UFO'S: LAST WEEKEND TONIGHT

The ancient aliens stuff is a great watch, both to admire the ruins and camerawork and to have a laugh at the various theories. I've had fun reading chariots of the gods, various other books and theories. Ultimately when reading and researching you end up dismissing a lot which they present as killer evidence.

Christopher Dunn pyramids is a different level and his core theory has a logical basis and his recent book accepts where evidence has changed his thoughts. I like his engineer approach.

Graham Hancock is the most logical conclusion (that there was ancient civilisation), much more logical to link similar myths and religion etc than it being aliens and he has some great lectures on youtube. Shame he goes a bit hippy on drug talk.
See, he gets real cagey with what he considers "an advanced civilization". The implication is like a Roman tech group, somehow living in isolation in some now inaccessible place (island that sunk into the sea) that could circumnavigate the globe, peacefully interact with numerous stone age tribes to guide their development, but somehow leave no tools, pots, ships, or carvings behind, no structures, no bases, mines, ports, or bridges, no real linguistic connections, and yeah, it took 1000s of years for their guidance on domestication of animals and plants, development of technology, and cultural growth to have an affect. Not once did these guys import seeds, animals, or material (knowingly or unknowingly) in ways we can not account for with natural migration today, they lost no ships in any areas where everyone else did, and they built no structures in prime areas where everyone else did.

The idea is romantic, sure, but not plausible. More likely would be civilizations from 80K years ago wiped out and starting over from the supervolcano, but even then they cant have been mining much because evidence of that lasts practically forever.
 
See, he gets real cagey with what he considers "an advanced civilization". The implication is like a Roman tech group, somehow living in isolation in some now inaccessible place (island that sunk into the sea) that could circumnavigate the globe, peacefully interact with numerous stone age tribes to guide their development, but somehow leave no tools, pots, ships, or carvings behind, no structures, no bases, mines, ports, or bridges, no real linguistic connections, and yeah, it took 1000s of years for their guidance on domestication of animals and plants, development of technology, and cultural growth to have an affect. Not once did these guys import seeds, animals, or material (knowingly or unknowingly) in ways we can not account for with natural migration today, they lost no ships in any areas where everyone else did, and they built no structures in prime areas where everyone else did.

The idea is romantic, sure, but not plausible. More likely would be civilizations from 80K years ago wiped out and starting over from the supervolcano, but even then they cant have been mining much because evidence of that lasts practically forever.
Its been a while but my takeaway was that he believes a lot will be under the sea as coastlines changed with ice ages receeding (he showed dives on areas shown on old maps in his Netflix series). That catastrophy wiping out an advanced civilisation (as in sea faring, farming etc). He points to the piri reis map and believes based on older maps. Also genetic evidence of south America being inhabited by (if I remember correctly) Polynesian or Indiginous Australians.

Göbekli Tepe is proof that at least hunter gatherers were much more advanced builders and astronomers 12,000 years ago than we previously thought. I think there is scope for a lost civilisation yet to be uncovered. I am not talking flying saucers, pyramid building, stone levitating atlantians; but people who made advances in areas that took us thousands of years to reach again (and hundreds of years since surpassed) and possibly some advanced techniques never rediscovered.

I like the fact he is asking questions and getting more people interested in our past. Evidence as you state needs to be gathered but it won't be found if people aren't searching such places yet. An extra set of eyes can only help (even if it offends the professionals), the analysis and conclusions will follow any discoveries.
 
Its been a while but my takeaway was that he believes a lot will be under the sea as coastlines changed with ice ages receeding (he showed dives on areas shown on old maps in his Netflix series). That catastrophy wiping out an advanced civilisation (as in sea faring, farming etc). He points to the piri reis map and believes based on older maps. Also genetic evidence of south America being inhabited by (if I remember correctly) Polynesian or Indiginous Australians.

Göbekli Tepe is proof that at least hunter gatherers were much more advanced builders and astronomers 12,000 years ago than we previously thought. I think there is scope for a lost civilisation yet to be uncovered. I am not talking flying saucers, pyramid building, stone levitating atlantians; but people who made advances in areas that took us thousands of years to reach again (and hundreds of years since surpassed) and possibly some advanced techniques never rediscovered.

