This is the Best Time for Gaming

Ridiculous take

This has been by far the worse time for games:

- Games not only cost more, they also ask you money after your purchase. Skins that would be a secret or a challenge reward are now shipped on an online score.
- Games now sold its identity/mood to sell shitty silly skins/effects so they can get more money. Aesthetic integrity is throw up from the window so they can get more money. And even worse, even if you buy a game at first they can (and probably will) fuck it in later updates. Case: with MW19 they promises to maintain the aesthetic of the game. This lasted like 3 months.
- Everything is seasoned impulsed with FOMO. Most of stuff challenge is gated with a timer so you MUST play THIS video game. Got something else to do? Too bad, unless... you can spare a coin ofc. Playing a game is almost like a work now.
- We are full of activists that not only impulse their ideas on other people, they usually have crap ideas and parade them like they are the brightest people in the world. Sometimes they even hijack others people work and use for their own agency like what localization have been doing.
- Invaders/Tourists are now joining communities only to stir drama and political issues transforming places were you can talk about something the game into a place full of insufferable new comers. GG Strive (and probably the whole IP) will never recover from these past years.
- Ownership of games have been almost destroyed... on PC it is almost impossible to actually own the thing that you pay. Yes, Steam is awesome and GabeN an angel that loves games. But he is not forever. And on a similar topic: Always online games will just close their servers and good bye to your crap.
- Games just optimized to being a consume product rather than something to enjoy: Corpos have decided that games are not to be enjoyed, they are to be consumed. This way just having endless content is way better than just a 1 release game. Example: on previously Gran turismo games you would just finish what you liked and then, when there is nothing more, explore. Try events with cars that you didnt like. Not any more, you will just get more content. On paper is awesome, but in reality it makes games and endless task and forces devs to just push content rather that a good designed game. And this have fried "gamers" as well, people will claim "[X] game failed because season 1 was too long/delayed/bad"... no, a game doesnt need infinite "seasons", you are just addicted to getting a flash screen with "NEW!" on it. Counter-Strike still uses the same map, people still exploring the world of Oblivion/Skyrim, or crafting new stuff on Breath of the Wild.
-Expanding this point, corpos have discover (with like CoD 4 tbh) that they can trigger your brain to make you addictive to their products with possitive feedback. Why there are always "legendary", "epic" and "common" types of shit even if they get outclassed immidietly? because the system must reward you from time to time. This is why you level up and games are easy. They werent the first, but Destiny 2 started exploiting this on a proffesional level even hiring a psicologist to develop a better "engagement" with the player.
- You can just take your time... You really liked a game? You better rush it. Just now, people are already posting spoilers and video with all secrets/endings/characters of DooM The Dark Ages... and the game is not even out. The same happened with the last DLC of Eternal, people will try to get the views/likes/reposts by blatlanlty puting spoilers of whatever game is trending. And if you have lapse in judgement and take the bad decision of just googling/searching a video a review or just liking some official posts of it, you are on the algorythm now. So now you can just take your time (add this to the endless task of live service games ofc) to finish a game or just enjoy it by doing all side quests. No, you must dedicate your time to it and finish it as soon as possible.
-Standarization of games: 2000s games were awesome because devs had enough money and tech to try to make new things. Devil May Cry 1 can show some weird stuff that Capcom tried to do with a clearly RE engine. Demons Souls was even doubt it as something that would resonate with players but was greenlighted. Now everything is standarized so it can appeal to as many people as possible, lowering the difficult bar even more so anyone can thrive. Games are becoming simplier so it can be easier to consume and it can attract more people. A good example of this are MMORPG, specially FFXIV, they abandoned the "virtual world" vibe to become an instant reward machine (told by Yoshi P btw) and following what WoW did instead of being true to what it was with the core designs of FFXI.

"but... there are some great games!"

