in jail to let them know and future politicians that the people are in charge, not them.
Boo Who?
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Kind of wild that the feds still cant get in his phones and that his house was wiped clean before anyone got there. Someone wanted him dead, obviously. Dems, Republicans, probably both.
Boo Who?
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Lol, this is the funniest thing I ever read. Pretty sure I wont have anyone on a fucking videogame forum telling me to stay quiet. I'm not protecting anyone, nor my identity. Ill tell you where i fucking live and my real name if that makes you sleep better at night.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yes, lets talk about Clinton and Larry Summers. by all means. If they were pedos, send them to jail.
Smiggs
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I'm guessing all those pictures and videos of them together over the years are just... AI deep fakes???
Idleyes
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Honestly? I actually believe Trump on this one. From everything I've seen, he cut ties with Epstein around 2004, years before the FBI opened their investigation that eventually led to Epstein's 2008 arrest and that ridiculous non‑prosecution deal.
Does that mean Trump never did anything inappropriate during the time he knew Epstein? I'm not saying that. Until there's proof, it's innocent until proven guilty. The only credit I give him is that he did, in fact, distance himself from Epstein before it all blew up.
That said, IMHO, he's still an idiot and one of the worst presidents this country has ever had and that's saying something when Woodrow Wilson and Andrew Johnson are contenders.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
there are rumors that trump was the one who went to the FBI about him. they had a falling out after getting into a bidding war over some mansion, and then just a year later, FBI caught Epstein for the first time.
Punished Miku
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He does the same random lower case letter psychopath shit that I do
I'm expecting Trump to have Epstein with a heart tattooed on his ass at this point. Has anyone seen his ass recently?
Boo Who?
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Yes, in the new South Park episode. There was nothing there. It was also an A.I. ass so, not sure if that counts.
Toons
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The fact they anchored themselves to trump in the first place kinda makes it hard to sympathize.
You've had to ignore or justify a LOOOOOT of legitimate criticism to be at the point where this is what broke the camels back for you.
And with that ignorance and downplaying comes an inherent lack of sympathy for those affected by his decisions. Not just economically, or politically, but a general, free for all douchebaggery that hes made his signature. A lack of sympathy that was up til now encouraged and lionized, so how being upset that the internet is treating him the same way he's spent the last 15 years treating everyone else... its pretty quaint to me. Hes played the heel for ages, people always wanna see the heel go. Shouldn't be surprising.
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
IlGialloMondadori
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The fuck is in the box, man…
www.thedailybeast.com
Ghislaine Maxwell Leaves DOJ Interview With Mysterious Box
The notorious Jeffrey Epstein associate is set to continue her interview on Friday.
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