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[UK] 'Unfair' to call parents into school to change nappies (diapers)

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Expecting teachers to wipe your third-grader's ass is just dumb.
Even dumber.

Lets say the trend grows and there's 10 kids that need asswiping at lunch time. A teacher is suppose to act like a butt wiping crossing guard for squirrelly kids for half an hour while the rest of the kids have to wait for class to resume?
 

Hookshot

Member
Talking of Lunch time, in some regions the kids on free school meals will have vouchers provided for meals during school holidays. They are provided for all year round and yet the parents still fail them
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Talking of Lunch time, in some regions the kids on free school meals will have vouchers provided for meals during school holidays. They are provided for all year round and yet the parents still fail them
Grew up in a suburban part of town that was just normal public schools. No rich ivy walls, a mix of kids walking or bussing in from mostly just normal homes. Some came from nicer neighbourhoods, and some from lower income apartments or low budget rental townhouse complexes.

All 3 schools I went to (elementary, middle and high) had zero free food. Bring your own grub. At best, high school had a small kitchen where you could buy pizza slices or teachers get a coffee. And a pop vending machine. If you wanted it you had to buy it. No real meals like you see on TV or movies with lunchlady Doris spooning full meals onto trays like an assembly line. But maybe it's common in US schools. Elementary and middle schools were basically the same. You could buy small cups of juice or these oddly giant ass cookies for like 35 or 50 cents. Thats it.

We all turned out fine. The kids from the poorer housing complexes figured out how to bring their own lunch. So it cant be that hard why modern day numbnut families cant do the same.
 
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Woggleman

Member
By the time a kid goes to school they should be potty trained. Damn near by the time I was able to walk I knew how to use a toilet.
 

ReBurn

Gold Member
Even dumber.

Lets say the trend grows and there's 10 kids that need asswiping at lunch time. A teacher is suppose to act like a butt wiping crossing guard for squirrelly kids for half an hour while the rest of the kids have to wait for class to resume?
At that point schools are going to have to hire dedicated butt wipers who do nothing but change diapers all day. Instead of sending kids to the nurse they'll send them to the butt wiper.
 

ResurrectedContrarian

Suffers with mild autism
More children spend longer in child-care settings, often cared for by early years workers who do not have skills nor experience to support toilet training
A survey conducted in 2018 showed that 72% of eligible 2 year olds and 92% of 3 year olds in England benefited from funded early education, in nurseries, pre-schools and with childminders. Our survey of early years practitioners showed that 70% of staff had received no training in how to potty train and only 53% of respondents said there was a potty training policy in place at their setting.
Paying outside parties to care for young children is inherently unworkable and all our structuring of social norms should be built around keeping mothers at home. There is no decent world where childcare is outsourced and at-home motherhood is reduced to an option.
 

Dr.Guru of Peru

played the long game
Grew up in a suburban part of town that was just normal public schools. No rich ivy walls, a mix of kids walking or bussing in from mostly just normal homes. Some came from nicer neighbourhoods, and some from lower income apartments or low budget rental townhouse complexes.

All 3 schools I went to (elementary, middle and high) had zero free food. Bring your own grub. At best, high school had a small kitchen where you could buy pizza slices or teachers get a coffee. And a pop vending machine. If you wanted it you had to buy it. No real meals like you see on TV or movies with lunchlady Doris spooning full meals onto trays like an assembly line. But maybe it's common in US schools. Elementary and middle schools were basically the same. You could buy small cups of juice or these oddly giant ass cookies for like 35 or 50 cents. Thats it.

We all turned out fine. The kids from the poorer housing complexes figured out how to bring their own lunch. So it cant be that hard why modern day numbnut families cant do the same.
50 years from now SonofStreetsofBeige will be making the exact same post.
 

Jenov

Member
Eric, a children's bowel and bladder charity, said it was concerned parents were being "shamed" for not having toilet trained their children.

Uh, outside of medical exceptions, parents should be shamed for not having their 4+ year olds toilet trained and sent to school. Accidents can happen with little kids, but not being trained going past 5yo is really terrible.
 

Dr.Morris79

Gold Member
Normally I'm of the mind of 'Yeah, that is so wrong..'

But, and it's a big Butt

Most schools now are taking in vast amounts of kids with 'problems'. Autism is through the roof and most places are trying to mix kids with severe problems with normally functioning kids

It just doesn't work, period.

And that's even before you get the mums that weirdly want their kids to have 'problems'. For benefits, money or one upmanship, who knows

Basically, we're fucked as a society if we dont start dealing with core issues again..

And this is before you get to secondary school. That's even MORE whack.
 

cormack12

Gold Member
And now expecting teachers to supervise kids brushing their teeth? Wtf, wake up parents. Look after your kids


But the National Association of Head Teachers (NAHT) union said caution was needed to avoid shifting "what is ultimately a parental responsibility on to the burden on schools".

Paul Whiteman, of the NAHT, agreed there was a crisis in children's dental health and the government was right to prioritise it.

"However, we cannot keep loading increasing expectations on schools," he said.
 

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
Britain and bad teeth has been a think for a while, but if you have a generation of parents that are so lazy they refuse to practice basic hygiene you have some severe problems.
 

Dr.Morris79

Gold Member
Britain and bad teeth has been a think for a while, but if you have a generation of parents that are so lazy they refuse to practice basic hygiene you have some severe problems.
We have a severe shortage of dentists here in the UK. We've been royally screwed over in that regard.