Yes, but if you look at the 90s-2000s you will see many incredible great games that makes you wonder "why did this blow up!" and then realize that weeks laters another incredible game that become a classic launched, followed by another classic. We used to have incredible quality in games, and even have room for more. Now, there are great thing these times as well. And on the game side just this year we already got some great games like Monster hunre Wilds, Xenoblade Chronicles X and Oblivion remastered (and im missing a lot ofc).

But like you say games are more than graphics and more about fun. Idk if you were there, but community games were great, casual lobbies games were great, midnight release were you will meat other people just as exited as you to play a game were great.

Most games today are better products, but not better games even with all its technical advancement.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh, They do not like truth around these parts.
 
I personally find it to be the absolute worst time in the gaming timeline and by far at that. My earliest gaming memories are of Adventure on the Atari 2600 and of Space Invaders arcade cabinet, so I've been gaming since the very early 1980's.
 
Besides a few bangers like baldurs gate 3, modern games fucking suck with all their woke propaganda and straight up boredom.

PS1/PS2/pc era of that time brought so many gems, where most newer games are forgettable
 
Best time right now

Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 4 with tons of mod options from Nexus.

Stellar Blade and its sequel coming

Space Marine 2 and its sequel

Final Fantasy Rebirth and its sequel

More Resident Evil games.

GTA VI coming and Elder Scroll VI coming after.

Witcher 4 and Fallout 5 coming.
Dude, the hell?

What is out right now to cheer about. NOT what is coming down the pipe. Shit, TES 6 has been coming since 2018, seven years and counting. You do know that will not release this generation right? That will be a game that has been in the oven for three generations of consoles by the time it releases. Fallout 3 and New Vegas were PS3 era games, and Fallout 4 PS4 era. What generation you talking about, your lifetime? What timeline are we sloting all these games into. Ive played some of these titles for decades, Deck-aides!
 
What is out right now to cheer about.

This makes me think - What do you mean by "right now"? There are thousands and thousands of game available for purchase atm but that's clearly not what you mean. Do you mean within like the las5 3 years or three months or this gen?

This would actually contextualize a lot of the opinions on here. For me, "right now" is precisely anything I can get my hands on. I don't really care if the new oblivion is a remake of an an old game. Or whatever is supposed to disqualify g-police on ps+. Or if stellar blade came out a whole 18 months ago. Some people are clearly talking about a window of time that only goes back so far, though.
 
This makes me think - What do you mean by "right now"? There are thousands and thousands of game available for purchase atm but that's clearly not what you mean. Do you mean within like the las5 3 years or three months or this gen?

This would actually contextualize a lot of the opinions on here. For me, "right now" is precisely anything I can get my hands on. I don't really care if the new oblivion is a remake of an an old game. Or whatever is supposed to disqualify g-police on ps+. Or if stellar blade came out a whole 18 months ago. Some people are clearly talking about a window of time that only goes back so far, though.
I would say anything that has released within certain criterea:

1: Has released for a current generation of console, or GPU technology moving forward,
  • keyword currently on market and not superseded by a replacement model ie: ps5, not ps4/3/2/1, not Xbox One/360/OG not within the last two generations of GPU ( radeon 7xxx/9xxx, Geforce 4xxx/5xxx)
2: has not released in the past generations of consoles / PC gpu technology.
  • This would eliminate all remakes remasters and relaunches
  • This is pure nostalgia baiting and obviously has a pedigree of previous exposure
3: Sequels would be allowed since they can push an IP forward or introduce new mechanics (think Doom > Doom Eternal > Doom The Dark Ages) each bringing in their own crowd of fans.


This eliminates pure bloating of product libraries by putting out products as stop gaps to dry release windows. It also allows new releases to stand on their own feet in an industry rife with past pedigree showing them how it CAN be done. We do this with Hollywood and the music industries, so why not video games?
With that said, no future posturing (hyping unreleased games), and no grandstanding on already released games that have a place in history to prop up a current window of time. I would not participate in a conversation that uses legendary games released in 1998, 2006, etc to prop up shit release windows in 2023/24.

Also, I doubt you could play anything that far back without a significant investment in hardware or mods (PC) to make them workable.

