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[SpectreRT]

I know there are some MMA fans here, and I am joining the lot. =)
( Geh - dident realize how long this became... sorry... )

These are the fight times and fight cards for the upcoming UFC PPV

Ultimate Fight Night
Date: 8/6/2006
Event Type: Live Cable TV - Spike TV
Time: 9:00 PM EST

Official Fight Card

Middleweight Bout
Nathan Marquardt vs. Ivan Salaverry
-Marquardt has a good fighting history in Pancrase. Salaverry has a good history and experience in the UFC. Think I gotta give it to Salaverry... via split decision.

Welterweight Bout
Pete Spratt vs. Josh Koscheck
- Spratt has experience in the UFC, having lost to Newton in the past and beating Lawler in his last UFC event. All he has to do to defeat Koscheck is avoid being layed upon by the "human blanket." Spratt via knockout.

Middleweight Bout
Pete Sell vs. Nate Quarry
- Sell has an undefeated record of 5-0, having just beat Baroni in his UFC debut. Quarry has been a member of team Quest for a while. I give it to Quarry via knockout.

Light Heavyweight Bout
Sam Hoger vs. Stephen Bonnar
- Hoger is actually a decent fighter, dispite how much he was hated in the Ultimate Fighter show. I dont really know how good Bonnar is. His fight with Griffin was a simple slugfest. Dident really present any talent besides being able to give a take a punch. While that was an entertaining fight... dont really know much of either of these fighters. I would say Bonnar by decision, he can obviously take some punishment.

Middleweight Bouts
Patrick Cote vs. Chris Leben
- Cote is well versed in submissions and is well experienced. Leben is an awesome striker, who better be working on his sub- defence. He has however, sat in an armbar for like 4 minutes, and come back and compete for a few rounds, so he can take some pain obviously. I think Cote's experience is the factor here, Cote via sub in round 2.

Mike Swick vs Keith Rockel
- Swick is coming off his UFC debute win. Has a solid record of 6-1, and was a show favorite. Rockel has more experience with many wins via submission. I see him getting one more. Rockel via sub in round 1.

Welterweight Bouts
Kenny Florian vs Alex Karalexis
-Florian lost in his big UFC debute for a contract in round 1, via G&P. His record doesent say much, ( 1- 2 ), but he trains hard and has a good fighting variety. Karalexis on the other hand is coming off his UFC debute win. Dont really know which way to go with this one.

Drew Fickett vs Josh Neer
- Fickett has a great record of 23 wins with 3 losses. More than 50% of his wins came via submission, so obviously he is skilled in that genre. Neer on the other hand is a complete striker. This should be a fun fight. Neer via knockout in round 3.

This looks like a great card for a live televison fight. A few matches are just fluff, but others will really show some of these newcomers potential. No one has seen or heard anything about Stephen Bonnar since his fight with Forrest Griffin on the UFC finale, so I for one am interested in this fight.

The most interesting fight has got to be for Chris Leben vs Patrick Cote. Cote is a great canadian fighter, and Leben... he a good striker with a good fighting record... and a good crying record... Should be a good fight. Thoughts?

UFC: 54
Date: 8/20/2005
Event Type: PPV Live
Time: 10:00 PM EST


This is the card that really matters.


Official Fight Card

Light Heavweight Championship
Chuck Liddell vs. Jeremy Horn
- I for one just dont like Chuck Liddell that much, and I have been following Jeremy Horn for quite some time. He has TONS of fights under his belt, not to mention a previous victory over Liddell. It has been a long time, and Liddell has really moved to the spotlight, while Horn has been fighting in smaller shows. It will be interesting... I dont think it'll go past round 2. Horn by sub.

Light Heavyweight Bout
Randy Couture vs. Mike Van Arsdale
-After randys loss to Liddell, I am really rooting for him here. Dont know too much about Arsdale, except that he loss to Silva in the past, and won his UFC debut back in 1998. Randy wants a powerful comeback, and I believe he will get it. Randy by G&P in round 2 or 3.

Middleweight Bout
Diego Sanchez vs. Brian Gassaway
- If you watched the show, then toy know that Sanchez is a cocky bitch. Not to say that he isent talented, because he is. Undefeated thus far in his fight career, and a good fighters mindset. His fighting style reminds me of Tito O... just not AS cocky. Gassaway has much more experience than Sanchez, having competed in Superbrawl, Shooto, and Pancrase events. According to his record, I think he has much more experience in rings complete with ropes. Sanchez on the other hand, seems to like the G&P near the cage, as seen in his KOTC and UFC fights. I dont want to... but I give this one to Diego via G&P... or maybe a rear-naked choke.

