• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Tomorrow George RR Martin goes to prison

Liamario

Banned
I have to agree. He's done. He's probably trying to get the motivation, but he's completely lost interest. You can't really argue with it. There's no point pumping out books that you didnt give 100% to.
 

Coolwhhip

Neophyte
The godawful last season and all the fans being turned off probably didn't help.

Honestly writing books after the tv show of those books is done didn't make any sense anyway.
 

MudoSkills

Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
I'm still interested in reading the books to see the story done right. It's just that either me or GRRM is gonna die before the next one gets published.

It isn't even the final book.
 

DKehoe

Gold Member
Because anyone that will buy the books will have seen the show. You can't just forget it and happily accept a different ending, if there even is one.

It appears like there's still plenty of interest in the book coming out. There's seemingly articles published every day providing "updates" on the release date. Also, although I think the broad strokes of the ending will be similar I think how it plays out and is built up to will be different. There's plenty of elements in the books that aren't in the show like Aegon VI being in it, Willas and Garlan Tyrell will apparently have important roles to play and Euron actually being a significant character. Dany's Mad Queen turn has also been built up a lot better in the books than it was in the show (which is to say it's actually been built up). Also this is the biggest work of Martin's career, you'd think on some level he's thinking of his audience years from now who won't have seen the show not just the people around now.

Personally I'm not that bothered when the book comes out. Soon would be great but however long it takes is however long it takes. It's not like there's a shortage of books for me to read.
 

-Minsc-

Member
Just like Rothfuss and book 3.



Every time with these fantasy nerds.


Still waiting on that one. It was the first fiction novel series I bought into since graduating high school in 2000. Would at least like to finish the story. I suppose there's a lesson here. Only buy completed series.
 

teezzy

Banned
Still waiting on that one. It was the first fiction novel series I bought into since graduating high school in 2000. Would at least like to finish the story. I suppose there's a lesson here. Only buy completed series.


Likewise. Unfortunately:

 

Kadayi

Banned
Creative work is draining. Put in rabid fans and constant tours and conventions and it's gonna wear you down. It's been 10 years.

If he spent less time getting his ego stroked at conventions and quit getting distracted by sidecar projects he wouldn't ended up where he did. Fat cunt had about an 8 year lead on the show (including pre-production) to pull his finger out and get the books written, but no instead he'd rather fuck about doing anything but and then after his yearly Christmas Mea Culpa to book readers as to why things weren't progressing faster, would then use their forgiveness as a license to ill for another year. Rinse repeat. If he's put the work in, the Show runners would have had some actual material to work off of in the last few seasons versus his outline.
 

GAMETA

Banned
The old man's a perfectionist, even the smallest uncertainties can lead to procrastination and he's probably in constant stress any time the thinks to write the book...

I think it's the same with Kentaro Miura.

I don't blame him. He's old and finally rich, should enjoy the time he has left instead of feeling the stress of creative uncertainty.

Procrastination guilt is a bitch, in his situation it's better I'd say "fuck it" too.
 
Last edited:

crumbs

Member
I'm a fan of the books (didn't care for the TV series), but I have a hard time caring anymore. The last interesting book was "Storm of Swords" and that released 20 years ago this November. It's hard to stay engaged that long.
 
D

Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member

Mossybrew

Banned
I'm a fan of the books (didn't care for the TV series), but I have a hard time caring anymore. The last interesting book was "Storm of Swords" and that released 20 years ago this November. It's hard to stay engaged that long.

Yup. I remember the latest book just being a slog to get through. I loved these books back in the day, but like you say, that was a long time ago and I've moved on. The show wrapped it up for me for better or worse and I have zero interest in further books in this series.

The Wise Man's Fear was just a cringey disaster.

Hah, I don't think a second book in a series has ever completely killed my interest as much as this turd did.
 
Last edited:

Kadayi

Banned
I'm a fan of the books (didn't care for the TV series), but I have a hard time caring anymore. The last interesting book was "Storm of Swords" and that released 20 years ago this November. It's hard to stay engaged that long.

Add me to the club that didn't care for Books 4 & 5. I'm not entirely sure what prompted Martin to go OTT on character viewpoints but it really sucked the life out of any momentum as far as I could tell. Honesty don't expect to ever see it concluded.
 

crumbs

Member
Add me to the club that didn't care for Books 4 & 5. I'm not entirely sure what prompted Martin to go OTT on character viewpoints but it really sucked the life out of any momentum as far as I could tell. Honesty don't expect to ever see it concluded.