I like the fact he is asking questions and getting more people interested in our past. Evidence as you state needs to be gathered but it won't be found if people aren't searching such places yet. An extra set of eyes can only help (even if it offends the professionals), the analysis and conclusions will follow any discoveries.
I like him as well but he gets really defensive in ways I don't think he needs to. Personally I think he is just trying to keep the grift alive for $$$ as lots of the places he thinks could hide evidence have in fact been explored to various extents and nothing suspicious has been found.

The idea that polynesians could have travelled the pacific thousands of years before we "think" they did isn't really an upheaval of current theory IMHO, just the fuzziness of dating tech from relatively sparse scraps at times. But something like a large artifact building civilization in the Americas well before Columbus (the mound people, etc) or clear evidence of artistic commonalities between Egyptians and mesoamericans to give better evidence they shared information would be more compelling for me. I like the ancient astrounaut stuff as well but the more we look out into the stars the more remote we seem to actually be.
 
This subject is an escalating topic since the new york times article
nimitz encounter
David Grusch et all congress hearing
now the hearing tomorrow
this is what the whitehouse previously said also
 
This subject is an escalating topic since the new york times article
nimitz encounter
David Grusch et all congress hearing
now the hearing tomorrow
this is what the whitehouse previously said also


I'm not expecting much from the hearing tomorrow. The one with David Grusch was intriguing, but in the end, it didn't lead anywhere. We still don't know anything meaningful.

I used to follow the topic closely, but it's just noise now. What we need is someone bold enough to come forward and release some real information.

If you check out r/ufo, it's mostly people asking, 'Anyone know what this is?' while sharing blurry vertical videos of distant, shimmering lights.
 
I'm not expecting much from the hearing tomorrow. The one with David Grusch was intriguing, but in the end, it didn't lead anywhere. We still don't know anything meaningful.

I used to follow the topic closely, but it's just noise now. What we need is someone bold enough to come forward and release some real information.

If you check out r/ufo, it's mostly people asking, 'Anyone know what this is?' while sharing blurry vertical videos of distant, shimmering lights.

I'm a big believer of Aliens but I feel that this whole "disclosure" is just the government trying to distract us from other stuff
 
How does that work?

Conversations about aliens make me forget about the cost of groceries or wars for a few minutes?

Well my thoughts is that they are using this as disinformation so when they reveal that this disclosure was fake than the next time something real happens when it comes to Aliens, people will point back to the fake disclosure that happened. This is just speculation on my part though since I remember when they started showing stuff from the disclosure, there was that train derailment in Ohio. The train had chemicals on it and they exploded and one town really suffered from the aftermath. I always found that timing weird
 
Are we going to try the UFO thread again without destroying each other.
Lets Go Conan Obrien GIF by Team Coco
 
I'm not expecting much from the hearing tomorrow. The one with David Grusch was intriguing, but in the end, it didn't lead anywhere. We still don't know anything meaningful.

I used to follow the topic closely, but it's just noise now. What we need is someone bold enough to come forward and release some real information.

If you check out r/ufo, it's mostly people asking, 'Anyone know what this is?' while sharing blurry vertical videos of distant, shimmering lights.

The US government (and I'm sure other world governments) are holding onto a lot of information. That's certain. I'm not saying it's aliens, but the evidence of there being something that we currently can't explain in our skies is pretty clear cut.

I guess the question is why withhold this information? Let's pretend it is aliens. If the US government, backed up by other nations, confirmed our planet was being visited by aliens, how do you think the majority of the population would react.

I'm sure a lot of people would be comfortable with that knowledge and just want to know why they're here. A very large percentage of the earth's population would freak the fuck out. That's what they probably want to avoid. You have to break in the idea very, very slowly to avoid mass panic.
 
I've been fascinated with the phenomenon for years. I'm fairly confident that lot of what you hear is a load of shite but something is going on, and that's official. It's crazy that the US government has confirmed this and it's not getting half as much traction as I would've expected. The problem is we only get poor quality footage and a truckload of witness testimonies. From what I hear from the likes of Luis Elizondo is that the US military has HD footage and other means of recording UAP that it is undeniable. The reason we aren't seeing it is because it discloses military tactics and technologies. Imagine for instance they have high quality footage from a UAP roaming around Chinese military installations. That would be a bit of an awkward conversation.
 
About that recent hearing:

The "whistleblower document" about that secret group known as Immaculate Constellation
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It's essentially the same old story, but now it's unfolding in a formal hearing

Dozens of generals and high-ranking officials have previously echoed what Elizondo has said

I don't mean to sound negative or discredit him, however
 


Wtf are those orbs being hit by a missile, only to take 0 damage...mental

And explain the shape-shifting one in day time
 


I liked watching this, lighthearted look at UFO/UAP history.