Welterweight Bout
Frank Trigg vs. Georges St. Pierre
- This could be the fight of the night. Trigg is fun to watch, and always talks trash before a match. GSP is simply a smart figher. I am never bored watching either of these men compete. I dont know how to rule this one... any thoughts from the other fans?

Heavyweight Bout
Tim Sylvia vs. TBD
- Dont know what to say.... lol... but from the performance in the UFC from Sylvia lately, I may have to give it to whoever they decide to face him against. :lol

Middleweight Bouts
Matt Lindland vs. Joe Riggs
- Lindland really wants a title match, and I have seen Riggs gas too much. Lindland via sub

Dave Terrell vs. Trevor Prangley
- Terrell... there are 2 Terrell's in MMA. David... and Dave... so I dont know which one they are refering to. David Tarrell has UFC experience, while Dave Terrell would be making a UFC debut. Prangley returns to the UFC with a MMA record of 10-2. I am confused on this fight, so lets skip this shall we?

Light Heavyweight Bout
James Irvin vs. Terry Martin
- Irvin is returning to the UFC, coming off a loss. He has 8 wins, 7 coming from TKO, so the man can hit. Martin is 10-0 in MMA. 5 wins via TKO, and 4 in submissions, 1 from decision. I give this fight to Martin, due to his submission experience.


If you enjoyed reading this, please let me know. If not, lemme know so I can save time from the future PPV's. The Pride GP is finishing up in the end of August, so if you enjoyed this overview, let me know so I can create one for the Pride GP ( which will be MUCH more exciting ).

 

[EviLore]

Mostly interested in Trigg vs St. Pierre & Horn vs Liddell on this one. Ultimate Fight Night looks on par or worse than most KOTC cards; s'pose I'm moderately interested in Marquardt vs Salaverry, but that's about it.

Cool write-up, though. (Boogie will probably want to do the Final Conflict thread)

 

[Jeffahn]

I thought that Trigg broke his knee or something?

...

 

[SpectreRT]

Yeah, Trigg vs GSP will be a war. Cant wait for that fight.

I really think that in the Liddell vs Horn.. that Horn is just gonna dominate. His fighting style has changed and evolved so much, while Liddell is still a base striker... but a friggin dominating striker.

If Horn gets this fight to the ground, its over pretty much.

I am also personally interested in Bonnar vs Hoger, and Diago's fight. Curious to see if these TUF fighters have learned anything.

 

[SpectreRT]

Trigg broken knee? Not that I know of....

Last time he was on the scene was explaining why/how he got choked out again. Dont think there are any injuries for Trigg at the moment at all....

 

[Boogie]

GODDAMMIT!!!

What's with you people and upstaging me! You've all started creating threads for MMA events MONTHS ahead of time, JUST so that you can beat me to the punch, don't you?!

If you enjoyed reading this, please let me know. If not, lemme know so I can save time from the future PPV's. The Pride GP is finishing up in the end of August, so if you enjoyed this overview, let me know so I can create one for the Pride GP ( which will be MUCH more exciting ).

Create one for the Pride GP?! Why you little....

Okay, breathe, Boogie, breathe.....

Count to ten......

Okay.

Welcome, SpectreRT, it's always great to have another MMA fan on the boards. However, there is something you should know. And it is that I have traditionally been the one to create threads for MMA events. I've been doing it for well over a year now, since the time when they'd be lucky to get more than 10 replies, so I am a little protective of what role I have developed here, and yes, to be honest, I don't like the idea of a newcomer to the forum usurping that role.

Aside: I can accept when EviLore beats me to the punch, because he makes damn good preview threads, and because he's an admin and there's nothing I can do about it .


So, on topic, yes, you've done a pretty good write up here, but it's quite a bit early for UFC 54, and I'd rather like to keep my stewardship of GAF's MMA threads, with EviLore's assistance, if you don't mind.

I'll give my thoughts on the matchups later, after I take my blood pressure

 

[karasu]

:lol

 

[dem]

Trigg vs GSP could be FIGHT OF THE YEAR

This is equal to Fedor vs Cro Cop imo(yeah.. i know im crazy =P). Impossible to call.... though im calling GSP.

