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[BuddyC]

Today I was discussing an upcoming album with someone, expressing my disappointment with what has been released thus far, when I was informed that I am "too picky to be a true fan."

After this, following classic Internet logic, they went on to insult several albums they knew I enjoyed to justify their claims. Normally I'd write this off, after all, they were obviously reinforcing their "superiority" in musical tastes, but that line about being a true fan, that really struck a chord with me.

Where does the line between fandom and worship begin to blur? Does being a "true fan" mean you have to automatically praise any excretement produced? What if I've enjoyed almost two decades of a band's work, only to be disappointed in their latest effort?

 

[demi]

Where does the line between fandom and worship begin to blur?

diablos

 

[AntoneM]

you let some jerk on the internet get to you, hahaha!

 

[Willco]

FUCK YOU NINE INCH NAILS RULES YOUR HAIRCUT LOOKS LIKE MY DOG'S BALLS GAYTRON.

 

[BuddyC]

you let some jerk on the internet get to you, hahaha!

This was in real life with someone that knows me quite well.

FUCK YOU NINE INCH NAILS RULES YOUR HAIRCUT LOOKS LIKE MY DOG'S BALLS GAYTRON.

Was it really that obvious? I avoided mentioning NIN out of fear the thread would degenerate into the standard music discussion.

 

[Alucard]

Which band are we talking about here?

EDIT: Nevermind. I was too lazy to read all the replies.

 

[AntoneM]

ah, your reference to internet logic through me off, you're smart, maybe too smart. Anyway I'm sure Fred Durst would call all 10 of his remaining worshipers his "true fans" so they can probably be interchanged.

 

[Lambtron]

Hey, don't get down on yourself, Trent will never make something as awesome as Pretty Hate Machine again. Tell those guys to go fuck themselves, and remind them that Ministry was always better than NIN anyway. (Not that it matters because Ministry hasn't put out a worthwhile record in like 15 years... but I just love rilin' those NIN guys up)

BTW, if you can't admit a band has shitty songs, you're not a fan. There are 6 Ween songs I don't like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[tetsuoxb]

I love me some Nine Inch Nails... but if I want soft weak nine inch nails without instrumentals, I can go listen to Apopgytma Berzerk, which is a far superior band in that rock/industrial/dance hybrid space.

Love Never Dies
Mourn
Non-Stop Violence
Kathy's Song

Check those out and tell me that they arent superior to the stuff released from with teeth so far.

 

[bjork]

It's just a matter of taste, and there's no accounting for taste... you'll always agree with at least the minority, sometimes the majority.

Like for bjork, Vespertine gets the most critical praise, but I like it the least of her stuff.

For The Smiths, The Queen Is Dead is considered the best, but I like Louder than Bombs the best.

Music is like religion... it's almost always going to end in an argument if you take it too seriously.

:listens to Daytona USA music:

 

[Acrylamid]

Was it really that obvious? I avoided mentioning NIN out of fear the thread would degenerate into the standard music discussion.

Where does the line between fandom and worship begin to blur? Does being a "true fan" mean you have to automatically praise any excretement produced? What if I've enjoyed almost two decades of a band's work, only to be disappointed in their latest effort?

 

[FortNinety]

Music is like religion... it's almost always going to end in an argument if you take it too seriously.

:listens to Daytona USA music:

This bears repeating. I'm the type to argue about EVERYTHING. Excpet for music. I dare not insult someone's taste. If you like Britney's music, more power to you.

:goes back to listening to Daytona USA 2001 music:

 

[Manics]

Just like what you like and fuck the rest. Who cares what people think?

 

[BuddyC]

Wow, that wasn't even conscious on my part. Yikes.

Just like what you like and fuck the rest. Who cares what people think?

Agreed. But you see, I'm just trying to understand the concept of a "true" fan. It's been bugging me all day, it just doesn't sit right. What seperates a true fan from a fan, what's the criteria here? Is it nothing more than a sleight of hand fanboys use to discredit an opposing opinion?

I don't want to turn this into a debate about music, I'm just interested in the semantics of it all.

 

[Spike Spiegel]

"A true fan" offers constructive criticism and ideas for positive change, maybe?

 

[BuddyC]

I don't know, maybe? But if you offer too much constructive criticism, doesn't that make you picky?

 

[Kenobi]

I think the best solution is to wait until the entire album is out, buy it, and then decide...or ask that friend to borrow it or something. I know i was the same with Broken, but it grew on me, and in some ways, the Fragile was the same, and now the Fragile is the fucking best thing NIN ever did....in my opinion.

With teeth is promising, and at first I didn't like a few of the leaked tracks, but they are beginning to grow on me...just wait it out till May, dude.

 

[BuddyC]

If I wanted to discuss With Teeth, I'd have made a thread about With Teeth. But you see, this thread is about defining the concept of a true fan, so that's what I wrote about.

 

[Guzim]

Let me guess, you guys were discussing Weezer.

EDIT: But yes, you can be a true fan and dislike some of the work.

 

[daegan]

But yes, you can be a true fan and dislike some of the work.

To me, it shows that you're a fan who can be more honest and realistic and accept some bad songs out of bands you love. Most bands have a few shitty songs. Some have entire unlistenable albums yet manage to come back with a later one and make themselves relevant again.

 

[Dilbert]

I think they meant to say, "too picky to be a true fanboy." A "fan" enjoys the work because it's good. A "fanboy" believes that a band/company cannot do wrong.

 

[whytemyke]

This reminds me of that Red vs. Blue clip:

"I HATE YOU! I HATE THE BAND YOU LIKE!"

 

[spliced]

Most of the time I hear people say true fan it's just a way for them to try to create more importance behind their opinions. I figure anyone that genuinely likes a band is is a true fan. It's all based on opinion though anyway so who cares, one persons true fan is anothers bandwagon jumper.