They want to rehsape our cultural landscape but our entertainment is more important than politics

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Explosive Zombie

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Take what they attempted with Gone with the Wind, the movie will endure past the political climates, our entertainment always lasts longer than current political attitudes but the problem becomes when those political attitudes turn on the entertainment. Check this out and tell me if you think it's totally swell that people are doing things like this?


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Barnabot said:
wtf is wrong about that movie so they sky cinema can claim it has outdated attitutdes and may offend someone? pretend that i'm 12.
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That's a pretty good question, maybe they didn't like the exchange between Vasquez and Hudson...

"Hey, Vasquez, you ever been confused for a man?" - Hudson
"No, have you?" - Vasquez, totally owning him
 
That's what you get when you pay to subscribe to a corporate curated entertainment media service. These people have a need to virtue signal that my Bluray player doesn't, so I tend to go with that platform.
 
Own that shit on physical media

Digital rights is setting culture back. This is like medieval times when they would deplatform people by burning their books on public.

Destroying media only results in cultural ignorance
 
Explosive Zombie said:
That's a pretty good question, maybe they didn't like the exchange between Vasquez and Hudson...

"Hey, Vasquez, you ever been confused for a man?" - Hudson
"No, have you?" - Vasquez, totally owning him
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i see no problem with that but i can see a lot of problems with whoever feels offended by that line in that scene.

i wonder what could be the ideal attitude to be presented in that movie?
 
I'm really drawing a blank on what could earn that content warning for Aliens.
 
I think it's self-defeating. If They want to reshape our culture, imploding their own tools of cultural subversion seems to work in the opposite direction. Why are They outing their own celebrities as pedos and liars? Why are They removing their own content? Why are they kneeling and apologizing for syrup bottles?

To me, this reads less like "cultural subversion" and more like one big narcissistic church-service where a bunch of elites suck eachother off and show how moral they are. But because it's a hollow, consumerist "morality", it looks empty to onlookers and turns the stomach a bit.

Here's a personal story from growing up in a conservative christian home. I find it ironic because I think it would be considered more tolerant than what we see on Twitter nowadays.

When I was a kid my parents taught me that athletes and entertainers can be great role models, but they can also be awful people. Earning a world record in a sport, or earning an oscar, or making a lot of money on a TV series doesn't make you a good or a bad person. The very very best examples are sometimes enshrined as inspirational stories, but otherwise they are just entertainers. Often they make great entertainment but are scumbags behind the scenes.

They also taught me that it's okay. People are imperfect. Enjoying a movie by someone who has bad morals doesn't make you evil, or learning from an athlete who isn't a christian doesn't make you a bad christian. Worrying about the log in our own eye is more important than the speck in our neighbor's, and especially the speck in the eye of someone 1000 miles away we've never met.

The West forgot this "simple-minded" moral lesson.
 
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If I were transported to the 80's, I think I would be able to handle its culture just fine, despite being a late millennial.

The fact that they are people, of my age or more, that just can't watch anything before 2012 without feeling utterly offended, and that need those sorts of "warnings", makes me worried.
 
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It really is something. There seems to be a war on entertainment the past few years. I don't really get the endgame behind it, but it's been so egregious within the past 1-2 years specifically. What's sad is that the people controlling the narrative are succeeding at making this type of shit "the new normal". It's easy enough for me to just laugh off the "warning" on Aliens, but the fact that we're just saying "ha ha, how stupid" instead of actively engaging and demanding this bullshit to stop means it's working, really well too. Same stuff is going on in video games.
 
We have people nowadays who believe that buying a videogame with a cast of diverse characters is a moral decision.

While I'm sure some would wrinkle their nose at returning to cultural christianity, please at least replace it with something equally sound and constructive. The modern secular church is changing syrup bottles and boxed rice and then trying to pass it off as a deeply moral decision.

What a joke.
 
Pejo said:
It really is something. There seems to be a war on entertainment the past few years. I don't really get the endgame behind it, but it's been so egregious within the past 1-2 years specifically. What's sad is that the people controlling the narrative are succeeding at making this type of shit "the new normal". It's easy enough for me to just laugh off the "warning" on Aliens, but the fact that we're just saying "ha ha, how stupid" instead of actively engaging and demanding this bullshit to stop means it's working, really well too. Same stuff is going on in video games.
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There's no endgame, it's just progressive (in the political and non-political sense) attempts to get more feel-good points from their peers (aka npcs following trends).