1 offs like BG3 in 2023, Elden Ring in 2022 does not excuse the entire year's of releases in the industry as a whole. Larian/From doesn't deserve that kind of Atlas'ian task.
 
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I would say anything that has released within certain criterea:

1: Has released for a current generation of console, or GPU technology moving forward,
  • keyword currently on market and not superseded by a replacement model ie: ps5, not ps4/3/2/1, not Xbox One/360/OG not within the last two generations of GPU ( radeon 7xxx/9xxx, Geforce 4xxx/5xxx)
2: has not released in the past generations of consoles / PC gpu technology.
  • This would eliminate all remakes remasters and relaunches
  • This is pure nostalgia baiting and obviously has a pedigree of previous exposure
3: Sequels would be allowed since they can push an IP forward or introduce new mechanics (think Doom > Doom Eternal > Doom The Dark Ages) each bringing in their own crowd of fans.


This eliminates pure bloating of product libraries by putting out products as stop gaps to dry release windows. It also allows new releases to stand on their own feet in an industry rife with past pedigree showing them how it CAN be done. We do this with Hollywood and the music industries, so why not video games?
With that said, no future posturing (hyping unreleased games), and no grandstanding on already released games that have a place in history to prop up a current window of time. I would not participate in a conversation that uses legendary games released in 1998, 2006, etc to prop up shit release windows in 2023/24.

Also, I doubt you could play anything that far back without a significant investment in hardware or mods (PC) to make them workable.

1 offs like BG3 in 2023, Elden Ring in 2022 does not excuse the entire year's of releases in the industry as a whole. Larian/From doesn't deserve that kind of Atlas'ian task.

That's a lot of qualifiers. But the point is it's much easier to know where you're coming from.

I'm going to narrow mine down from "anything I can play" to "anything commercially available". So no old ebay carts, no emulators, etc.
 
IMO gaming is great in these times. Banger after banger. I don't miss the old times because we have good new games and Remasters/Remakes.
 
I sir ....... disagree.

There is absolutely nothing of interest for me out now / this year.
That sucks. You must play like one genre because 2025 is setting itself up as the best year in game since the ps2 era for me.

I'm even getting niche dream games I would've never got greenlit like a hunter x hunter fighting game. wtf!?

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Animal well
Oblivion remastered
Kingdom come deliverance 2
Fatal fury city of the wolves
Doom Dark Ages
Tunic
Ass Creed Shadows
Ninja Gaiden 2 Black

Just these games I've played so far this year and am like woah. Animal well came out last year but still and tunic is older.

I still have games like:
Mgs 3 delta
Borderlands 4
Elden Ring night reign
Tainted grail fall of Avalon
Ark raiders
Death stranding 2
Hades 2
Metroid prime 4
Donkey Kong Bananza
Complete Zelda totk in 60fps
Ninja Gaiden 4

I mean this year I'm missing a ton of shit I'll probably end up playing but that list above is staggering. It makes up for a decade of years.

My wallet can't keep up.
 
Even if you don't like today's games, all the games from yesteryear are widely available and at higher quality than at any time in the past.

That alone makes it the best time. Almost all of gaming history is available at low price and high quality.
 
That sucks. You must play like one genre because 2025 is setting itself up as the best year in game since the ps2 era for me.

I'm even getting niche dream games I would've never got greenlit like a hunter x hunter fighting game. wtf!?

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Animal well
Oblivion remastered
Kingdom come deliverance 2
Fatal fury city of the wolves
Doom Dark Ages
Tunic
Ass Creed Shadows
Ninja Gaiden 2 Black

Just these games I've played so far this year and am like woah. Animal well came out last year but still and tunic is older.

I still have games like:
Mgs 3 delta
Borderlands 4
Elden Ring night reign
Tainted grail fall of Avalon
Ark raiders
Death stranding 2
Hades 2
Metroid prime 4
Donkey Kong Bananza
Complete Zelda totk in 60fps
Ninja Gaiden 4

I mean this year I'm missing a ton of shit I'll probably end up playing but that list above is staggering. It makes up for a decade of years.