I have to drive my kid 300 miles just to get his braces sorted by his orthodontist every couple of months.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
We have a severe shortage of dentists here in the UK. We've been royally screwed over in that regard.

I have to drive my kid 300 miles just to get his braces sorted by his orthodontist every couple of months.
Jesus really? My dentist (private) is 5mins up the road and the wee lad is 5mins down the road... Fuck 300miles!? That's practically halfway to Australia m8
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
Britain and bad teeth has been a think for a while, but if you have a generation of parents that are so lazy they refuse to practice basic hygiene you have some severe problems.
I have terrible teeth, from the day my kids could comprehend I constantly reminded them about the state of my teeth because I never cleaned them as a kid and made sure they done it morning and evening and when they got back from their granny ffs I'm now paying to correct mine and I don't want that for my kids who funnily enough have great white teeth the lucky fuckers
 

LordOfChaos

Member
Yeah, what's unfair is expecting low wage teachers to do this, you can't send someone with no medical conditions into primary school having taught them 0 language or social skills can you, toilet training by then is the bare minimum parenting you can have done

And these are THIRD graders?!
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Crazy. Amazing how growing up every kid and parent could figure out how to wipe their ass and brush their teeth. But pretty hilarious.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Yeah, what's unfair is expecting low wage teachers to do this, you can't send someone with no medical conditions into primary school having taught them 0 language or social skills can you, toilet training by then is the bare minimum parenting you can have done

And these are THIRD graders?!
Not really surprised at some of this.

I think just about everyone gets the impression over the decades parents treat teachers like daycare centres. Should a teacher help super young kids do basic things, sure. But when you got older elemetary school kids still not knowing how to go to the bathroom or know how to brush their teeth, it gets to a point the teachers are being pressured to be babysitters and nannies than teaching academic content.

Modern day parents are just lazy asses. But funny how they have all the time in the world to binge watch Netflix.

Weird. But that's the world we live in.
 
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Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable
We have a severe shortage of dentists here in the UK. We've been royally screwed over in that regard.

I have to drive my kid 300 miles just to get his braces sorted by his orthodontist every couple of months.

That seems crazy, is it some kind of niche specialist? It's less than 300 miles to drive from Birmingham to Edinburgh!
 

808mate

Member
In some parts of the UK, almost half of the population of kids aged 5 years or under have some form of tooth decay.

It's shameful.
 

AgatonSax

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AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
We have a severe shortage of dentists here in the UK. We've been royally screwed over in that regard.

I have to drive my kid 300 miles just to get his braces sorted by his orthodontist every couple of months.
Why do you think that is? Regulation? NHS doesn’t make it worth the time and effort? Lack of demand.

I have probably a hundred dental offices and multiple specialist for teeth where I live. One of my good friends she is an endodontist. Just does root canals. And she just built a million dollar lake home off of root canals.
 

Dr.Morris79

Gold Member
Jesus really? My dentist (private) is 5mins up the road and the wee lad is 5mins down the road... Fuck 300miles!? That's practically halfway to Australia m8
That seems crazy, is it some kind of niche specialist? It's less than 300 miles to drive from Birmingham to Edinburgh!
Aye Bath to past NE London, 150 miles, each way :messenger_neutral:

The orthodontist, and surgery, will not hand over authority to another NHS dentist in Bath and said we'd need to go private. Thing Is, he'd already had the braces before he moved and going private just after moving is crazy spending..

His orthodontist, mind you, works one week in the UK and one week in Portugal. The last time I took him in January, we'd got to the practice but she had to leave early to catch her plane to Portugal... never told me. Waste of time that was

Fuck this place.
 
We have a severe shortage of dentists here in the UK. We've been royally screwed over in that regard.

I have to drive my kid 300 miles just to get his braces sorted by his orthodontist every couple of months.
Well yeah you probably have to get through the Chunnel all the way to France, figure out how to drive on the right side of the road and then barter for basic dental services innit?
 

nkarafo

Member
WHAT? HOW?

Just for the sake of curiosity, I asked my mum and she told me she started potty training me when I was around 1 to 1 1/2 years old. How are you NOT potty training your kid who is 7 or 8?!

This should be child neglect? Because what are you doing to raise your child? It's YOUR responsibility as a parent to teach them these things.
I would think that by the age of 8 kids can figure this out on their own?

I mean it's shitty parenting for sure but i don't think i have ever heard about kids that age not being able to do such a basic task, unless there's some medical issue or handicap.


I can almost guarantee this is at least partially due to excess screen time. And likely tablets.

My oldest son turned 4 a couple months ago and despite potty training him for a YEAR AND A HALF, he still occasionally has minor pee accidents when we let him watch Disney+ or YouTube. If he really likes what he's watching, he basically loses all sense of self or just can't pull himself away from the screen to go to the potty. But if he's just playing with toys or whatever, he takes himself to the bathroom when he needs to go without us having to ask him if he needs to go.

So I think parents are trying to potty train, but their kids get so much screen time (and they likely have tablets, which our son DOES NOT) that they have frequent accidents at home, so the parents just kinda give up. Then they end up school-aged and are still somewhat or completely incontinent because their parents put them back in diapers because they're tired of dealing with the mess.
Is this a thing?

Maybe i'm old but i refuse to accept this is a real thing.

Like, i know modern technology has become a scourge to human society but i would never think it can cause such a regression.
 
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