Giantbomb is a good example. Its core staff was made up of the bleached tips, edgy, "fuck you I'll say what I want" crowd in the early 2000's. It's what got them recognition from their peers, so it's what they did. Come 2010, they start veering into a completely opposite system of beliefs. They claim it's a sign of maturity, but if it was, the entirety of games journalism wouldn't have made the same shift as a consolidated unit. Instead, it's them being internally consistent--they blindly went along with their immediate peers in the 2000s by bleaching their hair, and they're going with them now by virtue signalling.

The ultimate progression is "I have thoughts about this topic." -> "A person who is more affected by this topic than me has entered my social group." -> "I'm going to blindly replace all of my opinions with whatever this person says is 'the truth'." -> "I'm going to look for ways to signal that I'm extolling the truth that the group has accepted, in the hopes of solidifying my spot within the group."
 
I saw recently that Back to the Future on Netflix had been edited to remove two lines and part of a porn magazine or something (It's been forever).

I feel like this is just the beginning. Now we're getting into altering the classics.

Buying hard copies of your favorite books, games, movies, music, etc., looks like the way to go.
 
I think the funniest part is that Signourney was nominated for her role in this, partially because of what the role did for feminism. Yesterday's progress is today's problematic.
 
It's the dethroning god step. God doesn't have to be the Christian deity here, it can be any foundational authority figure, like the first president of our country

It's the end result of postmodernism, which declares that meaning is dead and nothing new can be created.
 
ArchdukeChocula said:
There's no endgame, it's just progressive (in the political and non-political sense) attempts to get more feel-good points from their peers (aka npcs following trends).

Giantbomb is a good example. Its core staff was made up of the bleached tips, edgy, "fuck you I'll say what I want" crowd in the early 2000's. It's what got them recognition from their peers, so it's what they did. Come 2010, they start veering into a completely opposite system of beliefs. They claim it's a sign of maturity, but if it was, the entirety of games journalism wouldn't have made the same shift as a consolidated unit. Instead, it's them being internally consistent--they blindly went along with their immediate peers in the 2000s by bleaching their hair, and they're going with them now by virtue signalling.

The ultimate progression is "I have thoughts about this topic." -> "A person who is more affected by this topic than me has entered my social group." -> "I'm going to blindly replace all of my opinions with whatever this person says is 'the truth'." -> "I'm going to look for ways to signal that I'm extolling the truth that the group has accepted, in the hopes of solidifying my spot within the group."
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I love the acknowledgement here that it's not solely modern leftism that's the problem. That there's fundamental problems, even from two decades ago, with humanity itself, that allowed this ideology to take over so rapidly.
 
Honestly, with how often Alien and Aliens are used to point out how utterly wrong the modern media is about 'underlying misogyny' in their male audiences, I'm not surprised they've started trying to make it seem shameful and ist-aphobic.
 
When did people become such pussies? How is it that we've gotten to the point where corporations and movie studios need to explain that the movies are a product of their time?

Is there lead in our drinking water? Does corn syrup make people stupid?
 
You'd think a movie with a female lead IN THE 80s would be celebrated for being ahead of it's time for something something representation?
 
Just remembered another exchange...

"Want to get me some more of that Artillian(sp?) poon tang!"
"Yeah, but the one you had was a male!"
"Doesn't matter if it's Artillian!"
 
Yoda said:
You'd think a movie with a female lead IN THE 80s would be celebrated for being ahead of it's time for something something representation?
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They defaced and tore down statues of abolitionists and removed images of successful black millionaires from products.

To say they are "firing blind" is an understatement.
 
I wait for the inevitable moment when life itself needs a disclaimer:
"Might not be suitable or be offensive to some spectators."
 
I feel like it will end up ruining tv and movies for me, I have already stopped watching most stuff and really I am fine with never watching TV and movies again if it comes to it. I can go weeks and months as it is now without turning on my TV or watching anything
 
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I really hope there is a huge backlash to this nonsense in my lifetime.
 
So back in the 90s we had Tipper stickers put onto music. Worse yet, places like Walmart sold censored versions of albums. This is the new Tipper sticker for the modern age:
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Instead of "Pearl-Clutcher," we need a term that identifies easily offended Millennials. Maybe "Puka Shell Clutcher."
 
Zefah said:
I really hope there is a huge backlash to this nonsense in my lifetime.
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TRUMP is the backlash. The current casserole of nonsense is the pendulum swinging wildly back the other way. Once it swings back "our" way, we gonna get SUPERTRUMP.
 
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