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UK bans FOX HUNTING???

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Ripclawe

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You Ban the double deckers, you ban hunting, whats next? Banning Fish and chips??? Damn wussies!


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http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?file=539002.html

ONDON, Sept. 15 — After a day of rowdy demonstrations that saw five protesters storm the chamber at the House of Commons, legislators voted today to outlaw the centuries-old sport of fox hunting with hounds.

The vote, 356 to 166, followed an emotional debate between supporters of the ban, who called fox hunting barbaric, elitist and hopelessly outmoded, and opponents, who accused the government of intruding on people's civil liberties and trampling on their rural way of life.




Supporters said they would force the bill through the House of Lords, which has fiercely opposed any attempt at curbing fox hunting, by invoking a rarely-used law called the 1949 Parliament Act. The act allows for bills to become law in the event of a deadlock.

"Fox hunting is unacceptable in 21st-century modern Britain," said a Labor Party Commons member, Claire Ward. "What they are doing is wrong, and we need to stand against it."
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distantmantra

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While I was going to Best Buy on my lunch break, I heard them mention on NPR that Fox Hunters had stormed the British Parliament, crazy.
 
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Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Having not followed this at all, I'll voice my uneducated opinion.

I support the fox hunting ban, if the fox is considered a pest, destroy it in a more humane way than dogs tearing it apart.

It's had a lot of news time over here though. Mainly because the protest became violent. Amusing to hear someone claim it's exactly like if they banned football. Yeah, that's the same.
 
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Firest0rm

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If your not gonna eat it then don't kill it. Unless its trying to kill you :p, or if its a misquito, or if its so ugly that it discomforts you and prevents you from sleeping. Also if its some insect preventing you from sleeping, then kill it. Even if it does not intend to harm you.
 
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SlickWilly223

Time ta STEP IT UP
What are the concepts of fox hunting? You just train a dog to hunt down foxes and have them rip the foxes to shreads or something?

I find hunting fun. I'm sure a lot of people here consider it barbaric but whateva, it's a good time had by all. Even if you don't bag anything that night.

EDIT: Is it true that Britains can't own private firearms?
 
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DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Mama Smurf said:
Huh, wonder what it is then. It won't show in Opera or IE for me.
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Perhaps due to its storage on opa-ages.com, you might need to register/login to that forum to be able to access the uploaded material. I can't see it either. If solrac is a member over there, that might just explain his being able to see it.
 
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xsarien

daedsiluap
Ripclawe said:
You Ban the double deckers, you ban hunting, whats next? Banning Fish and chips??? Damn wussies!
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Why am I not surprised that this is your stance on the issue? Hunting animals for sport is despicable, archaic, and - to be perfectly blunt - cruel. I'm sure these people will find much more productive ways to spend their time, that, or find a target that can fight back.
 
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SpoonyBard

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Wow, when did they ban double deckers? And why?


edit: "Never" seems to be the right anwer. It was just a rumour a few years back, or something...
 
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Ripclawe

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SpoonyBard said:
Wow, when did they ban double deckers? And why?


edit: "Never" seems to be the right anwer. It was just a rumour a few years back, or something...
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4316040/

It's as recognizable as St. Paul's Cathedral and as British as cod and chips, but London's iconic red Routemaster bus is reaching the end of the road.

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The city's transport authority, which has been quietly taking the old buses out of circulation for months, says Routemasters will be withdrawn from half of their remaining routes by the end of the year, and almost all will be gone by 2005.
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Error Macro

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Is there any reason to go to England anymore? Jeez.

I heard they banned the Spice Girls as well. WTF.















*I think hunting animals is horrible though. I think it should be outlawed everywhere. Yes, I'm a Republican.
 
Dice

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
It is my view that hunting animals is ok if it is for food. That is the point of hunting, as all of nature and the bible shows. If you are just killing things to kill them, you are being a jerk.
 
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Error Macro

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It might be somewhat more acceptable if you are hunting for food based out of necessity, however you can't produce a law like that. It would be impossible to discriminate between "sport" and food. It would have to be made illegal across the board.
 
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SFA_AOK

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Ripclawe said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4316040/

It's as recognizable as St. Paul's Cathedral and as British as cod and chips, but London's iconic red Routemaster bus is reaching the end of the road.

advertisement

The city's transport authority, which has been quietly taking the old buses out of circulation for months, says Routemasters will be withdrawn from half of their remaining routes by the end of the year, and almost all will be gone by 2005.
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A RouteMaster is a double decker, a double decker is not necessarily a RouteMaster.

Even the use of the word "ban" was incorrect.
 
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ManDudeChild

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Dice said:
It is my view that hunting animals is ok if it is for food. That is the point of hunting, as all of nature and the bible shows. If you are just killing things to kill them, you are being a jerk.
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While I'm not a fan of the bible, I totally agree that hunting should only be done for food. I'd love to see how those asshole hunters would like it if they were unarmed and being hunted for sport.
 
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pestul

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I wish groups in North America would storm the government (they actually got inside the goddamn parliment!) like that.. shows balls. Course.. security here would probably open fire on a crowd like that. :p
 
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Hamfam

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Error Macro said:
It might be somewhat more acceptable if you are hunting for food based out of necessity, however you can't produce a law like that. It would be impossible to discriminate between "sport" and food. It would have to be made illegal across the board.
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I know a law, if you get caught, the police force you to sit down and eat the fox. That'll show 'em.
 
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Ollie Pooch

In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
just saw footage of the pro-fox-hunting demonstrators complaining about copping (haha) a bashing from the police. fucking hypocrites - quick! set our pack of dogs onto that fox
 
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Che

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Dice said:
It is my view that hunting animals is ok if it is for food. That is the point of hunting, as all of nature and the bible shows. If you are just killing things to kill them, you are being a jerk.
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Let me extend that a bit. Hunting animals is ok if it is for food, and only if you need that food to survive. Otherwise it's not different than hunting for sports.

