There is no Epstein Client List

AJUMP23 said:
Democrat president wsj =
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Republican president wsj =
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Biden wasn't an Epstein friend. And he didn't run on releasing the Epstein files
 
Unfortunatecookie said:
Maybe I'm reading your post wrong, so correct me if I'm mistaken. What do you think a billionaire or a head of state would be able to pay Epstein for his pedophile services?
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1. It is worth mentioning that a significant proportion (and by that I mean at least around half) of the alleged victims that appeared at last week's DC press conference were adults when they claim they ever even came into contact with Epstein. This count includes Annie Farmer and Anouska De Georgiou (16 and 17 at respective time of alleged abuse, and the latter of which continued to stay in contact with Epstein into her 30s, during and after his incarceration in 2008) were not to be considered victims of sex crimes by instruction of the judge in Ghislaine Maxwell's case. Who also did not testify to being trafficked to third parties beyond Maxwell and Epstein. Afaik, at least a slim majority of the public accusers were at or above 20 years old when they claimed to have met either of them.

2. I will again quote Bradley Edwards, the main attorney throughout practically everything post-2008 as it pertains to this.

While many media accounts have hinted that a primary purpose of Epstein's enterprise was to attract young females and lend them out to powerful people in order for him to hold these sexual encounters over their heads as blackmail, that was not really the case. The primary, if not exclusive, purpose of the operation was Epstein's personal sexual gratification. If some of his friends liked what they saw and wanted to partake, Epstein would share with a select few. For those who participated, it incidentally provided ammunition for Epstein to hold over their heads if he ever wanted to, but despite all the speculation, there has been no recovered evidence that he actually used any of this sexual information against anyone in order to get something out of them.
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As you can see here, Edwards doesn't even suggest that Epstein was getting paid by this "select few". And I thought it was about blackmail (which he also rejects), not cash.
A few notes: Edwards fails to mention that the media speculates as such because of his clients. The whole elite trafficking ring idea originates from the non-credible Virginia Giuffre, and later strongly implied by Annie and Maria Farmer - the latter of whom was 26 when she encountered Epstein and Maxwell.

Not one of these "select few" save for Maxwell has actually been found guilty or liable of any wrongdoing in court. A lot of names have already been thrown out there. Giuffre had to recant her claims against Alan Dershowitz, whom she claimed had trafficked her on at least 6 occasions. Bradley Edwards and her other lawyers called the manuscript that she was shopping around a "fictionalized account".

Edwards also went out of his way to reinstate the aforementioned quote at the press conference in DC - adding that any supposed "farming out" would happen when the alleged victims would reach a "certain age".

He clarifies this with supposedly no idea who the names are when calling a press conference after 15 years of litigation, only for one of the adult accusers to tell the audience to anticipate a (confidential) "list" made by accusers. One wonders how it is they haven't come up with a credible one before now.

I can source these things at request, but sources have been referred to as "link spam". All of it to say, it doesn't matter what a billionaire or head of state "could" pay. There was no service to pay into.
 
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Celcius said:
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A letter in the birthday book from Joel Pashcow. Makes a reference to selling a girl and mentions Trump?

"Jeffrey showing early talents with money + women! sells 'fully deprecated' [name redacted] to Donald Trump for $22,500. Showed early 'people skills' too. Even though I handled the deal I didn't get any of the money or the girl!"

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The most scandalous and unnerving aspect is actually how terrible the handwriting is. The sheer horror of it.
 
ProtoByte said:
1. It is worth mentioning that a significant proportion (and by that I mean at least around half) of the alleged victims that appeared at last week's DC press conference were adults when they claim they ever even came into contact with Epstein.
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Some thought experiment: If you were the victim of Epstein and Trump, would you accuse CURRENT PRESIDENT (the most powerful man on the planet right now) on national television?
 
Bojji said:
Some thought experiment: If you were the victim of Epstein and Trump, would you accuse CURRENT PRESIDENT (the most powerful man on the planet right now) on national television?
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You don't get it. The fact that no one has been prosecuted means no one is guilty… case closed

Just ignore cryptic birthday cards from the current Potus to his old pedo 'pal' and candid notes about him purchasing 'fully depreciated' girls. That's just banter ya know
 
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DeafTourette said:
Biden wasn't an Epstein friend. And he didn't run on releasing the Epstein files
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Definitely want them released. And everyone in them burned. Don't forget though that Biden was showering with his 8 year old daughter. Clinton was on the island. And we need to figure out all the others that were.


But even you can admit there is media bias.
 