 

[Boogie]

Trigg vs GSP could be FIGHT OF THE YEAR

This is equal to Fedor vs Cro Cop imo(yeah.. i know im crazy =P). Impossible to call.... though im calling GSP.

Actually, I agree, you could very well be right. Because Trigg/GSP has the potential to be an all-out WAR, while it is very likely that Fedor/Crocop could end inside of the first 4 minutes.

 

[SpectreRT]

Dident mean to tread on your territory....

*cowers in fear*

=)

Both fights, GSP vs Trigg and Crocop vs Fedor .... kinda worry me honestly.

There is HUGE hype behind Crocop vs Fedor. Its bringging MMA to a new known level really, people that have NEVER cared about MMA before are ordering ( or already ordered ) the next PRIDE just to see the remainder of the PRIDE GP, and to see Fedor vs Crocop. If this fight is over in less that 5 minutes... it will be a major dissapointment. I personally hope it ends with a knockout in the middle of round 2. Crocop via LHK. =)

As for GSP vs Trigg. They are completely evenly matched, no doubt it'll be a war (hopefully a a fun to watch war, and not a 1 punch KO or 1min sub war). Problem is... where to they go from here? They both already lost to Hughes... Trigg lost twice...

 

[Boogie]

's all good, no worries

 

[dem]

GSP looked real good against Hughes before he got caught at the LAST SECOND

 

[Boogie]

Okay, I'm gonna try to give my thoughts here, one event at a time.

First, the SpikeTV Ultimate Fight Night.

While I do agree with EviLore that it isn't the calibre of a regular UFC event, but that being said, it does have some interesting/exciting matchups.

And hey, I'll take any MMA on free TV that I can get!

I don't like how much the UFC is relying on TUF fighters. I understand why they are, but I don't like it.

Anyhow, the matchups:

Kenny Florian vs Alex Karalexis

Ugh, don't care... say, Florian by sub

Drew Fickett vs Josh Neer

Uh, also don't care? Neer's seems to have been getting a lot of hype from people on mma.tv. I guess I'll go with him, by TKO.

Mike Swick vs Keith Rockel

Still don't care....Swick by TKO

Patrick Cote vs. Chris Leben

Ah, here we go. This one promises fireworks. Quite frankly, Leben did not impress me on TUF. He never let his hands go AT ALL against Kosheck and got laid on for 2 rounds, and then he couldn't put away Florian whom he outweighed by a massive amount.

I believe that Cote is the more technical fighter, and I believe it will show. Cote by KO.

Sam Hoger vs. Stephen Bonnar

Eh, I didn't want to see Bonnar just get matched up with one of the TUF guys. I think I have to go with Bonnar here, by sub.

Pete Sell vs. Nate Quarry

Hmm, all I've seen of Sell has been his fight with Baroni, and quite frankly, it's hard to tell what level a fighter is at just by a fight with Baroni. In my opinion, Sell was losing the fight until he got the guillotine, and I think that Quarry will be able to push the pace much better than Baroni did, and win by decision.

Pete Spratt vs. Josh Koscheck

Now here's another match that I'm excited about. Spratt is an exciting fighter, and one of the best strikers in MMA. Unfortunately, Koscheck does have the skills to get Spratt down and lay on him for 3 rounds. And that is going to be Koscheck's game plan, because he cannot stand with Spratt for any length of time, and he won't want to risk him getting back to his feet.

However, I believe that Spratt's experience will allow him to get enough chances to knock out Josh. It may not happen at the beginning of the first round, but he will be able to survive to the second, and the third, and having a chance every time they stand of putting Josh away. Spratt by KO.


Nathan Marquardt vs. Ivan Salaverry

I think it interesting that UFC is putting a fight which is basically for the "hardcore" fans as the main event for the card. Gotta give them props for that. Unfortunately, I haven't seen much of Marquardt to know what he's capable of, except that he's had an impressive record in Pancrase. I think Salaverry will take it just because he comes across as a very seasoned, smart fighter, who is very collected, and excellent at executing his gameplan. But we shall see. Salaverry by decision.

 

[Boogie]

Now, UFC 54...

The UFC has done some interesting things with this card. Liddell/Horn came from out in left field and caught everyone by surprise, and Couture/MVA wasn't an expected match either.

