PigSpeakers
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Sometimes life is hard.
LOL love this post
But seriously why are people saying "well men have it hard too!" that goes without saying and is dismissive to the issue being presented.
It's very tiring to see so many hot women threads on here. From hottest news anchor to hot redheads just this week. The Christina, Lindsay and gaga weight gain/looking ragged threads are pretty awful. Rarely is there a thread like that for a male star on here. Hell, there was a Jessica Simpson is fat thread while she was pregnant and people were teasing her for not losing the weight immediately. Again, I know it partially has to do with my own issues, but reading comments on those threads always make me take a break from gaf.
I know this may appear like a pity party post, but it's something I've been talking about with my boyfriend and reading some of the posts on here was so disheartening.
Eat right and lift heavy things for 30 minutes, 3 days a week. Bam, nice physique
None of this this is in any way true for men.
As someone mentioned above when was the last time you saw a fat women have a prominent role in a major movie? But it happens all the time for men.
Dove "fat" model ads are sadly not that much closer to the average woman. Truly fat people are more often than not ugly, and there is unfortunately a lot of fat people out there.
Nah, it will just be illegal to be an asshole.
With boys, it's more commonly "tough" enough, "athletic" or "strong." But, yeah, it doesn't really matter - teen years are rough on everybody.
The media feeds and exploits image insecurities in both genders. But maybe guys aren't as sensitive to it because (in general) women don't place as much importance on looks when it comes to dating.
Men tend to be judged more on height, however.
lol that reminds me of all the dating site profiles of 5'0 girls saying you must be 6'0 or taller to message them.
More often than not, genuinely fat men are the butt of the joke in movies and TV shows. They get roles because people like laughing at them, not because they find them physically attractive.
And how about an overweight woman in popular music?
You see a lot of "fat" guys in movies and TV shows with leading roles and such. Very rarely is that being the case for "fat" women.
This is from last week I believe:
"Eight-pack abs: Did this man have the best body in history?"
This isn't meant as an attack, I'm asking the following out of curiosity. Do you actively work out or try to work on those things you don't like about your body? Or is it something that couldn't be fixed no matter how much work you put into it?
On a side note: I was dealing with my sculpture professor for a long time. He was a real jerk to me, during our critiques he would ask why I wasn't a lesbian. I don't know if this was due to my pieces being about gender identity or my short hair always being up. He was never helpful, never really assisted me because he felt that I was "introspective". My last semester, I started wearing my hair down and I glasses. Suddenly, he was shocked everyday, commenting on my "hot hair" and how I had a "classic actress" look. Only Then did he become helpful. He always liked my work, but it really disgusted me that he would treat me so different just based on how I looked. I regret not getting him fired, but the art department here is so small, I was afraid I wouldn't be able to get a letter of recommendation for grad school.
What a prick that guy is.
Turning 26 in two weeks and that's exactly how I feelI'm 25 and I still feel like this. I'm trying to work through it in therapy, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to get to a place of acceptance with how I look. I feel like if I can look in the mirror and not want to punch myself or cry, I'll be fine. :/
I'm smart, I'm kind, I'm a decent person. But I can't stand the way I look and I'm just not good enough. :/ That's where I am right now.
You see a lot of "fat" guys in movies and TV shows with leading roles and such. Very rarely is that the case for "fat" women.
He always liked my work, but it really disgusted me that he would treat me so different just based on how I looked.
My original point was that I think there's a lot more to the issue than media. The media messages about physical appearance clearly aren't having the same effects on every individual, even though they're comparable across gender lines.
Whether the media is doing a greater disservice to one gender than the other is a whole other can of worms.
LOL love this post
But seriously why are people saying "well men have it hard too!" that goes without saying and is dismissive to the issue being presented.
What a piece of shit.On a side note: I was dealing with my sculpture professor for a long time. He was a real jerk to me, during our critiques he would ask why I wasn't a lesbian. I don't know if this was due to my pieces being about gender identity or my short hair always being up. He was never helpful, never really assisted me because he felt that I was "introspective". My last semester, I started wearing my hair down and I glasses. Suddenly, he was shocked everyday, commenting on my "hot hair" and how I had a "classic actress" look. Only Then did he become helpful. He always liked my work, but it really disgusted me that he would treat me so different just based on how I looked. I regret not getting him fired, but the art department here is so small, I was afraid I wouldn't be able to get a letter of recommendation for grad school.
At least not everyone is being pushed to go under the knife yet, although i do wonder if it's inevitable that rest of the world would eventually catch up with K pop and s korea when it comes to pressure of having to have plastic surgery.
I'll agree the media isn't the sole cause of this. Eating disorders existed before media. Eating disorders have a genetic and neurological link too. If we removed media, the issues wouldn't go away.