I thought I would share this link

feel free to say it was the planet Venus and probe me if it's been threaded already

robin williams GIF

Jufonuk be like:

"Probe me wrong"
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Wtf are those orbs being hit by a missile, only to take 0 damage...mental

And explain the shape-shifting one in day time

Regarding the orbs: probably CGI


One user commenting on the subreddit said the clip was originally shared by a YouTube channel called "Section 51" (bit.ly/3JdVuLn), managed by CGI artists. Indeed, the logo seen on the bottom right corner of the clip is the same as the one visible on Section 51's website (here).
The channel, which regularly posts videos of supposed UFO sightings, has the following description: "Welcome to Section 51 Universe, we are French visual effects artists and pleased to share our point of view on sciences, space, UFO & ancient aliens theories (sic) and many more!" (here)
While some captions on their videos indicate they were created with CGI, this is not always the case. Their website says their videos are for "entertainment" (bit.ly/3mlQVFq).
Similar videos to the one circulating on social media can be seen on the channel (bit.ly/3Je8mRH), (bit.ly/3Ye6mgr), (bit.ly/3mbVylv).
Section 51 did not immediately reply to a Reuters request for comment.
VERDICT
Miscaptioned. The video was seemingly created by CGI artists and does not show a real UFO sighting in Afghanistan.
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our work to fact-check social media posts here

And I still stand by my position that there isn't a single piece of compelling UFO/UAP footage out there.
 
Regarding the orbs: probably CGI




And I still stand by my position that there isn't a single piece of compelling UFO/UAP footage out there.

I always find it funny that no matter what it is, its always "explainable" but when it comes down to it no one really explains it. They just guess and move on. On UFO reddit there's at least 10 objects every month that no one has an answer for and everyone just shrugs and moves along. That's considering its filled with skeptics.

That's been the story for 80+ years. Almost a dozen nations have secret UFO programs that study the same things. Japan, Brazil, and the US all had completely separate hearings for their own cases. For no reason? Everyone is wrong somehow for 80 years? How was the greatest generation of WW2 lying about anomalies activity across all sides of the war? Even the nazis were reporting being observed by strange objects. Just seems bizarre that in every single case these professionals are always lying/mistaken. And when I say professionals, not just fighter pilots, nuclear weapons officers, intelligence officers, again, in many different countries.

Just one example of "everyone is lying/mistaken."



I'd argue the Belgium and Peruvian UFO cases are even better.



And if you think about it, our reaction to something inconspicuous and unknown is exactly how humans would respond. So typical. "Meh, probably bullshit." Right. Just generations of professionals telling the same lies over and over.
 
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I always hoped there was something to the UFO-phenomena but they lost me when they started talking about multiple UFO crashes. What happened, they run out of gas or something? How incompetent are these ETs?

And all these videos... There's never a smoking gun, always the clear possibility of it being a bird, balloon, sensor artifact or CGI.
 
I always hoped there was something to the UFO-phenomena but they lost me when they started talking about multiple UFO crashes. What happened, they run out of gas or something? How incompetent are these ETs?

And all these videos... There's never a smoking gun, always the clear possibility of it being a bird, balloon, sensor artifact or CGI.


Oh yeah our vehicles/technology never breaks down or have an accident

What a dumb argument.
 
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It's kinda crazy aliens have had the same space ships since the first recordings, companies like ford today are desperate to change their vehicles designs this says something about UFO designs, they're so silver, no stickers or logos and look at the first reports a lot are the same as todays.
 
I always hoped there was something to the UFO-phenomena but they lost me when they started talking about multiple UFO crashes. What happened, they run out of gas or something? How incompetent are these ETs?

And all these videos... There's never a smoking gun, always the clear possibility of it being a bird, balloon, sensor artifact or CGI.

There's something to the Tom Delong one because when a high level military official was asked if any of his other pilots had witnessed something similar he said about 70 of them had. That's crazy.
 