Anyway, starting with the prelims:

James Irvin vs Terry Martin

Terry Martin is making an appearance here as the Obligatory Fighter That Boogie Has Never Heard Of(TM). I wonder if Irvin has learned how to keep his hands up for this fight? I'm going to guess no and pick Martin, by, oh, let's say TKO.

David Terrell vs Trevor Prangley

Spectre, this is definitely the David Terrell who fought Tanner for the Middleweight Belt a few months back, not the one who's only 3-0.

And this fight should be a gimme for Terrell to get him back on the winning path so that the UFC can build him up again. Prangley has more experience, but Terrell has top level skills. The only thing in question about Terrell is his ability to overcome adversity, but I don't see Prangley really testing him. Terrell by TKO.

Diego Sanchez vs Brian Gassaway

Gassaway also goes into the "Who the Hell is he?" category, which is surprising since he's had so many fights (He's 19-12-2). He may be more experienced than Diego, but I don't see that as being an advantage when nearly half of that "experience" is losses. Diego is a perfect 12-0, with only 1 fight going to decision. I may not have seen Gassaway fight, but I feel comfortable in saying that Diego has the better skills. Diego by submission.

Tim Sylvia vs Tra Telligman

Sylvia may be on a bit of a slide of late, but losses to Arlovski and Mir are nothing to be ashamed of. He may be awkward to some, but he is hard to deal with. He destroyed Ricco Rodriguez.

I've found that some people on the MMA forums like to hype up Telligman a ton as some absolutely devastating boxer, but when I look at his record, I just don't see it. He's only 7-4-1. I've only seen the second Rizzo fight, and maybe the Vitor fight, but I don't remember him impressing me all that much. He only has two (T)KO wins, although two other wins were by submission due to strikes. He hasn't fought in two years, and only has three fights in the last 5 years, so he'll be rusty as hell.

I don't see Sylvia losing this one. Sylvia by KO.

Joe Riggs vs Matt Lindland

Ah, Matt Lindland, the Rodney Dangerfield of MMA. He just can't get that title shot, no matter how much he deserves it.

Recently, Joe Riggs made a post on the Underground calling out Lindland and talking some smack. People replied excitedly, hoping for Lindland to respond with one of his legendary verbal beatdowns, and he didn't disappoint. Lindland truly is the king of smacktalk on the internet.

As for the fight, I don't see Riggs beating Lindland. Last time we saw Riggs, he was whining after being choked out because no one would stand and strike with him. Well guess what, Joseph? Lindland ain't going to strike with you either. He's going to dive right for the takedown, and he's going to get it because of that Olympic silver medal he wears around his neck, and then he's going to pick you apart with his methodical (bordering on boring at times) ground and pound.

Maybe he'll finish him, maybe he won't, but Lindland will win. I say by decision.

Frank Trigg vs Georges St.Pierre

Oh hells yeah. I am friggin' PUMPED for this matchup. I am one of the leading members of the GSP bandwagon. I call myself a fan of many fighters, but GSP is one of those guys I get downright excited about seeing fight. He is the future, and the future just might be now.

But how does he match up with Trigg? In my opinion, very well. I'm not saying that he'll run through him, or that Trigg doesn't have a chance to win, but I do believe that this match will go to GSP. Here's why:

Striking: There is no question in my mind that GSP is the better striker between the two. Trigg said that he wanted to stand with Charuto Verissimo, but a couple minutes into their fight, he was getting tagged and rocked and had to go for the takedown.

Compare that with GSP, who seems much more confident with his standup skills. He'll try crazy stuff like the spinning side kick (and LAND IT), his KO of Jay Hieron was devastating.

Jiu-jitsu: I also believe that GSP's jiu-jitsu is far superior to Trigg's. GSP is very technical and methodical with his ground skills. He quickly took out Strasser with his jiu-jitsu, and also nullified Jason Miller's slick ground game. On the other hand, Trigg has had some trouble defending a rear-naked choke recently.

However, I think that the fight may come down to their wrestling skills. And quite frankly, although Trigg is the more decorated wrestler, I do believe that GSP may be able to outwrestle him. They were both fairly competitive wrestling against Hughes. And in the recent Abu-Dhabi tournament, I recall reading that GSP faced off against some top-level wrestler and won by getting several takedown on him.

I simply think that GSP will be able to outwork Trigg in every area of the fight and win by decision. I could be wrong, but I'm rooting for GSP.

