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[teiresias]

http://www.rense.com/general61/rio.htm

 

[The Shadow]

Probably a hoax. It's too noticeable and it's right on camera. If a director or editor saw that scene, they'd flip out about a botched shot. They used filters to fake night but that thing is still pretty bright. Can you imagine how noticeable it would have been during filming without the filters dimming it?

 

[3phemeral]

I don't know -- it says it was shot outdoors but those mountains look completely fake to me.

 

[The Shadow]

I don't know -- it says it was shot outdoors but those mountains look completely fake to me.

I would also say that it doesn't look like it was filmed outdoors, because those reflective areas aren't bright enough.

When something is filmed in the day and then filtered to make it look darker, it looks cheesy as hell because any reflective area looks really bright, making it obvious that it was filmed outside in sunlight. Those reflective areas don't look bright enough, more like studio lights.

Granted, I've never seen it done in black and white so the effect might be better achieved that way. In any case, I don't see how it could be missed, if it was filmed outdoors and in the day.

 

[Drexon]

Says in the "making of" section on the DVD that it was filmed entirely outdoors, and to quote someone else:

As for the object passing over the tree branch, that visual effect can happen with a blurred glowing object. Because of the brightness of the object, the thin branch of the tree gets washed out when the bright glow of the object passes behind it. Here's another example of that visual effect appearing with a tree branch.
http://www.ufoevidence.org/Photographs/Photo10.htm

Hope I don't come off as a nut.

 

[Error Macro]

Can anyone confirm if this is on the DVD or anything? This is actually one of the few Wayne movies I don't have.

 

[Laguna X]

Can anyone confirm if this is on the DVD or anything? This is actually one of the few Wayne movies I don't have.

I guess I could check it out. Give me a few minutes though.

 

[The Shadow]

Hope I don't come off as a nut.

Too late.


Actually, I consider myself a "believer" or rather someone who thinks there's more to the UFO phenomena than most. People are too dismissive of them and although the majority probably are explainable, there's still a good number that are unexplainable.

In any case, I just don't see this one as credible evidence.

 

[Drexon]

In any case, I just don't see this one as credible evidence.

Well me neither, I was just destroying your argument.

 

[Laguna X]

Okay, I just finished watching the scene on DVD and the "ufo" does appear. I think it's some kind of lighting thing however.

 

[The Shadow]

Well me neither, I was just destroying your argument.

I never said I was absolutely certain.

 

[Koshiro]

This is the result of someone with too much time on their hands and an overactive imagination.

 

[Particle Physicist]

Okay, I just finished watching the scene on DVD and the "ufo" does appear. I think it's some kind of lighting thing however.

yeah, it looks like it goes in front of the tree in the background.. yet its still tiny. its probably the reflection of the lighting equipment or something.

 

[Goreomedy]

It's the lights glinting off of an old metallic boom mic. Notice how the "ufo" swings above John Wayne during his dialogue, and then predicts the actors' movement just before they walk to the left.

 

[Drexon]

Kind of a long shot. But for the sake of argument suppose the reflection of the mic gets "drawn out" horizontally, that mic has to be pretty far away, and thin to not show up in any other form than that glimmer.

Edit: Oh wait, if it's a reflection of a metal bar that gets drawn out by the camera it would disappear entirely when it goes behind that branch, no? Instead it splits into 2, suggesting it's an elongated source of light, and not just a point, being drawn out by an optical phenomenon.

 

[Socreges]

Kind of a long shot. But for the sake of argument suppose the reflection of the mic gets "drawn out" horizontally, that mic has to be pretty far away, and thin to not show up in any other form than that glimmer.

Rarely more appropriate:

 

[Warm Machine]

Then there is the guy commiting suicide in the background of Wizard of Oz

 

[The Shadow]

Then there is the guy commiting suicide in the background of Wizard of Oz

Or the ghost in Three Men and a Baby.

 

[Warm Machine]

Or the ghost in Three Men and a Baby.

That one I hadn't heard of...

Just looked into it. On Snopes and proven false I wanted a real ghost!

 

[Goreomedy]

Kind of a long shot. But for the sake of argument suppose the reflection of the mic gets "drawn out" horizontally, that mic has to be pretty far away, and thin to not show up in any other form than that glimmer.

Rio Grande was soft-matted. Which means, if the projection of the image isn't properly masked by the projectionist, you would be able to see a boom mic dipping into this scene. The DVD is properly "masked" in the full frame aspect ratio, which keeps the mic just off camera, but the reflection on the lens remains.

Common film artifact, really.