And xsarien it was so expected by me that I didn't even mention it...
 
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Deg

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BTW the old double deckers arent being banned but they are hopelessly out of date. Its much better to bring the new buses in everyway.
 
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teiresias

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Just because they take a bus out of use it's considered "banned"?? What kind of world do you live in? I suppose the old Atari systems are "banned" because they've stopped producing them, or model-1960 cars are "banned" because no factory is currently churning them out.
 
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Ambience

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They should ban bull fighting aswell. It's not much of a fight, just a fucking idiot with a sword and cape (LOL) stabbing a bull.
 
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AeroGod

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You people against hunting are either hilariously misinformed and/or retarded. OMFG I LOVE ANIMALS PLZ DONT KILL THEM KILLING IS WRONG!!! Hunting is a sport yes, but even moreso states use it as regulator of the animal population that at times can get wayyyy too high. Thats why they have hunting season. You can only hunt animals in certain seasons when their population is the highest. If surveys prove that numbers are minimal(almost never for things like deer and some birds because they fuck like crazy) then the season will be either cancelled or resticted to certain areas. Other things like Moose, some types of birds, and some more rare animals though only come around once in a while in certain areas and its outlawed and illegal most of the time. Instead of the state hiring people to control the animal population and lose alot of money. They let civilians do it on regulated basis "disguised" as a sport, and they make money off of taxes from hunting equipment and licenses. Sounds good to me, states make money off of things they need to get done.

Hunting is also a billion dollar industry. Lots of money being made and lots of jobs for Americans right? Thats what American needs and thats why were all mad at Bush right? No jobs?

Thats the problem with most of these animal rights people. They dont understand shit. They hate hunting because its killing animals, but they dont know the reasoning behind it. People just dont go out and kill animals like its something to do whenever you want. Its regulated by the government and is required in most areas for a normal life. But hey whatever, lets ban hunting becasue you want to. Have fun driving on the freeway and trying not to hit deer or having your backyard invaded by animals. THats the fact. Maybe if you live in a more city type of environment or certain parts of the USA you wouldnt know this, but the closer you get to large wooded areas the more you see why this is needed. Animlas arnt like humans. THey keep fucking and fucking untill their popualtion is overloaded and they start invading the lives of humans, and humans and our well being are more important then some stupid animals.

As for this Fox thing. Whatever. If the Fox population isnt high I wouldnt see why this is needed. Its England though, they run on a different system then us. I honestly dont care.
 
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Lucky Forward

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The Bible says God is OK with fox hunting...

Song of Solomon 2:15 "Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes."
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In fact, it's fun to catch them and set them on fire...

Judges 15: 4-5 "And Samson went and caught three hundred foxes, and took firebrands, and turned tail to tail, and put a firebrand in the midst between two tails. And when he had set the brands on fire, he let them go into the standing corn of the Philistines, and burnt up both the shocks, and also the standing corn, with the vineyards and olives."
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NWO

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AeroGod said:
You people against hunting are either hilariously misinformed and/or retarded. OMFG I LOVE ANIMALS PLZ DONT KILL THEM KILLING IS WRONG!!! Hunting is a sport yes, but even moreso states use it as regulator of the animal population that at times can get wayyyy too high. Thats why they have hunting season. You can only hunt animals in certain seasons when their population is the highest. If surveys prove that numbers are minimal(almost never for things like deer and some birds because they fuck like crazy) then the season will be either cancelled or resticted to certain areas. Other things like Moose, some types of birds, and some more rare animals though only come around once in a while in certain areas and its outlawed and illegal most of the time. Instead of the state hiring people to control the animal population and lose alot of money. They let civilians do it on regulated basis "disguised" as a sport, and they make money off of taxes from hunting equipment and licenses. Sounds good to me, states make money off of things they need to get done.

Hunting is also a billion dollar industry. Lots of money being made and lots of jobs for Americans right? Thats what American needs and thats why were all mad at Bush right? No jobs?

Thats the problem with most of these animal rights people. They dont understand shit. They hate hunting because its killing animals, but they dont know the reasoning behind it. People just dont go out and kill animals like its something to do whenever you want. Its regulated by the government and is required in most areas for a normal life. But hey whatever, lets ban hunting becasue you want to. Have fun driving on the freeway and trying not to hit deer or having your backyard invaded by animals. THats the fact. Maybe if you live in a more city type of environment or certain parts of the USA you wouldnt know this, but the closer you get to large wooded areas the more you see why this is needed. Animlas arnt like humans. THey keep fucking and fucking untill their popualtion is overloaded and they start invading the lives of humans, and humans and our well being are more important then some stupid animals.

As for this Fox thing. Whatever. If the Fox population isnt high I wouldnt see why this is needed. Its England though, they run on a different system then us. I honestly dont care.
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Wow....just wow there are so many things wrong with this. I really hope you were trying to be funny or something.
 
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BigGreenMat

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I see nothing wrong in hunting prey items occasionally as was stated when there is bountiful amounts (read: deer population in the US), but hunting rarer animals/ predators in general is just not appropriate. Predators populations are generally small and very nomadic the loss of a few key animals can lead to population isolation and other problems. That said I can see how many people take their view of human rights and associate them with animals and thus since we don't hunt people in regions where they have large populations (say India or China or heck just about anyplace) then it is wrong to hunt animals irregardless of population. I personally am of the opinion that we need to apply some of our ideas on animal control on people and lower the booming population.
 
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