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[Shtof]

Look at this list of most selling franchises.

Assassin's Creed. Just Dance. Tom Clancy's. Far Cry. Rayman. Prince of Persia. Watch Dogs.

Currently valued at the market capitalization of a ripe $1.36 Billion.

Seems like a no-brainer for any prospective buyer.

 

[Shaki12345]

I am sure they can reform their organisation.

If they do what they did with Shadows all will be good.

 

[GymWolf]

I am sure they can reform their organisation.

If they do what they did with Shadows all will be good.

Making another mid ass game that people already forgot about it?

Sound like a recipe for success alright.

 

[Mattyp]

Look at this list of most selling franchises.

Assassin's Creed. Just Dance. Tom Clancy's. Far Cry. Rayman. Prince of Persia. Watch Dogs.

Currently valued at the market capitalization of a ripe $1.36 Billion.

Seems like a no-brainer for any prospective buyer.

They spun off all those franchises into secondary shell companies to sell off separately when the time comes.

Ubisoft stock is worth nothing, forceful buyout stop a sell off is the only way but the family still owns majority don't they?

 

[Exede]

I.... just want a new Splinter Cell. But to get $1.36 Billion with gofundme is a hm kinda big challenge.
I mean its less of a challenge than Ubisoft getting a good publisher again, but it's still a challenge!

 

[Shtof]

They spun off all those franchises into secondary shell companies to sell off separately when the time comes.

Ubisoft stock is worth nothing, forceful buyout stop a sell off is the only way but the family still owns majority don't they?

Ah, makes sense.

That explains why nobody bought yet.

 

[Shaki12345]

Making another mid ass game that people already forgot about it?

Sound like a recipe for success alright.

The game sold well and was reviewed well.

 

[PeteBull]

U would have to do tons of lay offs including a lot of higher ups, they likely got pretty crazy salaries/laid off packages, company is so badly missmanaged with their woke culture virus(french and canada for the most part, 0 surprise there) u probably gonna lose few bilions of usd laying off those terrible parasites, then who knows how much cash in court, then even more for hiring proper talented devs(first thing would be to buy studio/ppl from exp 33 since they are located in paris, and make them one of the A-teams).

Just to give u an idea how bad french culture is- they are by law prohibited from doing paternity DNA tests on their own children in order to not expose mom-whores.

DNA paternity testing is conducted only at the discretion of a judge during judicial proceedings aimed at either establishing or contesting paternity, or for the purposes of obtaining or denying child support. Non-consensual private DNA paternity testing is illegal, even if carried out through laboratories in other countries. Violation of this law is punishable by up to one year in prison and a fine of €15,000. The French Council of State has described the purpose of this law as upholding the "French regime of filiation" and preserving "the peace of families

TLDR- Even French officials know and oppenly communicate that they got tons of whores in the country and men who are rising strangers children as their own w/o knowing...

 

[Baemono]

They spun off all those franchises into secondary shell companies to sell off separately when the time comes.

Ubisoft stock is worth nothing, forceful buyout stop a sell off is the only way but the family still owns majority don't they?

Didn't the article from yesterday stated it was rather a right to use the IPs than putting the IP rights into the new companies ? Or maybe I misunderstood

 

[Mattyp]

Ah, makes sense.

That explains why nobody bought yet.

Sorry they actually don't, 20% of voting rights but so it is possible.

The issue is the size of the work force, they need to loose 90% of their staff size for their output it's fucking ridiculous. Gut the IPs from Ubi and sack everyone starting over would be where the money is.

 

[GymWolf]

The game sold well and was reviewed well.

Didn't sold well enough if they are still in trouble and shadows was supposed to be the saviour.

Also, i clean my ass with modern reviews when trash like veilguard can score an 82, i played 20 hours of that thing before bailing out, it's the same 6-7\10 comfort food ac game as ever.

 

[Baemono]

Just to give u an idea how bad french culture is- they are by law prohibited from doing paternity DNA tests on their own children in order to not expose mom-whores.

TLDR- Even French officials know and oppenly communicate that they got tons of whores in the country and men who are rising strangers children as their own w/o knowing...

The laws regarding filiation are very strong in France, you can't just deny your child because a DNA test showed it's not yours. If you're registered as the father of someone, only a judge can remove this link between you and the child. It's the same for any kind of modification in your civil registration (to divorce, change name or change gender).

