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Toronto Mayor Supports Renaming Etobicoke Stadium After Racist Crackhead Rob Ford

jstripes

Banned
Why does he deserve a memorial?

Because there's a powerful (and ignorant) voting bloc that still worships him.

So "deserve" is really the wrong word here. What's going on is that Rob Ford's brother, Doug Ford, is running in the next election, and this is Tory trying to head him off at the pass.
 

bluenote

Neo Member
WTF is wrong with Tory?

He has to do it. He would get absolutely ripped (by ford supporters, which isn't insignificant) if he refused this. Also, he is trying to honour 2 other recently deceased councillors so that wouldn't look good if he left Ford out.

As much as I disliked Ford, he was (and the family still is) extremely popular in Etobicoke.
 

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
I have no idea why the Ford cult of personality exists. What did they ever do to gather a fanbase?
Had free BBQs and would hand out $20 bills.

Real answer, he always made time for his constituents as a councilor although the above is true also.
 

jstripes

Banned
Isn't this the guy who was recorded tweeking hard on meth?
Crack.

Had free BBQs and would hand out $20 bills.

Real answer, he always made time for his constituents as a councilor although the above is true also.
I went to Ford Fest when he held it in Scarborough, purely out of curiousity, and it was a zoo. Seriously, it was Angry White Person Central. Lots of threats and yelling, from the volunteers and attendees, when there was a delay with the free burgers. When the LGBT protestors showed up the crowd got scary angry and mobbed them.

Also, yes, he did make time for constituents's minor issues, but that's a city councilor's job, not really a mayor's. You can't have the guy in charge of a city of millions spending all his (non-drinking) time going to doors about disputes over trees.
 

bluenote

Neo Member
I have no idea why the Ford cult of personality exists. What did they ever do to gather a fanbase?

He appealed to the working class. He wasn't highly educated, wasn't well spoken, was against what he perceived to be the "elitists" (though he always ignored the fact that his dad gave him and his brothers the family business and they were fairly well off, compared to other working class families). He would usually return constituent's calls and would often show up at the doorstep's of those people.

A lot of people liked him, because he wasn't like most politicians. He seemed more relateable, someone who you could have a beer with.

I really couldn't stand him but he certainly had his fans.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I would have gone with "crackhead" Rob Ford. I'm sure he was racist but that's not necessarily disqualifying for political honor these days....


Edit: that satisfying title change ;)
 
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CazTGG

Member
I see what one of you mods did...and I don't disapprove.

Does Tory mean the same thing in Canada as it does over here? His name's giving me a good chuckle.

Yup, though we usually use the term "Con" when talking about the right-wing federal party. Funny enough, Tory once ran for a provincial MP seat as a PC ("Progressive" Conservative) in what is now the riding held by Premier Kathleen Wynne.
 

Dr.Guru of Peru

played the long game
what's interesting is that while Donald Trump was elected with the white vote, rob ford actually carried the minority vote when he was elected. His base was the poor low information blue collar population of Toronto, and that transcended race. Most of his supporters still don't believe any of the shit he did. They only remember him as that guy who looked like Michelin man and stuck it to the downtown elite.
 

CazTGG

Member
Most of his supporters still didn't believe any of the shit he did. They only remember him as that guy who looked like Michelin man and stuck it to the downtown elite.

Don't even get me started on how ignorant some of his followers can be. I had one of them say straight to my face that Rob and Doug were looking out for the little guy when they repeatedly snubbed minority communities like the LGBTQ2S+ while racking up even more debt for Torontonians to pay off...and then get defensive when they were called out on their lack of facts.
 

FrankCanada97

Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
what's interesting is that while Donald Trump was elected with the white vote, rob ford actually carried the minority vote when he was elected. His base was the poor low information blue collar population of Toronto, and that transcended race. Most of his supporters still don't believe any of the shit he did. They only remember him as that guy who looked like Michelin man and stuck it to the downtown elite.

And yet when an actual progressive minority candidate ran in the last election, she got snubbed into a distant 3rd place.
 
Tory pandering to the Ford nation base in an election year. Miller should have run for a third term. Fucking Rob Ford, set the city back decades.

Miller running for a third term would've done what exactly? He was inefficient with money (especially having no problems with hiking taxes and complaining about lack of funds for social services, only to cut on public services. Which was poorly thought out to say the least), TTC was riddled with issues under his watch, largely responsible for the revitalization of Regent Park and soon Lawrence Heights (while also failing to see the root of the problem within these neighbourhoods), to name a few.

Rob Ford was an idiot, but Miller wasn't really good at his job either.
 

EvilMario

Will QA for food.
Miller running for a third term would've done what exactly? He was inefficient with money (especially having no problems with hiking taxes and complaining about lack of funds for social services, only to cut on public services. Which was poorly thought out to say the least), TTC was riddled with issues under his watch, largely responsible for the revitalization of Regent Park and soon Lawrence Heights (while also failing to see the root of the problem within these neighbourhoods), to name a few.

Rob Ford was an idiot, but Miller wasn't really good at his job either.

We'd have multiple LRT lines from Transit City inside of Eglinton LRT still being half a decade out. And the money sink hole in Scarborough would have never have existed. SUBWAYS SUBWAYS SUBWAYS.

People think Ford was good with money because he cut things like catering and council expenses, but yet we'll lose billions over time and resources lost on his other ventures.
 

Derwind

Member
For a second there, I thought they were changing the entire park name. Was about to lose my shit. I live literally a 5 minute walking distance from it and constantly use that park.

Still don't agree with it, but its a slightly less shock to the system.
 

Zebetite

Banned
That's true, but she has also talked about how she regrets making it such a car-focused place with huge wide roads everywhere. Mississauga is really, really non-walkable, even for a suburb.

It's actually kind of crazy crossing the border into Oakville and seeing how much more pleasant it is at the human scale.

large swathes of mississauga and brampton are going to have to be ripped out of the ground and completely rebuilt to not be so hyper-reliant on cars if they have any hope of ever getting out of the bedroom community game
 
We'd have multiple LRT lines from Transit City inside of Eglinton LRT still being half a decade out. And the money sink hole in Scarborough would have never have existed. SUBWAYS SUBWAYS SUBWAYS.

People think Ford was good with money because he cut things like catering and council expenses, but yet we'll lose billions over time and resources lost on his other ventures.

And those LRT lines were going to be significantly downsized from the original Transit City plan in 2010. Primarily due to McGuinty asking to delay some projects as a way save $4bil iirc. Not to mention, you would have been looking to at least the year 2022 until the completion of the reduced lanes as well as increasing costs that come with mismanaging/underestimating budgets. Instead of compromising on his initial vision and prioritizing the parts of Toronto that need LRTs, Miller instead complains to McGuinty knowing full well that he knew the cost was going to exceed the initial budget in the first place, AND it was public record too.

Given Miller's problem with budgeting and efficiency, that's not someone who's worthy of a third term.
 
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