Agreed, a lot of the new "POV" characters and locations aren't interesting, plus the plot just kinda stalled out. All the new Essos stuff felt unnecessary since there's still so many unfinished story lines from Westeros. I also don't see this series being finished by GRRM, but I would probably still read the final books, although I wouldn't rush to buy them like I would have in the past.
 

Pegasus Actual

Gold Member
"But I tell you this — if I don’t have THE WINDS OF WINTER in hand when I arrive in New Zealand for worldcon, you have here my formal written permission to imprison me in a small cabin on White Island, overlooking that lake of sulfuric acid, until I’m done. Just so long as the acrid fumes do not screw up my old DOS word processor, I’ll be fine. "

Did he show up in New Zealand for WorldCon? I'm gonna press X to doubt that one... looks like GRRM has foiled you chumps again.
 

Jon Neu

Banned
Do you guys still care? I sure don't. Season 8 completely destroyed my interest in anything GoT related.

I absolutely care, the books are phenomenal and I want to see the stories of so many characters being done justice.

The difference between the last seasons of the show and the books are perfectly encapsulated in the Show Euron vs The Forsaken chapter. It couldn’t literally be more different.
 

RedVIper

Banned
Because anyone that will buy the books will have seen the show. You can't just forget it and happily accept a different ending, if there even is one.

Have you read the books? At the point it's in, it's completely different from show Game of Thrones.
 

Fbh

Member
Honestly if he simply doesn't care anymore he should just say so.
Some sort of "sorry I've really tried but I can't find the motivation anymore and I'd rather not release the remaining books than release some half assed conclusion out of a sense of obligation" statement instead of this constantly "totally still working on it!!!" stuff



I'm increasingly of the mind that The Name of the Wind was a fluke. The Wise Man's Fear was just a cringey disaster.

These posts just reminded me of this series lol.
Yeah the second book was so bad I don't even know if I would bother with the third one (if it ever comes out) unless I see positive reviews/comments from people who also disliked the A Wise Man's Fear
 

Javthusiast

Banned
tenor.gif
 

-Minsc-

Member
These posts just reminded me of this series lol.
Yeah the second book was so bad I don't even know if I would bother with the third one (if it ever comes out) unless I see positive reviews/comments from people who also disliked the A Wise Man's Fear
A Wise Man's Fear was bad? I guess I'm just a pleb who doesn't know what's good or bad.
 

Ionian

Member
Add me to the club that didn't care for Books 4 & 5. I'm not entirely sure what prompted Martin to go OTT on character viewpoints but it really sucked the life out of any momentum as far as I could tell. Honesty don't expect to ever see it concluded.

Yeah they were a massive let down after 'A Storm of Swords', just pointless filler most of the time.
 

Fbh

Member
A Wise Man's Fear was bad? I guess I'm just a pleb who doesn't know what's good or bad.

I personally thought it was terrible, but there's definitely tons of people who love it.

The pacing was slow, I found it spends a lot of time on stuff that isn't particularly interesting or fun while not really addressing most of the big questions and story threads set up by the first book, and I have to agree with @Zefah in that it comes across like some teen power fantasy at times.

The whole part where the main character gets captured by what is basically a sex goddess, then manages to escape partially because of his amazing sex skills (he is like 16 too), and comes out from the whole encounter having learned legendary sex techniques which have turned him into the ultimate fucker (literally) ....is when it starts to feel like it was written by some 14 years old kid.
 
Last edited:

Tesseract

Banned
If he had any sort of passion and emotional investment in finishing his book, he would have done so already. Who the fuck takes 10 years to write a book?
it is what it is, hope he doesn't give any fucks about that stuff

they are his ventures and verses, nobody elses
 
Last edited:

Cutty Flam

Banned
How is that series? Are the books actually that good all-around?

It seems like focal point is violence in any way possible to gain power, right? I was told that there is some supernatural element to this series, and it sounded very intriguing, but the person who told me could not explain it properly enough. Which is odd for her, because she reads more than anyone I know. Must be a very subtle theme some wont even detect I imagine? This GOT series has me a little curious. Not the show though, only the books
 
Top Bottom