AJUMP23 said:
Definitely want them released. And everyone in them burned. Don't forget though that Biden was showering with his 8 year old daughter. Clinton was on the island. And we need to figure out all the others that were.


But even you can admit there is media bias.
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I don't know how credible that showering claim is but yes... Name them ALL!
 
DeafTourette said:
I don't know how credible that showering claim is but yes... Name them ALL!
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His daughter wrote it in her diary and the diary is authentic. If you don't want to think it is credible it is because you want to remain ignorant.

www.snopes.com

Did Ashley Biden Call Childhood Showers with Her Father 'Probably Inappropriate' in Leaked Diary?

"I will forever have to deal with the fact that my personal journal can be viewed online," Ashley Biden wrote to a district court judge.
www.snopes.com www.snopes.com

"I will forever have to deal with the fact that my personal journal can be viewed online," Ashley Biden wrote to a district court judge.

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Lets agree that people in power a lot seem to abuse and take advantage of those around them. Party doesn't matter.
 
Going through those documents, it also lists full names and addreses of a lot of people.

And uh... the stuff people wrote for Jeff's birthday in 2003 is kind of... sick. A lot of it is black barred too.

I dunno, all it tells me is that Epstein tried to live the life and got it, but somehow i am more comfortable being caged in doing a 9 to 5 job and not do any of the things Epstein has done.
 
AJUMP23 said:
His daughter wrote it in her diary and the diary is authentic. If you don't want to think it is credible it is because you want to remain ignorant.

www.snopes.com

Did Ashley Biden Call Childhood Showers with Her Father 'Probably Inappropriate' in Leaked Diary?

"I will forever have to deal with the fact that my personal journal can be viewed online," Ashley Biden wrote to a district court judge.
www.snopes.com www.snopes.com



Lets agree that people in power a lot seem to abuse and take advantage of those around them. Party doesn't matter.
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It's because I never heard of it before that I questioned it. But she did, so ok. Thanks for providing the snopes link.

Some parents shower or bathe with their kids... But probably most often before they turn 6. Some parents are naked at home with their kids... Maybe Biden and his wife were such parents. I dunno.

And you and I agree... Eff party! Reveal them ALL! SHAME THEM ALL!
 
ProtoByte said:
1. It is worth mentioning that a significant proportion (and by that I mean at least around half) of the alleged victims that appeared at last week's DC press conference were adults when they claim they ever even came into contact with Epstein. This count includes Annie Farmer and Anouska De Georgiou (16 and 17 at respective time of alleged abuse, and the latter of which continued to stay in contact with Epstein into her 30s, during and after his incarceration in 2008) were not to be considered victims of sex crimes by instruction of the judge in Ghislaine Maxwell's case. Who also did not testify to being trafficked to third parties beyond Maxwell and Epstein. Afaik, at least a slim majority of the public accusers were at or above 20 years old when they claimed to have met either of them.

2. I will again quote Bradley Edwards, the main attorney throughout practically everything post-2008 as it pertains to this.


As you can see here, Edwards doesn't even suggest that Epstein was getting paid by this "select few". And I thought it was about blackmail (which he also rejects), not cash.
A few notes: Edwards fails to mention that the media speculates as such because of his clients. The whole elite trafficking ring idea originates from the non-credible Virginia Giuffre, and later strongly implied by Annie and Maria Farmer - the latter of whom was 26 when she encountered Epstein and Maxwell.

Not one of these "select few" save for Maxwell has actually been found guilty or liable of any wrongdoing in court. A lot of names have already been thrown out there. Giuffre had to recant her claims against Alan Dershowitz, whom she claimed had trafficked her on at least 6 occasions. Bradley Edwards and her other lawyers called the manuscript that she was shopping around a "fictionalized account".

Edwards also went out of his way to reinstate the aforementioned quote at the press conference in DC - adding that any supposed "farming out" would happen when the alleged victims would reach a "certain age".

He clarifies this with supposedly no idea who the names are when calling a press conference after 15 years of litigation, only for one of the adult accusers to tell the audience to anticipate a (confidential) "list" made by accusers. One wonders how it is they haven't come up with a credible one before now.

I can source these things at request, but sources have been referred to as "link spam". All of it to say, it doesn't matter what a billionaire or head of state "could" pay. There was no service to pay into.
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Respectfully, your opinion is just that.

The evidence does not support your assertions. Donald Trump is 100% implicated in the Epstein saga. This is why he's doing everything possible to distract people from looking into it.

With all due respect, the fact that you don't believe rich people pay for illegal things exposes your understanding of reality. You are wrong beyond wrong.
 