 

[Bernardougf]

The game sold well and was reviewed well.

There are no selling numbers, only engagement/players.......and reviews ? Okay.

 

[Kerotan]

Sorry they actually don't, 20% of voting rights but so it is possible.

The issue is the size of the work force, they need to loose 90% of their staff size for their output it's fucking ridiculous. Gut the IPs from Ubi and sack everyone starting over would be where the money is.

Maybe they intend to keep the spin off with those 3,000 employees and file bankruptcy in the original ubi so they can shut down and lay them all off.

 

[PeteBull]

The laws regarding filiation are very strong in France, you can't just deny your child because a DNA test showed it's not yours. If you're registered as the father of someone, only a judge can remove this link between you and the child. It's the same for any kind of modification in your civil registration (to divorce, change name or change gender).

When DNA is showing child isnt mine, im not dening my child, im dening stranger's man child, let the baby dady pay and rise it, i dont wanna have anything to do with the woman who whored herself to a stranger while being married, its common sense.

 

[Baemono]

Didn't sold well enough if they are still in trouble and shadows was supposed to be the saviour.

Ubisoft's problems were too complex to be just erased by one success, if Shadows had failed it would've been the final nail in the coffin (the previous nails being the flops of Skull & Bones, Outlaws, Prince of Persia, Avatar and their live service game I forgot the name of), they need 5 AC Shadows with no failure to come back as before, and I believe no one wants Ubisoft to be back as they were (that lead into their current problems)

 

[Shaki12345]

Didn't sold well enough if they are still in trouble and shadows was supposed to be the saviour.

Also, i clean my ass with modern reviews when trash like veilguard can score an 82, i played 20 hours of that thing before bailing out, it's the same 6-7\10 comfort food ac game as ever.

Some people find Scarlett Johansson a 9. I think she's a 6.

 

[Shaki12345]

There are no selling numbers, only engagement/players.......and reviews ? Okay.

It's the nr 2 game in the US for quite some time.

 

[GymWolf]

The laws regarding filiation are very strong in France, you can't just deny your child because a DNA test showed it's not yours. If you're registered as the father of someone, only a judge can remove this link between you and the child. It's the same for any kind of modification in your civil registration (to divorce, change name or change gender).

Sound absolutely retarded.

 

[Success]

GymWolf and PeteBull are the true Anti-Woke warriors of GAF.

If you ever want to bait them in a thread, just mention any of their keywords.

 

[GymWolf]

Some people find Scarlett Johansson a 9. I think she's a 6.

Her prime time passed a while ago but i never though she was a 9 so we can agree on that.

 

[Boneless]

On my watchlist. I don't really want to support this clown company, but then again if it can make me money who cares.

 

[Bernardougf]

It's the nr 2 game in the US for quite some time.

If the numbers were really good they would be out. Simple as that. The game is definitely not a failure, I dont think is a huge success either. But we dont have real numbers to discuss so... theres no point in doing so.

 

[GymWolf]

GymWolf and PeteBull are the true Anti-Woke warriors of GAF.

If you ever want to bait them in a thread, just mention any of their keywords.

Lol i defended games like rangarock and forbidden west that are considered super woke trash here on gaf, but nice try, mr 11 years member or whatever the fuck it was

I'm sorry that your favourite company is going down, i was one of the few who didn't wanted this result for them, but i'm also not gonna lie and say that shadows was a great game.

 

[Boneless]

Some people find Scarlett Johansson a 9. I think she's a 6.

Then you are a fool, objectively.

 

[calico]

Unfortunately I think they have no idea what to do with any of those franchises.

It's true Ubisoft put (or will put) their 'good' franchises into the subsidiary, but Ubisoft will still own 75% of the subsidiary. The fact they value the subsidiary IPs at $5bn while Ubisoft as a whole (including its 75% stake in that subsidiary) is valued at ~$1bn tells you how fucked the company as a whole must be.

 

[Success]

Lol i defended games like rangarock and forbidden west that are considered super woke trash here on gaf, but nice try, mr 11 years member or whatever the fuck it was

It is 12 years actually

 

[PeteBull]

GymWolf and PeteBull are the true Anti-Woke warriors of GAF.

If you ever want to bait them in a thread, just mention any of their keywords.