However, it's the one factor we can control on the outside if every woman with body-image issues doesn't already have a therapist. The media can be seen as a negative reinforcer for body size overestimation that can feed the woman's lack of self-esteem/personality type as confirmation bias. They need to tout physically healthy ideals of beauty rather than anorexic models being the norm.
If they're not letting go of super thin models, then at least like drinking leave a disclaimer to take dieting into moderation. They shouldn't glamorise celebrities losing weight and present a greater variety of body shapes or sizes.
I heard about this from my sister who's a huge k-pop/japanese fan. Have there been articles showing evidence of how bad it is over there?
Yep in videogames as well, though they just need to get rid of fat characters in general.
I heard about this from my sister who's a huge k-pop/japanese fan. Have there been articles showing evidence of how bad it is over there?
Turning 26 in two weeks and that's exactly how I feel
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Being fat can be useful for a narative, or character development. Or even to just took funny, like doughnut drake. There's no harm in it. The same as ugliness.
I'm 25 and I still feel like this. I'm trying to work through it in therapy, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to get to a place of acceptance with how I look. I feel like if I can look in the mirror and not want to punch myself or cry, I'll be fine. :/
I'm smart, I'm kind, I'm a decent person. But I can't stand the way I look and I'm just not good enough. :/ That's where I am right now.
Being fat or ugly doesn't necessarily stop the portrayal of a male character from being either positive or serious. With female characters, that's rarely the case.
I was just about to say that everyone on GAF seems to think she's kinda hot. It's a start.I remember seeing a picture of you in one of these threads. You are attractive
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Being fat can be useful for a narative, or character development. Or even to just look funny, like doughnut drake. There's no harm in it. The same as ugliness.
Yep. Hopefully someday I can not hate myself. I hope you can learn to like yourself. Are you looking into any kind of therapy or anything?
That's not a reason to get rid of fat characters altogether.
With boys, it's more commonly "tough" enough, "athletic" or "strong." But, yeah, it doesn't really matter - teen years are rough on everybody.
I'm drawing a blank on bigger women with prominent roles in video games... Even in fighters with several women, all that come to mind are attractive girls in great shape.
I'm drawing a blank on bigger women with prominent roles in video games... Even in fighters with several women, all that come to mind are attractive girls in great shape.
Ive always been really bad at therapy. I often lie for fear of getting committed, due to having suicidal thoughts. I'm from a small town in Louisiana and have had a few friends committed just for saying they were having suicidal thoughts. I'd like to eventually try therapy again, at the moment I'm not financially able to, but hopefully in a few months I can. Hopefully we can both get better I'm hoping wih age it'll happen, but just the though of getting old terrifies me. The thought of wrinkles! :[
Hm...that's kind of bad. :< Don't have suicidal thoughts!
Good luck. Haha, I've given up on "getting older" will make it better. I have to actually do something about it. Whether I can is the question.
Wrinkles, no :<
Serious answer? I actually don't think it goes without saying. Men's issues don't get as much attention in some cases., I think guys bring it up because they want to remind people that those issues do exist. It's wildly inappropriate to toss it into a conversation willy-nilly but there are times where it can be appropriate.
It's in a way, the other side of a double-edged sword. Men get more perks and benefits in the way we conduct society currently but their issues aren't as discussed at times. For example, prostate cancer awareness is nowhere near breast cancer awareness.
Of course, that doesn't have as much bearing on this thread. The article was on women so.
Yeah see what you mean but it just seemed wrong to force it into a discussion about women.
And, I so feel you on the wrinkles. They're considered a plus for guys (more experienced, more wise looking), but such a negative for women. I keep buying new lotions hoping to head them off at the pass.
For eye wrinkles, I get vitamin e gel tablets, poke a hole in it and use the liquid on my eyes nightly. Saves you a ton of money. Has to be good quality vitamin e tablets. A little goes a long way though. 1 pill usually lasts me a week or two.Being proactive about stuff related to your body will help a lot. Just getting to the gym and knowing you're working towards something is such a mental uplift. It's definitely tough when it feels like you're constantly being judged primarily through your looks, though. :/
And, I so feel you on the wrinkles. They're considered a plus for guys (more experienced, more wise looking), but such a negative for women. I keep buying new lotions hoping to head them off at the pass.
Always happens. Even when threads are made about men's issues they are largely ignored. Instead you get the derails in these.
Or how about this crap being fostered on young girls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR742do-Jtk
Who the hell thinks up this shit?
Not if your black we get all the flack . I don't even think this is actually true anymore outside of entertainment media.
For eye wrinkles, I get vitamin e gel tablets, poke a hole in it and use the liquid on my yes nightly. Saves you a ton of money. Has to be good quality vitamin e tablets. A little goes a long way though. 1 pill usually lasts me a week or two.
The problem I face is I obsess when in working on something. :/ trying to work on not doing that myself
Or how about this crap being fostered on young girls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR742do-Jtk
Who the hell thinks up this shit?