Randy Couture vs. Mike Van Arsdale

This was a rather unexpected matchup. You can't write off MVA here, because I believe he was actually a more decorated wrestler than Couture. Nonetheless, I think that Couture's greater experience at the higher levels of the sport will give him the edge and allow him to win later in the fight. Couture by TKO.

Main event:
UFC Light-Heavyweight Championship

Chuck Liddell (16-3)vs. Jeremy Horn (at least 75-13-5)

MAJOR props to the UFC for having the guts to bring back Horn, and for giving him a title shot against their golden boy right of the bat. Very risky for them to do.

How will this fight go? Very hard to say. Although Horn definitely deserves to be back in the UFC, it could be argued that he doesn't deserve to have a title fight in the 205lbs division right off the bat (the Middleweight division might be a better fit for him).

Nonetheless, the hook of Chuck trying to avenge his first loss is a compelling one. Can he do it?

I think so. I am inclined to believe that Chuck has improved more than Horn in the time since they fought. Chuck has proven that he has the ability to fix the minor flaws in his game. He has great wrestling to keep the fight standing where he almost always finds a way to land the KO punch. Tito couldn't take him down. In their first fight, Couture had a hard time keeping him down at first, and in the second fight, couldn't even get to the clinch.

I believe that Horn won't be able to get Chuck to the ground, and that Chuck may be able to get the KO.

Now, many people reply to that "But, Horn has never been KO'ed!"

Yeah, well neither had Randy, Tito, or Babalu Sobral. Then they reply "Yeah, but Horn has had over 100 fights!"

To this I say: People, Jeremy Horn is great. But at LEAST half of his fights are against bums, and a lot of the rest are against 185-pounders. He hasn't fought much top-205lbs competition in a while, and I believe that Liddell will continue the impressive run that he's had. Liddell by KO.

 

[Boogie]

Weigh-in and training pics for Ultimate Fight Night are up at MMAweekly. Can't post 'em here because the site doesn't let you right-click to copy urls.

http://69.46.29.2:8080/absoluteig/gallery.asp?categoryid=176

http://69.46.29.2:8080/absoluteig/gallery.asp?categoryid=174

 

[Asbel]

God, I hope this will bring a lot more positive exposure to the sport of Mixed Martial Arts in the US. I'm so tired of so called 'journalists' watching a Toughman contest and consider it all the research they need to write a piece blasting MMA. I'm glad the mainstream get to see the training the fighters go through on TUF. And hopefully, the Marquardt/Salaverry fight should be a great showcase of technical skill for everyone watching.

 

[EviLore]

Can't post 'em here because the site doesn't let you right-click to copy urls.

Protip: use firefox, at least when annoying websites prevent right-clicks.

 

[Boogie]

Can't wait for Cote to destroy Leben and Spratt to pick apart Koschek

Protip: use firefox, at least when annoying websites prevent right-clicks.

hmm, might be time to finally switch...

 

[Spinning Plates]

Here's a 10 minute trailer for tonight...

http://www.theultimatefighter.tv/video/ufn_weighin_loop.wmv

Also UFC Unleashed is repeated at 8pm just before we go live. That features Koscheck, Quarry, Leben and a few of Salaverry's fights.

 

[Asbel]

That was a nice little highlight of the fighters on tonights card.

Koscheck predicted 1st round tapout in his fight. That's pretty confident. Your plans out the window when you get rocked though.

I'd still like for Kenny to show us his bjj too. And please, no circling this time. :lol

 

[dskillzhtown]

I'll be watching tonight. I have been looking forward to this.

 

[dskillzhtown]

I'll be watching tonight. I have been looking forward to this.

 

[BigGreenMat]

The Leben vs. Kote fight was pretty good. Very close Leben was just more aggressive and took Kote down a bit more.

 

[dem]

Wow... could Marquardt/Salaverry have been more boring?

 

[Minotauro]

Well, that show was exactly what wasn't needed. Bravo, gentlemen.

 

[dskillzhtown]

Well, that show was exactly what wasn't needed. Bravo, gentlemen.

I thought it was a good show overall. Alot of good matches, but the last one was a clunker. Really not the way you wanted to go out, but overall, the show was pretty good. I enjoyed it anyway.

 

[Boogie]

Random thoughts:

God-damn that was a boring main event. Seriously Ivan. A body triangle guard from the bottom just shows that you're not even pretending to try anything from the bottom. Nate wasn't any better.