U say antiwoke, we say normal sane ppl who arent indoctrinated by western colledge/massmedia, i mean we all know results of US elections so even at the very source of wokeness u can tell huge part of society isnt giving in to secular religion 2.0, now imagine how it looks among men in other countries of the world with more traditional mindset
CNN from the 90s would be considered now right wing extremists

Notice 0 agenda pushing, 0 weird statements about why all the devs and male protag are white men, no questions about female and ppl of color devs or why protag is white angry man with a gun instead of fat woman on a wheelchair? ;D

 

[BbMajor7th]

Look at this list of most selling franchises.

Assassin's Creed. Just Dance. Tom Clancy's. Far Cry. Rayman. Prince of Persia. Watch Dogs.

Currently valued at the market capitalization of a ripe $1.36 Billion.

Seems like a no-brainer for any prospective buyer.

I mean, every one one of those franchises has been pretty thoroughly rinsed and the more valuable they are, the more rinsed they are. Like trying to sell me a Lamborghini with 500,000 miles on the clock. Yeah, it's a Lambo, but it's hardly a smart investment.

 

[BlackTron]

Sound absolutely retarded.

It's more about social stability and concern for the child than fairness to the man. Without the other man to link the child to, the system doesn't know how to reward the woman for being a skank without breaking its own mind in an impossible paradox.

 

[GymWolf]

It's more about social stability and concern for the child than fairness to the man. Without the other man to link the child to, the system doesn't know how to reward the woman for being a skank without breaking its own mind in an impossible paradox.

well that explain everyt...nope, still retarded.

 

[SJRB]

I am sure they can reform their organisation.

If they do what they did with Shadows all will be good.

Think again.

 

[vodka-bull]

Just to give u an idea how bad french culture is-

Well, at least they have a culture.

 

[Audiophile]

You're telling me if I maintain my current trading trajectory (log) for the next 15yrs I can jump in a time machine, come back to now and buy Assassin's Creed, then hire back Patrice, Corey & Jesper?

I'm on it folks..

UbiGAF/NeoSoft here we come!

Most importantly if we go for the former we're gonna change it to "oo-be" and with that to "An UbiGAF Game", not "A UbiGAF Game".


EDIT:

I'm back from 2040, sorry folks, I blew it all on hookers and coke. Turns out they invented a pill that negates the negative effects of STDs and stimulants.

Also, PS6 Pro was $1200, GTAVI wasn't released til August 2029, then tanked; leading to Take-Two/R* going bankrupt. Nintendo bought them and now Mario frequents hookers and robs pharmacies.

And the LLMs got so advanced they discovered nihilism and killed themselves.

$FARTCOIN is the currency of the future.

Ubisoft make AC & Rayman pachinko machines.

 

[Success]

U say antiwoke, we say normal sane ppl who arent indoctrinated by western colledge/massmedia, i mean we all know results of US elections so even at the very source of wokeness u can tell huge part of society isnt giving in to secular religion 2.0, now imagine how it looks among men in other countries of the world with more traditional mindset
CNN from the 90s would be considered now right wing extremists

Notice 0 agenda pushing, 0 weird statements about why all the devs and male protag are white men, no questions about female and ppl of color devs or why protag is white angry man with a gun instead of fat woman on a wheelchair? ;D

I do personally think that you are too sensitive to the woke agenda.

However, I love GAF and its people which also includes you and GymWolf .

 

[Gp1]

Some people find Scarlett Johansson a 9. I think she's a 6.

Enough of gaf for today...

 

[PeteBull]

You're telling me if I maintain my current trading trajectory (log) for the next 15yrs I can jump in a time machine, come back to now and buy Assassin's Creed, then hire back Patrice, Corey & Jesper?

I'm on it folks..

UbiGAF/NeoSoft here we come!

Most importantly if we go for the former we're gonna change it to "oo-be" and with that to "An UbiGAF Game", not "A UbiGAF Game".


EDIT:

I'm back from 2040, sorry folks, I blew it all on hookers and coke. Turns out they invented a pill that negates the negative effects of STDs and stimulants.

Also, PS6 Pro was $1200, GTAVI wasn't released til August 2029, then tanked; leading to Take-Two/R* going bankrupt. Nintendo bought them and now Mario frequents hookers and robs pharmacies.

And the LLMs got so advanced they discovered nihilism and killed themselves.

$FARTCOIN is the currency of the future.

Ubisoft make AC & Rayman pachinko machines.

 

[PeteBull]

I do personally think that you are too sensitive to the woke agenda.

