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Twelve-year old boy tried to blow up bomb at German Christmas market
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ISIS has kids freaking execute people, this is nothing new.
UnluckyKate
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so easy to be influence at that age
the_batman
Banned
seriously? not only does ISIS and other terrorist groups like Al Qaeda use kids as suicide bombers, they use them as human shields. you live under a rock or something.
it's not that hard to manipulate someone, regardless of age, when you tell them, "Do this or we'll kill you and your family"
but yeah, that's just one method. there's also the brainwashing that seems to have happened with this story.
Jesus
Grateful it didn't turn into a tragedy.
The fact that a 12 year old was the one who almost did it is a tragedy in and of itself.
chaobreaker
Member
Man, how far gone do you have to be to get convinced to kill people at that age? Radicalization is so fucked up. There's has to be something we can do about it.
And how far gone do you have to be to think you're one of the good guys when your organisation is responsible for things like this? The whole "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" thing is really hard to apply to a group that recruits kids as suicide bombers.
MarkMclovin
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There are videos out there of kids cutting the heads off of people. A 12yo with a bomb is fuck all.
ClosingADoor
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Terrorist at 12 years old... Time to take a good look what the parents are up too also then.
They think they're doing the kids a favor, cleansing him of sin, sending him to heaven, etc.
soxinthebox
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Nothing to worry about then
So they welcome him and his family into their country and he turns around doing shit for ISIS..sicking cunts using children like that.
Sad thing is ordinary Muslims will pay the price as this is branded as another threat from Islam in the west and you see more and more "Trump's" pop up Worldwide and pass new laws.
Sad thing is ordinary Muslims will pay the price as this is branded as another threat from Islam in the west and you see more and more "Trump's" pop up Worldwide and pass new laws.
MonorailCat
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If he is really 12 years old. Being under 14 in Germany basically grants you "immunity" to normal criminal charges. So a good portion of refugees lie about their age.
Being under 18 is beneficial too.
For example, the refugee that raped a women recently claims to be 17.
Problem is, he claimed to be 17 in Greece too ... three years ago.
Must be immortal.
Being under 18 is beneficial too.
For example, the refugee that raped a women recently claims to be 17.
Problem is, he claimed to be 17 in Greece too ... three years ago.
Must be immortal.
Airola
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Yeah, I saw a glimpse of a video where adult men were holding another person on ground so that a kid could practice beheading on that person. The kid looked to be very fine with it, maybe even looking to be excited to learn to do the thing right. The men held the poor victim's arms and legs and kept his head back so that the throat would be easier to cut and gave directions to the kid.
I had to turn it off after I saw it really was a real deal and the knife went through the man's throat. The kid was max 12 years old. I truly regret my morbid curiosity.
Yeah, I try to look at terrible things from that angle very often, because I think it's important to try to understand even the most terrible people's motivations. But this stuff makes it impossible for me.
He was also born on January 1st - what a coincidence lol
Go to school with them.
It really shouldn't be surprising to you. This has been part of their MO since the beginning. Don't try and looking for any kind of rationality or human decency.
Yeah but there's a high chance they didn't even know about it. Apparently it's pretty common that parents don't notice that their kids are getting radicalized so there are seminars teaching them what to look out for.
Miles Quaritch
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So he's German, weird the article writer felt the need to add the parents place of birth.
Kill Your Masters
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I'd say not that far gone as an adult?
Kids are easy to manipulate. Child soldiers aren't a novelty if you look at third world countries.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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The kid is german his parents might not even have been refugees. Media really gotta stop referring to people's heritage/origin instead of citizenship
Ragnar Blackmane
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Germany continues to be extremely lucky when it comes to domestic terrorism.
Thank god we only ever seem to have amateur lone wolves rather than the ISIS syrian war veterans returnees and actual professionals that did the Paris attacks a year ago (or even French/Belgian lone wolves that are far more dangerously creative and sucessful).
Thank god we only ever seem to have amateur lone wolves rather than the ISIS syrian war veterans returnees and actual professionals that did the Paris attacks a year ago (or even French/Belgian lone wolves that are far more dangerously creative and sucessful).
NiiloPielinen
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You're trying to apply thought process of normal human to understand the mindset of persons motivated by fanatical ideology.
