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[Majine]

Although not as tough as the US wanted, they are still being described as the toughest yet.

The United Nations Security Council unanimously adopted a US-drafted resolution to impose new sanctions on North Korea on Monday --- a move that comes just one week after the rogue nation carried out its sixth and largest nuclear test.

The resolution is designed to accomplish six major goals: cap North Korea's oil imports, ban textile exports, end additional overseas laborer contracts, suppress smuggling efforts, stop joint ventures with other nations and sanction designated North Korean government entities, according to a US official familiar with negotiations.

On Monday, the US circulated a draft resolution that called for a full ban on exports of oil to North Korea and an asset freeze on leader Kim Jong Un, the Worker's Party and the government of North Korea.
But later in the day, the US put forward another draft that removed the full oil embargo, asset freeze, travel ban for Kim and softened the language on foreign workers and other issues.
Russia and China both have veto power as permanent members of the Security Council and had expressed skepticism over the initial sanctions proposal.
The Reuters news agency reported Monday that the sanctions had been softened to appease China and Russia, citing diplomats.
Ahead of the vote, North Korea warned the United States that it would pay a "due price" if harsh sanctions were passed by the Security Council.
North Korea's Foreign Ministry said in a statement published on state media that if the US "does rig up the illegal and unlawful 'resolution,'" it would respond in kind.
"The forthcoming measures to be taken by the DPRK will cause the US the greatest pain and suffering it had ever gone through in its entire history."

 

[WaterAstro]

I would have just banned everything.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Although not as tough as the US wanted, they are still being described as the toughest yet.

any additional sanctions without the revocation of previous sanctions have to be "the toughest yet"

But anyways, NK is gonna test a missile and we'll be back here next month!

NK is gonna keep testing until it feels comfortable with it deterrence abilities then will negotiate a "freeze"

 

[WaterAstro]

any additional sanctions without the revocation of previous sanctions have to be "the toughest yet"

But anyways, NK is gonna test a missile and we'll be back here next month!

NK is gonna keep testing until it feels comfortable with it deterrence abilities then will negotiate a "freeze"

The problem is if NK is working with another country

Spoiler

Russia

illegally. Full sanctions won't be completely useful.

If China seriously does it, then it would be a big hit.

 

[CazTGG]

Doesn't North Korea have a loophole to get around these sanctions?

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

Sanction china for giving them oil.

 

[cirrhosis]

These sanctions ain't gonna do squat. They'll keep doing these "tests". Once they get MIRV capability then they'll finally get what they want - more food and fuel and international recognition.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

The problem is if NK is working with another country

Spoiler

Russia

illegally. Full sanctions won't be completely useful.

If China seriously does it, then it would be a big hit.

Sanctions aren't going to bring them to the table. They will come to the table when their deterrence is to their liking

 

[NYCmetsfan]

These sanctions ain't gonna do squat. They'll keep doing these "tests". Once they get MIRV capability then they'll finally get what they want - more food and fuel and international recognition.

This is years ahead. I don't see them requiring this with their current strategic aims. They've clearly gone the route of having multiple road mobile solid fuel missiles for credible deterrence rather than doing something this fancy.

They also have thermonuclear warheads so they really don't need to worry too much about accuracy either.

Remember NK isn't preparing fighting to win a war against the US. Its preparing to if war breaks out, to prevent the US from invading and overthrowing the regime, this isn't the cold war US vs. USSR where NK actually thinks it can "beat" the US military.

 

[TaterTots]

They're about to talk about it on FOX news now. NK don't care about no sanctions.

 

[WaterAstro]

Sanctions aren't going to bring them to the table. They will come to the table when their deterrence is to their liking

If their economy crashes because of the sanctions, then they'll have no money to buy weapons or fund their military. They're not making nuclear weapons or any weapons out of thin air. Their black market costs a lot.

 

[slit]

any additional sanctions without the revocation of previous sanctions have to be "the toughest yet"

But anyways, NK is gonna test a missile and we'll be back here next month!

NK is gonna keep testing until it feels comfortable with it deterrence abilities then will negotiate a "freeze"

They'll try that but it won't work. Why would the U.S., Japan, and SK settle for a "freeze"? They'd have to bring in the dumbest negotiators on the planet.

 

[nephilimdj]

If their economy crashes because of the sanctions, then they'll have no money to buy weapons or fund their military. They're not making nuclear weapons or any weapons out of thin air. Their black market costs a lot.

Remember China and NK have a joint industrial zone in NK, like SK did.
Dont need a black market

 

[Grumplestiltskin]

Only tangentially related but I have this friend who is convinced that all the negative news about North Korea is South Korean and American manufactured propaganda and that the horrid living conditions of its people are all America's fault for levying sanctions against North Korea. He just posted a long ass rant about these sanctions on his social media saying that we were all just perpetuating these false narratives and further dooming innocent people to living lives of destitute poverty and despair. I'm not even sure how to respond especially since he seems ardently devoted to this conspiracy and I'm of the mind the sanctions are too weak to actually be effective in their goals. Crazy just how skewed otherwise perfectly rational reasonable people can be when it comes to conspiracies.

 

[andythinkpad]

The oil ban depends entirely on China. UN is just lip service.

 

[carlsojo]

Toothless as expected.

 

[Schattenjäger]

I would have just banned everything.

Need Russia and China to agree to that

 

[Earthbound64]

They'll try that but it won't work. Why would the U.S., Japan, and SK settle for a "freeze"? They'd have to bring in the dumbest negotiators on the planet.

Well, when you put it like that...

Toothless as expected.

--->

Need Russia and China to agree to that

 

[Regulus Tera]

Time for another missile test this weekend

 

[hirokazu]

Ahead of the vote, North Korea warned the United States that it would pay a "due price" if harsh sanctions were passed by the Security Council.
North Korea's Foreign Ministry said in a statement published on state media that if the US "does rig up the illegal and unlawful 'resolution,'" it would respond in kind.
"The forthcoming measures to be taken by the DPRK will cause the US the greatest pain and suffering it had ever gone through in its entire history."

LOL, how do they propose to respond in due kind? Sanction the non-existent trade with the US?

Their only bargaining chips are their weapons program and neighbouring countries not wanting war in the peninsula.