The Technomancer
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Pork projects are quite often considered signs of "being bought", or at the very least that something less than wholesome is going on
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Trump v. Bernie Debate
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Pork projects are quite often considered signs of "being bought", or at the very least that something less than wholesome is going on
commanderpepper
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This is the second presidential that I could vote in and its so damn weird. I wonder how close the debate will be to this http://trumpvsbernie.com/
Bam Bam Baklava
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Who knew that all those congressman who lobbied for 500 million dollar bridges to nowhere in their districts were just good guys after all. They did create construction jobs.
But did they vote against the Iraq war because we all know that's the only important thing really.
Cindi Mayweather
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Bernie supporters are now more interested Bernie somehow winning than spreading his message. I'm pretty sure most Bernie supporters were just along on the bandwagon.
This is the final push now up until the middle of June for Bernie to win with an admittedly small chance but a chance nevertheless to win, and he still clearly wants to win the nomination, why shouldn't that be the focus now that it's the end?
To Far Away Times
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It actually is much more important the bridge to nowhere, and let's face it, Hillary is hardly an ethical role model to begin with.
I do think that's a pretty big issue for voters.
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Because there is no realistic chance. Bernie supporters are like the guy on the corner shouting and
carrying a sign that says "The end is near!" Is it possible the world will end tomorrow? Sure. Is it even remotely likely? No. And people rightly ignore and roll their eyes at him.
Aaron Strife
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It was much more so in 08 but clearly people are willing to look past it now especially since Clinton has admitted it was a mistake
Who gives a crap about the fact that the guy might have killed a small family, drowned kitten in his backyard, built a statue to his glory using taxpayer funds?
The real test of character is whether or not they voted for the Iraq War, if he didn't he might be Pablo Escobar himself he would still be someone we all should vote for.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Sounds accurate. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Bernie dude what are you doing...
In 08? Yeah.
In 12? Sure, a bit.
This year? Hasn't seemed to matter at all, especially in the primary season.
teruterubozu
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This debate thing is one big troll from both sides and we're bored out of our minds to entertain it.
BlastProcessing
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Superdelegates are generally high ranking members of the party. The endorsement part of their support has a much greater effect on voters than a number that cable news runs. Should Democrats be allowed to endorse the candidate of their choice?
Endorsements are a huge part of how the chain of credibility works in American politics. John Lewis's endorsement means far more than one digit on a CNN infographic.
Endorsements are earned throughout the career of the politician. You don't wipe the slate clean at the beginning of an election. This isn't American Idol. Past performance matters.
Clinton and Sanders have both spent decades in politics, both are career politicians. The fact that Clinton has won more of her peers' trust and support is something that can not and should not be ignored.
Giant game of Chicken w Trump.
Knuckle Sandwich
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Just trying to grab all the attention he can before it's all over on Tuesday. Don't think he really cares what this would be.
I hope this is true. Sanders should eviscerate him. I hope noone complains about cruel and unusual punishment being broadcasted live.
IrishNinja
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In case you have no idea how this is going to go...
Bernie is an egotistical idiot at this point. Shit on the D nominee to make it easier for Trump to win. Trying to court that "Down with the establishment!" audience.
these posts go very well together
exactly this, which the bernie or bust crowd seems down for
given how his campaign was run, this feels oddly par for the course
NullPointer
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Trying to bait Trump into a serious mistake. Bernie with full carte blanche to lay into Trump, knowing that Trump can't hit him back during the GE?
Uhhh I don't think this is going to hurt Trump.
Trump got ROCKED by Cruz and Rubio, and it didn't matter. All this is going to do is divide the party and give the appearance of delegitimizing the DNC nom.
Why would he need to hit back at him during the GE? He won't be running against him.
excelsiorlef
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Pathetic
Knuckle Sandwich
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Eh... Have you seen Bernie debate? Dude gets flustered. He would get steamrolled by Trump. It would just be a Hillary sucks circle jerk though.
BobbyRobby
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Iraq War killed tons of small families, maybe some kittens too.
Why are you trying to downplay that?
Androidsleeps
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BotoxAgent
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Trump vs Bernie, battle of who is more thin-skinned
Sirpopopop
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Because it's not going to be a real debate.
It's going to be Trump & Sanders both tearing down Hillary Clinton.
I would love to be proven wrong.
teruterubozu
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First, it'll never happen, and he knows it. Two, I'd be surprised if it was a lovefest between the two.
BlastProcessing
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They both have something to gain here. Trump needs to cement himself amongst independents as the straight talking adult in the room (a tall fucking order, but still), by picking a fight with someone who he can paint as a Socialist strawman he can win a lot of points. Sanders is the perfect foil for him right now.
Thus far Trump has always had someone to fight against, someone to push against. His schtick only works when he can constantly take swings at people. This downtime before the conventions is death to his image. Much better for him to get into a fight with Sanders, even if Sanders lands a few punches he can be dismissed as a "loser" after he drops out.
I always figured the issue with that was that Rubio got wrecked by Christie and Cruz walked into the NY values question before they turned on Trump, so their attacks were discounted.
I think Sanders would do really well in a debate with a Trump-style candidate - it is just rhetoric vs rhetoric - and Sanders does do sweeping rhetoric well.
Exactly. I guess I'm seeing this as a live debate version of Warren going in on Trump via Twitter.
Sirpopopop
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And when that leads to a Trump presidency with his finger on the trigger, that will also be glorious too!
Ziltoidia 9
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Mark Cuban should allow them to have the debate at the AAC.
Yea but if Trump goes on the attack for even a second he's going to be like a deer in the headlights and if Trump smells blood I'm not so sure he could resist going further in.
I'm not downplaying that, my point is that this vote is the alpha and omega of every reason to vote for/against someone.
We had people who were against the Iraq that were downright shitheels the world over, that doesn't make them good people because they were against it.
I know that's his plan, I just can't see it playing out that way. Trump would just keep throwing out so much shit that Bernie wouldn't be able to respond to it. Really hope this doesn't actually happen
Hillary has nothing to worry about, Sanders is irrelevant in the race now.
titiklabingapat
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The most lol worthy thing about all this is the Sanders supporters thinking Bernie will steamroll Trump. Have you guys even watched the Democratic debate? The dude gets flustered more than someone who has agoraphobia on thier of the stage.
Knuckle Sandwich
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Warren clowning Trump on twitter isn't adding fuel to the Sanders and his supporters vs. Hilllary and the democratic party fire.
Boombloxer
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You mentioned you're Canadian, so I wouldn't expect you to know this, but Obama in 08 couldn't take Cali from Clinton. She's winning.
Probably just a giant nothingburger I'm sure...
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