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[Belfast]

Knock on wood, folks.

Seriously, though, Puzzledonkey 4 just opened to the public today. You can go and find it at http://www.puzzledonkey.com.

For those who played last time, you should already be familiar with the format. For those who haven't, its a series of 100 puzzles split across 5 rounds. The brainpower required to solve these puzzles runs the gamut. Not only do you need a fair amount of knowledge, but wit (helps if its British wit), as well. Whether you have neither, one, or both, there's little doubt that the series of conundrums is utterly mindbreaking. Most people never make it to the end of the first round, let alone solve the entire thing. I think I was defeated at some point in Round 3 of the last PD.

Its a good way to waste time, if nothing else, so I urge you to give it a shot. And hopefully, like last time, we can crash the for......errr, help eachother out some, eh?

I'm currently sitting on 1.05, so catch up already!

 

[iapetus]

1.07 without much problem. Not sure I like the puzzles so far as much as last time. Too tricksy.

 

[Belfast]

Hey, iap, does 1.05 require any particularly British knowledge?

 

[iapetus]

1.05 is the names one, isn't it? No. Michael Vick might take offence at the solution, though.

And a spoiler to help out if that doesn't do it for you:

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f(D) = f(R)

 

[iapetus]

And get a move on - I need help with 1.08.

 

[Belfast]

Ahhh, that'd do it! I was being mislead by the clues on their forums.

 

[DarthWoo]

Crap, I'm stumped on just the first question...

 

[iapetus]

First one was more than a little cruel, I thought. Think laterally - both in terms of looking up a skirt, and in terms of starting with A.

 

[Ecrofirt]

same.

Hast to be a lot easier than it appears

 

[Belfast]

You play before, Darth Woo? If not, you should know they're a fan of puns. There's definitely more than one way to interpret the question in 1.01.

 

[DarthWoo]

Well, I had been thinking that perhaps by "looking up a skirt" they meant something like looking them up in a phonebook, and by starting with a, the a was just as in "a (object name not starting with a vowel)", but I'm way off.

 

[pestul]

Crap.. it's not working on Netscape 7.1 at work (only choice I have). On the main page the Donkey comes in and blocks my ability to register.

EDIT: nm.. didn't read down the page.

 

[iapetus]

Well, I had been thinking that perhaps by "looking up a skirt" they meant something like looking them up in a phonebook, and by starting with a, the a was just as in "a (object name not starting with a vowel)", but I'm way off.

Spoiler

For 'way off' read 'almost there'.

 

[DarthWoo]

Spoiler

For 'way off' read 'almost there'.

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I'm hoping that, given the previous warning about British humor, this word I can't think of isn't some idiosyncrasy native only to the Brits...

 

[Ecrofirt]

I'm stuck on 1.01, and I've been trying a similiar path to DarthWoo

 

[Belfast]

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I'm hoping that, given the previous warning about British humor, this word I can't think of isn't some idiosyncrasy native only to the Brits...

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Its not a British-specific word of any sort.

That said, I'm still stuck on 1.06. I know its simple and I know its a SWYS kind of thing, but I'm still just not getting it. If its math terminology or something, I'm going to kick myself.

 

[iapetus]

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I'm hoping that, given the previous warning about British humor, this word I can't think of isn't some idiosyncrasy native only to the Brits...

Spoiler

When I see the number of people in the US who don't know what 'communism' means, or the difference between 'there' and 'they're', or the meaning of the word 'sarcasm', I sometimes think it is...

Belfast:

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You'll be surprised at exactly how EASY 1.06 is. Honestly.

 

[Ecrofirt]

I'd love to be at 1.06 now, but the stupid puzzle has knocked me out in the first round.

 

[pestul]

I've approached 1.01 from seemingly every angle.. argh.

 

[Belfast]

I know, I know its not hard. Its just silly.

And don't worry about being stumped by the first one. There's no way to gauge really how well you're going to do on any of the puzzles since they often test different things. Plus, the first one is always a little tricky because you aren't into the rhythm of things yet. While the overall difficulty of the puzzles gets harder, they do sprinkle some easier ones in here and there. Plus, you might find a puzzle you soar right past while others get stuck on it for a very long time.

Edit: I think 1.06 is giving me trouble simply because I can't get those programming/engineering acronyms out of my head. And I'm not even an engineer!

 

[DarthWoo]

Yeah, unfortunately I'm simultaneously trying to write a Professional Responsibility paper that's due on Tuesday. :-/

"However dubious his actions may appear to the common layman, a proper interpretation of the Model Rules can reveal that these were merely the proper recourse of a seasoned lawyer who only wished to represent his client to the best of his ability." - There's the last sentence in my intro paragraph of a paper in which I'm supposed to defend the lawyer's decisions like counseling the client to destroy documents, concealing a document from a discovery order, etc.

 

[pestul]

It just hit me.. lol

So easy, but it pissed me off.

 

[Ecrofirt]

if it's so easy, then there's no problem sending good hints this way.

 

[Kon Tiki]

What is the point of 1.3? There is no question.

if it's so easy, then there's no problem sending good hints this way.

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The first letter of the word is not A

 

[pestul]

Sweet.. breezed by 1.02..

 

[Ecrofirt]

the obvious answer is phone book, but I've tried that 100 different ways already

 

[Kon Tiki]

the obvious answer is phone book, but I've tried that 100 different ways already

Spoiler

What other book starts with a?

 

[pestul]

the obvious answer is phone book, but I've tried that 100 different ways already

Spoiler

You're actually pretty close..

