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[Random Painted HIghway]

It's what lobbyists do every single day but not nearly as bad considering lobbys routinely write laws.

Lobbyists can cause a lot of harm, but I'd rather those guys draft legislation than leave it to the reps and senators and their pitifully paid staff researchers who have no idea of the industry they're mucking around in. At least with lobbyists, you know where they stand and what their aims are and can mitigite things (if you read before the vote) clueless rep from bfe, not so much.

 

[Abounder]

Trump more or less brags about this. Don't you just love the American system.

 

[shintoki]

You mean lobbying...

 

[guek]

Lobbyists can cause a lot of harm, but I'd rather those guys draft legislation than leave it to the reps and senators and their pitifully paid staff researchers who have no idea of the industry they're mucking around in. At least with lobbyists, you know where they stand and what their aims are and can mitigite things (if you read before the vote) clueless rep from bfe, not so much.

I'd rather representatives and senators did their goddamn jobs beholden to their constituents and the nation instead of lobbyists. There are few things in American politics more disgusting than lobbyists writing laws.

 

[CrunchyFrog]

and the hypocritical orange hernia has the gusto to scream pay to play

This is a marvelous sentence, I think I'll frame it

 

[Random Painted HIghway]

I'd rather representatives and senators did their goddamn jobs beholden to their constituents and the nation instead of lobbyists. There are few things in American politics more disgusting than lobbyists writing laws.

Ok, I like your enthusiasm for the lege. However, most sens and reps aren't in office due to their mental acuity, I have little confidence in the their ability to craft and pass complex litigation without the input and influence of interested parties. I want Google at the table when tech bills are being considered, for example.

 

[Oersted]

Lobbyists can cause a lot of harm, but I'd rather those guys draft legislation than leave it to the reps and senators and their pitifully paid staff researchers who have no idea of the industry they're mucking around in. At least with lobbyists, you know where they stand and what their aims are and can mitigite things (if you read before the vote) clueless rep from bfe, not so much.

Ok, I like your enthusiasm for the lege. However, most sens and reps aren't in office due to their mental acuity, I have little confidence in the their ability to craft and pass complex litigation without the input and influence of interested parties. I want Google at the table when tech bills are being considered, for example.

We get it, you have confidence in cooperations and not elected officials. Which ironically makes you believe in Trump and not Obama.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Lol come get me when Don does something Hillary hasn't already been doing for years (she does her business within the government is the only difference).

 

[The Jackdog]

Lol come get me when Don does something Hillary hasn't already been doing for years (she does her business within the government is the only difference).

hey i was informed to get you when don does something hiliary hasnt been already been doing for years?

How bout 'paying income taxes'

 

[Zyae]

Lol come get me when Don does something Hillary hasn't already been doing for years (she does her business within the government is the only difference).

dodging taxes?

 

[gcubed]

hey i was informed to get you when don does something hiliary hasnt been already been doing for years?

How bout 'paying income taxes'

I don't think "brains" is a smart suit of the poster so i assume his bothsides-itis will either allow him to make an excuse or he won't post again

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Lol come get me when Don does something Hillary hasn't already been doing for years (she does her business within the government is the only difference).

Objectify and demean women, discriminate against minorities, pick a VP that actively seeks to endanger LGBTQ rights, game the tax code to avoid paying taxes, fuck over working families and small businesses for personal gain, vocally support the foreign state sponsored hacking of US government bodies, dogwhistle a US president for years, generally be a piece of racist shit...I could do this all day.

But you're just another ignorant drive by doofus so I expect we won't be hearing from you again in this thread

 

[The Jackdog]

I don't think "brains" is a smart suit of the poster so i assume his bothsides-itis will either allow him to make an excuse or he won't post again

a drive by post by a trump supporter with nothing but rhetoric and HILIARY IS A CRIMINAL to yell before bailing back to the bubble of "people agree with me here!" over at the_donald or likewis???

i dont believe you.

 

[#sorrynotsorry]

he admitted that he paid people off who were investigating him? that's news to me

He didn't specify, so you should have assumed it could and would be anything, including this. So it should come as no surprise at all.

This is what everyone does. It's not news.

 

[SamVimes]

To be fair thoughout the primaries Hillary-gaf kept saying donations don't matter and can't possibly sway opinions.

Spoiler

before anyone jumps at me, yes she is by far the best option, this is just a small dig

 

[guek]

Ok, I like your enthusiasm for the lege. However, most sens and reps aren't in office due to their mental acuity, I have little confidence in the their ability to craft and pass complex litigation without the input and influence of interested parties. I want Google at the table when tech bills are being considered, for example.

I agree, they should advise in crafting legislation to a certain degree but word for word transposing from what companies are requesting into legal documents is a bunch of bullshit. They should not be literally writing these laws word for word to suit their agendas.

 

[E92 M3]

It's what lobbyists do every single day but not nearly as bad considering lobbys routinely write laws.

Yes, I hate lobbying. It's horrible.

 

[Random Painted HIghway]

We get it, you have confidence in cooperations and not elected officials. Which ironically makes you believe in Trump and not Obama.

Cooperations? I'm not a socialist hippie. though I did I vote for Obama in both of his presidential nominations and checking my bank account see that I have indeed donated to the Clinton campaign, hmm, maybe I am? I can only assume you have me confused with some other poster. What I do have is an inside view into the legislative process my own career wherein I review legislation directly affecting my line of work, criminal and administrative laws, and am able to provide reviews of state legislation as well as send requests up the chain, and my wife is a professor specializing in legislative matters. So I do have what I consider is a pretty good handle of the capabilities of both state and federal legislators regarding bills.

I agree, they should advise in crafting legislation to a certain degree but word for word transposing from what companies are requesting into legal documents is a bunch of bullshit. They should not be literally writing these laws word for word to suit their agendas.

It is a bit distasteful, agree.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Didn't he talk about this himself at one of the GOP primary debates?

 

[Oersted]

It is a bit distasteful, agree.

A bit is pushing it.

 

[Lord Frieza]

Lol come get me when Don does something Hillary hasn't already been doing for years (she does her business within the government is the only difference).

BOTH SIDES ARE THE SAME, AM I RIGHT???!??!?!?