My wallet can't keep up.


Tries games, finds great ones, plays the shit out of them. Arsic is good at gaming. Learn from Arsic.
 
A list filled with remakes and ports of older decent games.

Nothing in the past 5 years can compete with the ps1 /2 eras of awesome games flooding the market month to month. That was probably the best time if you wanted constant releases of great games most of which spawned great series that lasts years after.

What new games that came out 5-6 years ago that spawned great sequels ? Not many.
Only 8 of the 63 games he listed are remakes..... Seems like a pretty low bar for "filled with remakes."
And honestly I love remakes when they are just that, a complete reinvisioning of the game. Persona 3 Reload and Resident Evil 2 Remake are like my favorite games of 2023 and 2018.
Remasters I can take or leave, but I am also 50 hours into Oblivion Remastered so even those can hit.
And None are ports of older games. Besides Baldur's Gate 3 (a 2023 game) those are all games that released in 2024 until now + upcoming games.
 
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I really depends on what you like. There are parts of gaming that are in a dark age and others that are in a golden age.
 
Worst gen by a landmile, Sony for me has been a no-show in the first party department with bad sequels, lazy remasters, gaas bullshit and wokeness, and is been carried by second party. MS noped out and just now is beginning to recover mainly boosted by act/blz/bethesda games, their own old studios handfull of games barely interest me.

Western gaming in general has taken a deep dive in quality and just like movies has embraced the woke movement and gone to shit.

The time of development vs quality is not matching and we have fewer games, long to develop and are worse, I would bet that DEI hiring practices finally took its toll and will continue to fuck things up for quite sometime.

I never played so little of my console.

The positive point is the appearing of new asian studios in korea and china, and also some classic Japan studios picking up the pace.
 
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However, I have to say as a gamer, this is the best time to be a gamer.
In 360/Ps3 era we had brown/gray, washed out textures, growing pains for HD games.
Now we have woke garbage with a lot of DEI propaganda and rainbows everywhere. I'd take brown/grey textures over that anytime.

Remember fun? Not just the graphics, but fun.
You mean fun as no identity politics and self-inserts in games, where games were focusing on great gameplay, appealing characters and an interesting story? Yeah, I remember that. Has been a long time.

Do you agree? Disagree?
lol.

This is by far the worst time for gaming. Thank God there are Asian publishers that still create great games. Otherwise I'd abandon that hobby entirely and move on to somthing else. I hope the western gaming industry goes to shit ASAP. Fuck Ubisoft, EA, ND and everyone involved in that shitshow.
 
Now we have woke garbage with a lot of DEI propaganda and rainbows everywhere. I'd take brown/grey textures over that anytime.


You mean fun as no identity politics and self-inserts in games, where games were focusing on great gameplay, appealing characters and an interesting story? Yeah, I remember that. Has been a long time.


lol.

This is by far the worst time for gaming. Thank God there are Asian publishers that still create great games. Otherwise I'd abandon that hobby entirely and move on to somthing else. I hope the western gaming industry goes to shit ASAP. Fuck Ubisoft, EA, ND and everyone involved in that shitshow.
If your perceived persecution by "DEI and woke" is ruining gaming for you..... sucks to be you I guess. Sure, really egregious shit (Sweetbaby, Dragon Age i.e.) should be and is called out.
But if you can't enjoy Western games because Oblivion changed body types to 1 and 2, you have issues, and probably are so pent up with angst you can't enjoy much of anything.
 
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Nah the 1990s to early 2000s was. Everyone was trying to innovate, and we got incredibly creative games. Plus a failed game couldn't sink a studio.
 
Anyone who disagrees should just quit gaming and start knitting.

Anyone who starts their sentence with a "Anyone who disagrees" should be sent back to first grade to learn some manners because there is no adult out there with such black or white thinking.