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There's something to the Tom Delong one because when a high level military official was asked if any of his other pilots had witnessed something similar he said about 70 of them had. That's crazy.
Hard to believe people still take Tom DeLonge seriously after that UFO video he showed Rogan

I timestamped it, but it's at 41:40

It's absolutely hilarious

 
Jeremy Corbell has been leaning into his savvy salesman act a little too convincingly these past few years

His theatrical build-up and a tendency to hype things feels more like marketing than journalism
Wild that the news has gone from " You're all crazy for believing this shit , I can't believe we have to report this" to
"Holy shit look at this"
 
I always hoped there was something to the UFO-phenomena but they lost me when they started talking about multiple UFO crashes. What happened, they run out of gas or something? How incompetent are these ETs?

And all these videos... There's never a smoking gun, always the clear possibility of it being a bird, balloon, sensor artifact or CGI.


Trying to make a point out of projection of what an alien tech would look like or how it would work is nonsense.

The movement of the objects don't match birds or balloons, whatever they are.

Science shouldn't rush answers when the only right thing to say with the current evidence is "we don't know".
 
Wild that the news has gone from " You're all crazy for believing this shit , I can't believe we have to report this" to
"Holy shit look at this"
Yeah, the media flip is insane. We went from "haha tinfoil hats" to "wait... what if they're right?" real fast

Traditional institutions have lost a lot of trust, so when someone like Corbell comes in with dramatic flair and a "what they don't want you to see" energy, it certainly scratches an itch

I love it, but my enthusiasm instantly deflates when they start the report by showing what I believe are already debunked videos
 
Yeah, the media flip is insane. We went from "haha tinfoil hats" to "wait... what if they're right?" real fast

Traditional institutions have lost a lot of trust, so when someone like Corbell comes in with dramatic flair and a "what they don't want you to see" energy, it certainly scratches an itch

I love it, but my enthusiasm instantly deflates when they start the report by showing what I believe are already debunked videos
If places like the BBC take a more positive view of this subject it's definitely worth noting as they are public funded they cannot be too sensational and they have to be impartial etc. so if they are changing how they report on this subject that starts to make me think.
 
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Jeremy Corbell has been leaning into his savvy salesman act a little too convincingly these past few years

His theatrical build-up and a tendency to hype things feels more like marketing than journalism

It is what is is HRK. He's just the middle man by now it seems, smh. I doubt he's a plant. He's not someone who just jumped on the whole UFO thing..he's been around the "scene". If not for him or Tom (Tom DeLonge), a lot of this sht wouldn't have been shown let alone in the public spotlight. I think he's doing a good job for what's it's worth. Notice the safe in the background (and the knife/dagger on the right side of it) ...I wonder what's in there? 👀
 
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Hard to believe people still take Tom DeLonge seriously after that UFO video he showed Rogan

I timestamped it, but it's at 41:40

It's absolutely hilarious



I didn't watch the Tom Delong Joe Rogan video but the military officer I'm talking about was questioned by Congress regarding the video. It's very real and what happened in the video wasn't an isolated incident. Like 70 of his pilots witnessed a similar occurrence. You can't ignore that. It's not a smudge on the camera or a weather balloon...
 
I didn't watch the Tom Delong Joe Rogan video but the military officer I'm talking about was questioned by Congress regarding the video. It's very real and what happened in the video wasn't an isolated incident. Like 70 of his pilots witnessed a similar occurrence. You can't ignore that. It's not a smudge on the camera or a weather balloon...
Congressional hearings aren't lie detectors. People testify under oath all the time with stories that can't be verified or that are based on misinterpretations, hearsay, or flat-out exaggeration. Just because someone wears a uniform doesn't mean every word is gospel truth

If witness accounts were 100% reliable, we should be seeing flying orbs, abductions, and little grey dudes on the daily

People "witness" all kinds of wild things. Gosts, demons, cryptids, you name it. That doesn't mean they're real. Human perception is flawed, memories are malleable, and the mind fills in blanks when it encounters the unfamiliar
 
Congressional hearings aren't lie detectors. People testify under oath all the time with stories that can't be verified or that are based on misinterpretations, hearsay, or flat-out exaggeration. Just because someone wears a uniform doesn't mean every word is gospel truth

If witness accounts were 100% reliable, we should be seeing flying orbs, abductions, and little grey dudes on the daily

People "witness" all kinds of wild things. Gosts, demons, cryptids, you name it. That doesn't mean they're real. Human perception is flawed, memories are malleable, and the mind fills in blanks when it encounters the unfamiliar
Something else the mind does is it protects people from feelings of fear, uncomfortableness and uncertainty when faced with something they don't understand by trying to explain and or discredit/dismiss those things.
 
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