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Troops say services, support lacking

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Triumph

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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0215-07.htm

BUT BUT WE BOUGHT OUR RIBBONS WHY CAN'T YOU JUST GO KILL ARABS FOR FREEDOM AND SHUT UP WHILE WE DRIVE OUR SUVs?

Yeah.

War may be hell, three veterans of the Iraq conflict told college students Monday, but coming home is no picnic either.

The three painted a bleak picture of a soldier's life in the war zone at a forum at Nassau Community College, saying troops still lack body armor, fly in decades-old helicopters and don't have enough Arabic-speaking interpreters to do their jobs effectively.

But they saved their harshest words for the conditions that soldiers face after returning home. They cited a lack of services and compassion -- both in Washington and among the general public -- for high rates of alcoholism, homelessness and untreated post-traumatic stress disorder among the recently returned troops.

"A lot of people praise the dead for being heroes ... but people forget about the living who returned," said Nicole Goodwin, a former army private. "You always see those bumper stickers that say 'Support the Troops.' I'm a living troop. I'm tired of seeing those words ... where's the action?"

I can't wait till more vets start speaking up. There's a big action planned at Fort Bragg on March 19th(anniversary of "Shock and Awe") and the Iraqi Veterans Against the War will be there. I may be making the trip from the ATL.
 
Well some of those things are true. I think that probably the most glaring problem is language barrier.

As far as equipment well that cost money. And you can't wage war and cut taxes. Someone has to pay fot that equipment we will see how much America wants to support the troops when our taxes start shooting through the roof when we have to make start paying for massive upgrades for new equipment. This desert environment is brutal on all combat systems.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Tommie Hu$tle said:
Well some of those things are true. I think that probably the most glaring problem is language barrier.

As far as equipment well that cost money. And you can't wage war and cut taxes. Someone has to pay fot that equipment we will see how much America wants to support the troops when our taxes start shooting through the roof when we have to make start paying for massive upgrades for new equipment. This desert environment is brutal on all combat systems.

So where the hell is the money that Bush keeps getting from Congress going... and do we really want to talk about who really got the benefit from that supposed tax cut?
 
Tommie Hu$tle said:
Well some of those things are true. I think that probably the most glaring problem is language barrier.
I thought you spent most of your time in the base or wherever so you don't have much contact with the Iraqis.
 
Hammy said:
I thought you spent most of your time in the base or wherever so you don't have much contact with the Iraqis.


Yeah, I do but troops don't. I don't have a need to learn Arabic because if I'm ever in a situation where I need to speak it I'm probably 6 hours from death. But, the troops who are out in the country would benefit from it. And not just basics but, learing how to speak and understand it.
 

Zaptruder

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This is the problem with a democracy. Sending out troops causes 2 unhappy faces in city squares.... one for the people, and one for the troops.
 

Azih

Member
Zaptruder said:
This is the problem with a democracy. Sending out troops causes 2 unhappy faces in city squares.... one for the people, and one for the troops.
Usually bringing the troops back gets rid of the unhappy faces.

However if you build the FOX NEWS wonder you get one extremely happy face for every unhappy face in a war situation in a democracy.
 
Azih said:
Usually bringing the troops back gets rid of the unhappy faces.

However if you build the FOX NEWS wonder you get one extremely happy face for every unhappy face in a war situation in a democracy.

Too bad Civ2 is no longer the most recent release. Then whenever a peace offer is given, a democracy must accept.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Zaptruder said:
This is the problem with a democracy. Sending out troops causes 2 unhappy faces in city squares.... one for the people, and one for the troops.

:lol Nice one. I'm facing this problem right now in fact. Despotism, here I come ;)
 
DarthWoo said:
Ehh, I thought there was also a Republic gov't too.
Yeah there is, but the democracy in Civ comparison sounds better. On the other hand, Firaxis has added Fascism and Imperialism government choices in the latest expansion.
 
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