 

[iapetus]

What is the point of 1.3? There is no question.

There's a word in the picture. You have to enter that word.

 

[Belfast]

the obvious answer is phone book, but I've tried that 100 different ways already

You look skirts up in a phone book? Unless that's actually someone's last name, of course....which would just be weird then.

 

[demon]

1.01 is beating my ass.

 

[Kon Tiki]

There's a word in the picture. You have to enter that word.

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I do not get it. What ever colours do not match up form a word (with the first letter of the colour)? A word without vowels? Or the shapes for a word?

 

[Belfast]

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I do not get it. What ever colours do not match up form a word (with the first letter of the colour)? A word without vowels? Or the shapes for a word?

Spoiler

They like to pull these puzzles a lot. Usually there's a pattern of some such that will form the shapes of letters within the puzzle. For instance, if you had a square grid of any sort, and filled in all of the boxes ringing the outside of the grid, you might see the shap of an "O." This is what you should look for, though the true answer IS a bit trickier than that. Still, I felt I should give this sort of hint because variants of this sort of puzzle pop up pretty often.

 

[demon]

boooo.......1.01 was lame.

Spoiler

Pretty fucking weak to make the word not actually start with A.

 

[Desperado]

Spoiler

What other book starts with a?

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apple?? WTF i dunno!

 

[DarthWoo]

Spoiler

What other book starts with a?

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But you said it DOESN'T start with A?????

 

[Desperado]

wow. that was utterly retarded.

 

[Desperado]

"Dear M. Thenardier,"

lol.

EDIT: ARGH I suck at these! stuck on the second one! The answer SHOULD be "Someday"

 

[Kon Tiki]

Spoiler

They like to pull these puzzles a lot. Usually there's a pattern of some such that will form the shapes of letters within the puzzle. For instance, if you had a square grid of any sort, and filled in all of the boxes ringing the outside of the grid, you might see the shap of an "O." This is what you should look for, though the true answer IS a bit trickier than that. Still, I felt I should give this sort of hint because variants of this sort of puzzle pop up pretty often.

Spoiler

Do I visualize the letters in there current state? If I move then around, i.e. for a solid 'F' with the pink blocks, then the structure of the other letters get mixed up. If I shift a shop, can I leave the boundries or is like of of those shape puzzles with one empty square and you have to make a picture?

 

[Mega Man's Electric Sheep]

Argh, the answer was soooooo simple.

A hint for those who are frustrated...

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The word doesn't start with A, the thing you are trying to name does. What do you use to look up things? Meaning, the first letter of the word isn't A, but it STARTS with A. Think about it

 

[Kon Tiki]

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But you said it DOESN'T start with A?????

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I think you are confused on the meaning of 'starts'. (teee hee I am sooo clever)

 

[iapetus]

"Dear M. Thenardier,"

lol.

EDIT: ARGH I suck at these! stuck on the second one! The answer SHOULD be "Someday"

How's your French?

 

[DarthWoo]

Spoiler

Mr. Weiss’ first questionable act comes even before Mr. Lurie has been sued, during his initial phone call to hire a lawyer. Mr. Weiss, upon learning that Mr. Lurie has hired an independent safety engineer to investigate the accident, recommends that Mr. Lurie order the engineer to destroy practically everything that isn’t part of his final report to the company, in addition to purging his computer. As this takes place before a suit, there has not yet been any discovery order filed. Rule 3.4 governs fairness to the opposing parties. Specifically, “[a] lawyer shall not: (a) unlawfully obstruct another party’s access to evidence or unlawfully alter, destroy or conceal a document or other material having potential evidentiary value … [or] counsel or assist another person to do any such act.” The key here is that this is just a pending proceeding; there is no other party quite yet. The comment to Rule 3.4 notes that some jurisdictions may prohibit the destruction of evidence where a proceeding whose commencement can be foreseen. While Mr. Lurie certainly thinks a proceeding is imminent, there are other avenues Mr. Weiss can take to defend himself. The engineer’s notes and drafts do not necessarily have “potential evidentiary value” and my in fact just be too confusing to burden the opposing parties with. He could actually be doing them a favor.

How does this sound?

 

[Belfast]

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Do I visualize the letters in there current state? If I move then around, i.e. for a solid 'F' with the pink blocks, then the structure of the other letters get mixed up. If I shift a shop, can I leave the boundries or is like of of those shape puzzles with one empty square and you have to make a picture?

Spoiler

Eh...sort of. Yes, you visualize them in their current positions. But this is a very color-oriented puzzle. How much do you know about color channels?

Desperado:

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Pay attention to the day he orders on. Oh, and, by chance, parles vouz frances?

 

[Kon Tiki]

"Dear M. Thenardier,"

lol.

EDIT: ARGH I suck at these! stuck on the second one! The answer SHOULD be "Someday"

Spoiler

Here are the clues: 1) French store, 2) sent on Tuesday, deleivered on Saturday. 3) One extra letter, one wrong letter.

 

[Desperado]

I need to know French?? grrr

google is my friend

 

[Kon Tiki]

Spoiler

Eh...sort of. Yes, you visualize them in their current positions. But this is a very color-oriented puzzle. How much do you know about color channels?

[Bad joke] I only get BET[/bad joke]

 

[iapetus]

Society: Um. It was delivered on

Spoiler

Saturday

, surely?

And I just got 1.08, and now I want to hunt down the person that set it and make them suffer.

 

[Kon Tiki]

opps.

 

[pestul]

Absolutely no clue on 1.03. Not even close. And I know nothing about

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color chanels

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