Cecil Peoples should NEVER ref an MMA fight again. One of the most ridiculous premature stoppages I've ever seen. As soon as I saw him, I thought "Uh-oh, I've never seen him ref a fight before, I hope he doesn't jump in too quickly", and sure enough, he does. Ban him from judging fights too, for that matter.

Rest of the event was pretty good. I'm disappointed in Spratt. I guess he should stick to kickboxing. Koschek is improving well. He could be a force in a couple years.

Leben finally impressed me a bit. Especially in the post-fight interview, he was pretty classy. And he knows he has holes in his game and wants to work at them. A good sign. That decision could have gone either way though, imo.

 

[EviLore]

Yeah, agreed. Incredibly bad stoppage, boring-as-hell main event, and leben went from "I'm the best in the world" to "I have holes in my game, as I'm sure you noticed in this fight, but I want to work on improving."

Btw, this event was a good 80% commercials, especially bad with the two short fights to start things off. I made this a night and watched with some friends, but it just illustrates yet again why I don't have my television connected to network/cable/otherwise programming at home. Next time I'll just wait for the rip, and when I want to show my friends MMA I'll reference Ultimate Fight Night as a reason not to watch stuff live "just because," and have us watch Final Conflict 2005 or something. Ugh.

 

[Boogie]

Btw, this event was a good 80% commercials,

BOB YOUR HEAD

 

[EviLore]

Btw, spectre was 2-5-1 with his predictions. ;b

 

[Boogie]

I was only 4-4 myself, I believe.

 

[SpectreRT]

Yeah, I was surprised....

My predictions sucked it up. Glad I dident bet!

 

[JPRaup]

I usuallty loathe any type of wrestling but I had a chance to check this out and its actually interesting, +1 for you guys reccomending

 

[Boogie]

I usuallty loathe any type of wrestling but I had a chance to check this out and its actually interesting, +1 for you guys reccomending

I am tempted to reject your +1 out of sheer spite for you instinctively associating MMA with pro wrestling.

 

[Asbel]

Late thoughts.

God-damn that was a boring main event. Seriously Ivan. A body triangle guard from the bottom just shows that you're not even pretending to try anything from the bottom. Nate wasn't any better.

Agreed. No risks were taken in that fight. I'll give credit to Nate's skills for shutting out Salaverry's game, but playing it that safe may not have been worth the win for him.

Cecil Peoples should NEVER ref an MMA fight again. One of the most ridiculous premature stoppages I've ever seen. As soon as I saw him, I thought "Uh-oh, I've never seen him ref a fight before, I hope he doesn't jump in too quickly", and sure enough, he does. Ban him from judging fights too, for that matter.

Man, I really wanted to see more of Quarry's skills in the cage. After the previous two fights, I'm starting to agree that he is the best middleweight from TUF, too. Drago would've been a good test of his ground game.

Btw, this event was a good 80% commercials, especially bad with the two short fights to start things off.

Heh, I was really starting to miss ppv in that first hour. Thank god for Bonnar/Hoger.

Next time I'll just wait for the rip, and when I want to show my friends MMA I'll reference Ultimate Fight Night as a reason not to watch stuff live "just because," and have us watch Final Conflict 2005 or something. Ugh.

I don't know what being live had to do with the anything sucking. I know I'd like to watch Fedor/Crocop live. Did you mean free event? If you're willing to shell out to introduce your friends to mma, go for it. I know I was ready to chip in to save myself from the tedious commercials last night.
Boring fights though, it kinda averages one or two per event. I think my casual friends have come to accept it when they choose to watch a show now. It's the nature of any sport and not something you could keep away from viewers indefinitely. As long as the good one are enough to bring the viewers back, it works out. And luckily, we did get the Bonnar and Swick fights this show.
As a side note about watching with casual friends. Be careful when they catch your favorite fighter on a bad night. Cuz when they belittle your favorite fighter, you'll feel like kicking their ass. :lol

The Leben vs. Kote fight was pretty good. Very close Leben was just more aggressive and took Kote down a bit more.

If you liked that, be sure to see Leben vs Doerksen. Leben wouldn't quit on the ground and Doerksen wouldn't back down standing.
http://rapidshare.de/files/2884517/leben_doerksen.WMV.html
I'm glad Leben's humble now but I'm dissappointed in his game as I saw little improvement. I know he's a great slugger but the top guys will take him apart on the ground. Well, I'm probably being harsh since he was preparing for Cote.