Games are objectively getting better in quality and quality of life areas, but there is little innovation nowadays. I love Baldur's Gate 3, for example, but I can see that there is very few areas it is actually innovating in. But, it is a very polished/high quality game with plenty of unique content, and I like that.
 
Nah the 1990s to early 2000s was. Everyone was trying to innovate, and we got incredibly creative games. Plus a failed game couldn't sink a studio.
To be fair though, I have to admit that the structural design of modern games is generally better. Things like how they guide you and having QoL options.
 
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Anyone who starts their sentence with a "Anyone who disagrees" should be sent back to first grade to learn some manners because there is no adult out there with such black or white thinking.

Games are objectively getting better in quality and quality of life areas, but there is little innovation nowadays. I love Baldur's Gate 3, for example, but I can see that there is very few areas it is actually innovating in. But, it is a very polished/high quality game with plenty of unique content, and I like that.
Imagine taking that post seriously....
 
To be fair though, I have to admit that the structural design of modern games is generally better. Things like how they guide you and having QoL options.

Those are some of the worst things about modern gaming. Plus there is very little " game " to these AAA games these days. They are all just about getting to the next cutscene and meh grafix!!

Like others have said there is very little innovation happing.

Again I say the ps1 /2 eras were better in every single aspect and it's not even close.

Also people don't understand how exciting gaming was at that time. Constant new and exciting technologies and genres. What's exciting now? Nothing that's what.
 
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While we had the classic retro times and PSOne/Ps2 Era (arguably great), we often view times with rose-tinted glasses.

However, I have to say as a gamer, this is the best time to be a gamer.
In 360/Ps3 era we had brown/gray, washed out textures, growing pains for HD games.

But now, consoles like PS5 have fast loading SSDs, tons of games on all consoles and even more to come! (I remember game droughts in long past)
Despite it's price controversy, people are excited about the Switch 2 and the games themselves look fun.

Remember fun? Not just the graphics, but fun.

Baldur's Gate 3... Clair Obsur... Stellar Blade.... tons and tons of great games. And even then, great indie games so you never get bored on consoles and PC!

Do you agree? Disagree?
Absolutely waaaay of the mark, this is nowehere near the best period in gaming, these days you would struggle to get a Motorstorm, Wave Race, a great James Bond game, a great soccer game, tennis even, games like Mass Effect etc are taking longer to get out the door, Halo has lost its way, Konami are trying to relive the glory days with the re-release of Metal Gear 3 when they know they would struggle to make a Metal Gear 6 half as good....games are not allowed to fail these days, take a look at Alone in the Dark, Deus Ex, Dead Space, Guardians of the Galaxy, sequels to these franchises we'll struggle to see unless the "fans" did something and made their own "un-official" sequel....
 
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Those are some of the worst things about modern gaming. Plus there is very little " game " to these AAA games these days. They are all just about getting to the next cutscene and meh grading!!

Like others have said there is very little innovation happing.

Again I say the ps1 /2 eras were better in every single aspect and it's not even close.

Also people don't understand how exciting gaming was at that time. Constant new and exciting technologies and genres. What's exciting now? Nothing that's what.
I understand your point but I disagree. Wouldn't you find frustrating to be forced to play through an entire game just to overcome a challenging section because the difficulty can't be adjusted mid-game?
 
That's a lot of qualifiers. But the point is it's much easier to know where you're coming from.

I'm going to narrow mine down from "anything I can play" to "anything commercially available". So no old ebay carts, no emulators, etc.
fair enough (b^,^)b
 
This generation has been exceptionally good imo.

The biggest reason is backcompat being the norm, so you get the best of this gen and the last few as well. Especially when you count the quality remasters that are coming out.

There's less exclusivity happening now too, so the downside of "choosing wrong" is the lowest it's ever been.

Pricing of software has never been lower either. Even high MSRPs haven't really managed to stop software from getting heavily discounted within months of release.

One has to be very obtuse to think that we're not eating exceptionally good this gen.
 