DeafTourette said:
Maxwell's lawyer just admitted to a quid pro quo deal with the Trump administration

www.yahoo.com

Ghislaine Maxwell Lawyer Makes Stunning Quid Pro Quo Confession

Arthur Aidala, who represented Jeffrey Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell, admitted the truth about Maxwell’s prison transfer.
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"I can still remember this totally real exchange President Trump and Jeffrey had this one time, it was something like:
- Jeffrey, could you introduce me to some older women? You know I like them mature, can't even get it up if she isn't 50+
- Come on Donald, you are always pestering me about getting you older women, but let me see what I can do. By the way, I want you to know I keep no client list and if I ever get put in jail I'll kill myself
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Man, the fact people in the legislative are dismissing the letter as a fake is WILD. I can only imagine the magnitude of the power behind the power keeping everyone in line...
 
DeafTourette said:
Maxwell's lawyer just admitted to a quid pro quo deal with the Trump administration

www.yahoo.com

Ghislaine Maxwell Lawyer Makes Stunning Quid Pro Quo Confession

Arthur Aidala, who represented Jeffrey Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell, admitted the truth about Maxwell’s prison transfer.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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Anyone with two brain cells could have seen this coming, why else would they move Maxwell out to a different, less restrictive, prison?

This is leading towards a pardon, or at least a pardon request, in a few weeks / months.
 
Is anyone else's mind blown at the level of sleaze and corrouption in America's highest office today? I mean, this is approaching Russian/Chienese levels of cover up.

No wonder the world is fucked.
 
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Sybrix said:
Is anyone else's mind blown at the level of sleaze and corrouption in America's highest office today? I mean, this is approaching Russian/Chienese levels of cover up.

No wonder the world is fucked.
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Not that surprising honestly. America is controlled by $$$. Politicians are bought and sold. This was decades in the making. Trump is more of a symptom than a cause. American middle class has been getting squeezed so hard, huge disparity in access to education (America is mediocre in terms of basic math and reading/writing for the average person), lack of good healthcare coverage. Billionaires have made their fortunes on the backs of hard working folks, and then find ways of not paying their fair share, instead they funnel their money into elections to give them more power. Then Trump comes along saying he is not beholden to corporate interests and he will fight for everyone. Of course he is cut from the same cloth and uses the office to enrich himself, giving further a massive tax cut to the wealthy while tossing scraps to the middle/lower classes to make them think they got a good deal. You also have massive misinformation to keep people in line and hooked to news media, notably Fox is egregious but other networks certainly play a similar game (though at a much lesser scale). If all else fails you use religion to keep people in line. When things are rough people turn to God to make sense of the chaos. When you have vulnerable folks who were denied proper education, when they are just scraping by and anxious about getting ill, pushing religion is an extremely powerful method of control, hence being a core part of Project 2025.

So taking that into consideration, why is Trump able to get away with covering for extremely wealthy and powerful pedophiles? Because the system was set up for it. Some folks have been squeezed and manipulated so hard their perception of reality is controlled by whatever he says next. So if he says Epstein scandal is a democratic hoax, plenty of them will buy it, go to church and pray, and then lay in bed anxious at night hoping for a better tomorrow.
 
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El Muerto said:
Crazy drawing from the Epstein birthday book. The plane has Epstein's aircraft number written on it. Location looks like Mar a Lago.
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www.theguardian.com

Epstein 50th birthday book: who is in it and what did they say?

Figures including Donald Trump, Bill Clinton and the UK ambassador to US, Peter Mandelson, apparently contributed
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Is the implication that it's the same girls between the pictures? I'm not fully getting it.

Or that a poor guy is now running his own sex island after 20 years ?
 
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Why does this keep happening?






  • Schumer's amendment aimed to release Epstein files within 30 days
  • Hawley and Paul joined Democrats in supporting the measure
  • Trump administration has labelled Epstein issue a Democrat-led hoax
WASHINGTON, Sept 10 (Reuters) - U.S. Senate Republicans narrowly turned away a surprise effort on Wednesday by Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer to force a vote on a measure ordering the Trump administration to release its files on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

An amendment introduced by Schumer, requiring the Justice Department to release all Epstein files within 30 days, threatened to foist a controversy dogging President Donald Trump onto Senate Republicans who have so far avoided a debate that has overshadowed the House of Representatives for weeks.

The lawmakers voted 51-49 to table the measure, with hardline Republican Senators Josh Hawley and Rand Paul joining Democrats who voted to keep the measure alive. Republicans hold a 53-47 seat Senate majority.
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