However, I love GAF and its people which also includes you and GymWolf .

Its ok to have preferences, and its ok to articulate them, think of it that way-, when compared 2 men, which one is more insecure- one who allows his girl to go to parties/clubs alone and wont say shit being afraid she will leave him or one who tells her straight away- u can do w/e u want but u do single woman beheviour once while being with me and u are back to being single

 

[Roufianos]

The game sold well and was reviewed well.

A game worked on by 7000+ people, across God knows how many years, and by multiple studios. All of this just to get an 81 MC and sell a handful of million, if that? I am pretty sure there's much better bang for your buck if you're an investor.

 

[Paasei]

We should buy Ubisoft as Neogaf. Then quality games can be made again in their franchises.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Just to give u an idea how bad french culture is- they are by law prohibited from doing paternity DNA tests on their own children in order to not expose mom-whores.

when compared 2 men, which one is more insecure

With the way you always somehow manage to start talking about "bad women" on a gaming forum, I'm sorry somebody hurt you this badly and I hope you find someone to heal those deep wounds

 

[acm2000]

$1.3b? way overpriced, think GRAW 2 and R6V2 were the last Ubisoft games i purchased

 

[PeteBull]

With the way you always somehow manage to start talking about "bad women" on a gaming forum, I'm sorry somebody hurt you this badly and I hope you find someone to heal those deep wounds

Bro, im a guy, we have to improve ourselfs before we get to smash, ofc i got hurt, every guy did, hell some guys get trully hurt but not just when dating, but at the divorce, that shit can be tuff as nails compared to just"getting hurt" by a woman xD

 

[hemo memo]

Nice try Guillemot. I disagree though.

 

[Astray]

Look at this list of most selling franchises.

Assassin's Creed. Just Dance. Tom Clancy's. Far Cry. Rayman. Prince of Persia. Watch Dogs.

Currently valued at the market capitalization of a ripe $1.36 Billion.

Seems like a no-brainer for any prospective buyer.

You have to figure out what to do with 19k employees that are literally scattered around the world.. Different regulations for each country too.

That's probably the biggest deterrent here.

 

[vodka-bull]

Bro, im a guy, we have to improve ourselfs before we get to smash, ofc i got hurt, every guy did, hell some guys get trully hurt but not just when dating, but at the divorce, that shit can be tuff as nails compared to just"getting hurt" by a woman xD

Yeah but some people get over it while other stay childishly obsessed with the men/women topic. Not everything in the world's about dicks and pussies you know?

 

[hemo memo]

You have to figure out what to do with 19k employees that are literally scattered around the world.. Different regulations for each country too.

That's probably the biggest deterrent here.

Isn't Ubisoft essentially the only major western publisher with an established physical office in the MENA region? While Tencent have an office in Dubai but they are a chinese company.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

They also have an additional 2.3 billion in debt and massive opex. They have a 1.2 debt to equity ratio. They're also in a difficult position where downsizing isn't easy. The amount of severance pay you'll have to dole out is immense.

The perfect reason to be skeptical of these IP is as mentioned in that reddit post. Ghost of Tsushima an original IP is just as popular if not more so than Assassin's Creed. Why buy something if you can make something better yourself?

 

[Roufianos]

You have to figure out what to do with 19k employees that are literally scattered around the world.. Different regulations for each country too.

That's probably the biggest deterrent here.

Also, the fact that they've posted losses in 3 financial years since 2020. Even worse that this year was a loss considering Shadows launched.

I am sure someone could find a way to make Tom Clancy, Far Cry and Ass Creed profitable but the Guillemot family want to retain control and evidently they're completely retarded, who would want to work with such fools.

 

[PeteBull]

Yeah but some people get over it while other stay childishly obsessed with the men/women topic. Not everything in the world's about dicks and pussies you know?

Its actually whole purpose of human species- to survive, hell afaik all living beings have same main purpose- survival of the species/passing on their genes
U think men become rich/established to stay celibate? And imagine men at 18 had similar access to sex as women at 18 have(aka tens of milions of options even if u are avg looks/0 status/wealth/bad personality etc), we would just keep drinking and fucking, or do some low income job, not go to the gym, not buy nice clothes etc.
Men do majority of their activity in order to have higher chance to fuck and later to have enough resources to provide for their family, women spend crazy amounts in the beuaty industry to be able to fuck higher quality men and retain them

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