They are fanatics, they already have the Truth (tm) and truly believe they are enabling God's will on earth by doing things like these.
Hypnotoad
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I guess it all comes down to his family having been granted German citizenship. No additional information required. Best to leave out his religious affiliation, too.
Salty Rice
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This is sadly nothing new.
MarkMclovin
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It's awful I know, but worrying didn't stop that bomb from going off. Getting on with your life, treating others as you expect to be treated, and not giving any time to these fucks is the best weapon against them.
I'm just surprised that people are surprised of an ISIS kid trying to set off a bomb, was as young as 12.
White people see him and see a muslim boy they don't see him as a radical german.
Pretty clear why the media pointed out his background history.
Anyway you cut it ordinary Muslims will take shit for this.
He doesn't necessarily have to have German citizenship just because he's born there.
Good thing no one was hurt.
I hope something can still be done for the kid. This will obviously have huge consequences for the rest of his life but I just hope people can get through to him and try to bring him back from what is essentially brainwashing.
12 years old man... Too young for this shit. It makes me incredible sad.
I hope something can still be done for the kid. This will obviously have huge consequences for the rest of his life but I just hope people can get through to him and try to bring him back from what is essentially brainwashing.
12 years old man... Too young for this shit. It makes me incredible sad.
ClosingADoor
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Pretty normal. If his parents are Iraqi, maybe he has both passports.
Count Dookkake
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This is very sad. Just awful.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Hope he gets grounded
Familienoberhauptvogel
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SolidusDave
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Can he still be put forever under constant surveillance/house arrest by a legal guardian?
He cannot get prosecuted as he's younger than 14.
I think if the bomb had worked I would prefer it being a suicide attack so that there can be some sort of justice at least...
Epic fail by the parents, too. Both regarding the radicalisation and not being aware of a fucking bomb being build by their little shit.
He cannot get prosecuted as he's younger than 14.
I think if the bomb had worked I would prefer it being a suicide attack so that there can be some sort of justice at least...
Epic fail by the parents, too. Both regarding the radicalisation and not being aware of a fucking bomb being build by their little shit.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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That's abhorrent, the kid needs help not be put down. If the kid died it'd have been even more of a tragedy.
SolidusDave
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I didn't suggest to put him down. Just if the scenario had played out he might have killed people and would have walked away without any legal consequences.
I know it's fucked up but what I was saying was that in that case I would have preferred him being in the blast, whatever the outcome.
We got lucky and now they can try to de-brainwash him so it's fine. Just a thought that came to my mind.
Still want authorities to throw the book at the parents though.
Bustanen
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Help meaning locked up in a mental hospital till he's sane again.
DrunkShogun
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Good to hear nothing happened and they caught him. At this stage, he needs to cooperate and hopefully we can learn how someone his age was radicalised.
wesleyshark
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What a terrifying thing. Glad that he failed, at least.
tornjaw
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While I was in Afghanistan, one of my interpreters told me the story of how/why he ran away from the Taliban. They (the Taliban) had been going village to village offering to take sons from families and offer them education in addition to food/shelter/clothing which was a struggle in some of these places so many families let go of their children despite the fact that they lost of a set of hands.
This next part is a little fuzzy because it's been a while but the gist is that he and another boy were told that they were going to go to, not a rally, but more like a public address from a local mayor and the other boy had been given a backpack to wear. The boys were told that once the speech was over, they were both to clap very hard and flowers would shoot out of the backpack and the mayor would give them each 100USD.
Only one boy had the backpack but they were both made to wear jackets because the boy with the pack had thin, metal strips lining his arms (copper?) and was told DO NOT clap or grasp hands before the speech was over or they wouldn't get the money. The other boy (my interpreter) was to hold one of his hands, kind of as a fail safe I guess, to prevent him from it.
Halfway through the speech, the boy with the backpack became uncomfortable and started complaining and asked one of the adults nearest them to help him remove his backpack because it was so heavy. So after struggling to to do, because it had been wire/sewn into the jacket they unzipped it to discover the bomb inside.
That was when he realized that there were no flowers. There was no money. They had sent the two of them to kill these people and die themselves and so, he ran away, leaving the other boy. He was 9.
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