Gaming has been brilliant since the 386/486 PC / NES days for me.
Still as brilliant as ever, and yeah probably - better than ever, because there's tons of great stuff in all genres coming out all the time, and the old classics are still around too.
I can't believe the folks who says nothing of value is coming out these days though. It's so weird.
But I guess some people fall out of love with gaming in general.
 
Gaming has been brilliant since the 386/486 PC / NES days for me.
Still as brilliant as ever, and yeah probably - better than ever, because there's tons of great stuff in all genres coming out all the time, and the old classics are still around too.
I can't believe the folks who says nothing of value is coming out these days though. It's so weird.
But I guess some people fall out of love with gaming in general.

the best received, highest selling, most regarded games have been remakes of old classics or old series sequels.. some of those not even new.. (example: RE4, Oblivion, GTA5)

What is a great game series that has started in the past 3 - 4 years? 🤔
 
5th gen (ps1/n64/saturn) was the best
dawn of a new era
fucking REBIRTH

before that, you had the snes and genesis, which were great, but obviously shitty if you ever visited arcades
reading about the 5th gen in all the gaming magazines was a religious experience.
anticipating the 5th gen was like being one of those homeless dudes who are always yelling about the next coming of jesus... BUT THEN JESUS ACTUALLY CAME FOR ONCE

heavy ass n64 cartridges and ps1 discs with black coatings
full ass 3d worlds
analog sticks
high quality FMVs
we in the future now, boy

a few years later... boom, dreamcast.
makes the ps1/n64 look retarded.

a year or so after that... boom, ps2.
makes the dreamcast look like a toy.

oh and PC was there too with half life 1, ut99, etc.
and voodoo GPUs.

onslaught of satisfaction
 
a year or so after that... boom, ps2.
makes the dreamcast look like a toy.

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I think this generation has plenty of games to offer, but most of them are very boring and not very creative or risky.

That's what made it great back in the PS1 and PS2 era.
 
the best received, highest selling, most regarded games have been remakes of old classics or old series sequels.. some of those not even new.. (example: RE4, Oblivion, GTA5)

What is a great game series that has started in the past 3 - 4 years? 🤔
Lots of remakes/remasters for sure. But also tons of good new /non sequel or remakes past 3-4 years. Way too many to mention for me, but off the top of my head:

Clair Obscur
Split Fiction
Blade Chimera
Balatro
Animal Well
Kunitsu Gami
Dredge
Citizen sleeper
Lies of P
Avowed
Mouth washing
Black Myth
Blue prince
Elden Ring
South of midnight
The midnight walk
Dave the Diver
Viewfinder
Sea of Stars
Cocoon

Just lots of great stuff in lots of styles.
 
What is a great game series that has started in the past 3 - 4 years? 🤔

Hmm, I've been thinking about this question for a minute here and it's indeed pretty hard to come up with my own. Good list above of course.

New Ip's from this gen I've personally played and loved:
Returnal, Stellar Blade, Paradise Killer, Wanted: Dead (this is like my new favorite game), Puzzling Places

I'm definitely not remembering some stuff. My memory sucks. But I don't think it would be a ton more than that. So not that many. It's still an artificially narrow criteria for me. Some sequels make major leaps while some new ip are "spiritual successors" just copying an old series under a different name.
 
I started on C64 and this era is easily the most bereft of inspiration and vision. Everything is a remake or a reskin. We still get some truly amazing titles, but the tier right below that is nearly bare. Upside is indie are better than ever and finally releasing some stuff I'd put on a high level alongside some AAA greats. The budgets just prevent them from being especially meaty or cutting edge in the graphics department. Hoping AI tools can accelerate that part. I mean, if some of these remote Ubisoft branches can turn in usable work, surely AI can. I think a lot of the really talented senior people have left the big budget space just for QOL reasons. Now it looks like we're training an entire industry of technicians to only use one proprietary toolset. What could go wrong? When the new Halo and the new Elder Scrolls have indistinguishable HUDless screenshots in the forest, remember, you could have prevented this.
 
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