I'm most impressed with Swick myself. I thought his punches against Alex were kinda sloppy but those strikes on Ray were sharp and accurate along with being lightning quick. I couldn't believe Swick was that accurate at that speed but when he hit Ray with 3-4 shots again on the ground, my doubts were gone.

And what else can be said about Bonnar other than don't try to choke him out. Another exciting fight and clearly the better man this time. Bonnar for next UFN main event.

As for the event as a whole, I had high hopes but low expectations (in the TUF fighters). For the most part, there was a good level of improvement and that help make the event for me.

 

[J2 Cool]

so what were the results?

 

[Boogie]

so what were the results?

:lol I guess nobody actually did post them, huh?

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?eventid=3100

 

[J2 Cool]

:lol thx. I'm trying to guess based on 2-5-1 on his predictions and 4-4 on yours.. That helps though.

 

[Bildocube]

Cecil Peoples was pathetic, that was such a bullshit fight stoppage in Quarry/Sell. He should never ref again.

 

[dem]

I was just reading Sherdog and the odds of the Liddell/Horn fight have been brought to my attention.

Chuck Liddell -265
Jeremy Horn +225

Anyone else think this is a REALLY good bet (for Horn =P )?
If Horn can keep from getting knocked out for a round or 2 I think he has a really good chance.

hmmm
Very tempted to throw a few hundred down...

 

[Boogie]

Yeah, that could very well be a good bet for Horn.

I don't think that Horn is going to win, myself, but considering those odds, and that Horn definitely has a chance, it might be a good bet to make.

 

[truffleshuffle83]

lidell is nuts. horn better hope he doesnt end up like ortiz or coutre

 

[Asbel]

numbers of interest

# Chuck Liddell 204 LB
# Jeremy Horn 203 LB

Looks like that's the highest Jeremy could go while Chuck's likely to add 10 lbs to his advantage. My picks are Chuck and St. Pierre. Tonight should be a great night.

 

[dem]

Shit... I wanna bet HORN.. but I can only find him at around +160 now.

arg..
I need +200

 

[EviLore]

I don't know that I'd bet against liddell for this fight, despite horn being the king of the b-grade fighters & never being koed over those 100-150 fights of his (and having beaten liddell a long time ago).

I'd like it to happen, though. If horn wins I'll move him from B+ to A- in my ranking book, and it'll definitely shake up the UFC LHW div.

 

[Boogie]

Less than 5 hours till fight time. GO GSP! Getting nervous though......

 

[Gregory]

Looking forward to Trigg vs St.Pierre. St.Pierre is the classiest fighter to ever enter the UFC, and one of the most talented.

 

[Asbel]

Quick Pierre interview. Pierre reveals his secret strategy! But people have half guessed this already, even Trigg. Looks like Pierre will forgo the standup and go straight to the wrestling match for dominant position. We'll see.

http://www.mmanation.tv/article.php?sid=90&mode=&order=0

 

[SpectreRT]

prelims.....

James Irvin wins....... so I am 0-1 thus far....


Looks like I can pick 'em.....

:lol

Wow... Martin was carried out by a medical team....

Went for a takedown, and Irvin cought him with a jumping knee.... ouch.....

 

[Boogie]

Wow, great event, mostly for Liddell/Horn and GSP Trigg.

Liddell absolutely dominated, and fought a smart fight. It was a very tactical standup fight, imo. Chuck was very patient in waiting for his opportunities to hurt Horn, and he just threw off the few takedown attempts like they were nothing.

I also liked seeing Chuck take a page out of Mirko's book and waving Horn up when Horn was on his back. If you're the dominant striker, why engage on the ground when it's not to your advantage? Too many strikers (ie. Joe Riggs) engage in the guard, get beat, and then complain that nobody will stand with them. Well, if you want to stand, then when your opponent is lying on his back, just back up and wave him up.

Mirko (and Chuck tonight) were successful because they only followed through with strikes on the ground when they had their opponents rocked and in trouble.

Chuck fought a great fight.

And about Georges St. Pierre: WOW. He completely schooled Trigg. Made him look like he didn't even belong in the cage with him. I mean, Jason Miller put up a better fight against GSP. Can't wait to see him run through some more people.