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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 7 - Sundays on HBO
- Thread starter Cornballer
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I wondered this, especially considering she must've been there for at least a week - and then part of her speech to the last of the Freys was that they hadn't killed all the Starks. No one chirped up that there's some up north. It could be that none of them knew. It's probably just because of wank writing.
bitbydeath
Member
Nobody likes the Freys, they're just a pawn to do dirty work.
JuanLatino
Member
theory:
Cersei will burn Elaria alive with wildfire like the madking did with Rickard Stark.
Jaimie will see that & realize that Cersei is Mad King 2.0
Cersei will burn Elaria alive with wildfire like the madking did with Rickard Stark.
Jaimie will see that & realize that Cersei is Mad King 2.0
Dusk Soldier
Member
Isn't that what pirates did back in they day though? Rammed into cargo ships so they couldn't escape, board & loot and then flee?
Not with a surprise attack. Usually the pirate ship was faster and they would spend all day catching up to run them down. The ocean is big, and there's nowhere to run to, so if they couldn't outrun the pirate they were boned.
Dusk Soldier
Member
Is it possible though that they didn't realize they were enemy ships?
They both seemed to have kraken sails, and it was late at night.
At this point, it's best to not think about plot holes. D&D have shown that they are lost without the source material.
I think that's the implication the show was trying to make. But how Euron sailed through hundreds of ships to locate the exact one he wanted to find -- whilst not alerting suspicion and getting a surprise ram on his enemy -- is beyond me.
He would have to have been sailing against the tide of Yara's ships, and Yara's ship (if she has half a brain) would be in the center of her armada so as not to be on the front lines of an ensuing battle.
Yes, it is entirely possible that the two most useless military forces in Westeros were incompetent enough not to realize that they were infiltrated by enemy ships who then rammed them in the middle of the night out at sea. There has been a lot of foreshadowing of this incompetence throughout the series. Yara running from the dogs, needing two Sand Snakes corning an unarmed boy in a room to kill him, all the fight scenes involving the Ironborn and the Sand Snakes throughout season 5. It was all there. This is what it has been leading up to.
Iron Born have generally less than half a brain, even Asha in the books who comes of way smarter than any of the others still has a lead from the front type of mentality
hendersonhank
Member
Yeah, of all the silly complaints... As soon as Tyrion fled King's Landing he became the worst character in the books.
Jon roughing up Littlefinger was ridiculous. Jon had JUST finished giving a speech about how they needed all the help they could get and had to take allies where they could find them. Littlefinger just saved his ass, his sister's ass, the entire North's ass. He has the biggest army sitting there at Winterfell with his sister. In fact he has the biggest army in Westeros other than maybe Dorne, since the Vale sat out all the fighting.
Jon has come back colder.
Cercei blowing up the Sept didn't tell him that?
Psychoward
Banned
Jamie's arc is so so fucked up. Between the raping happening, Edmure's rant not affecting him and the Sept not being his catalyst FINALLY, he's still just a bitch boy on the show.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Will Bronn save Bad Pussy informing her that what she needed all along was a Rotten Cock?
JuanLatino
Member
not enough for him to realize that he needs to stop & kill her :O
Ghostmaster
Member
My god that battle scene on the ship was horrendous, death by a thousand cuts, flashbacks to Catwoman there.
I mean Spartacus also had some cheap looking battles, but they were still vastly better than this.
I mean Spartacus also had some cheap looking battles, but they were still vastly better than this.
Dusk Soldier
Member
She is the princess of the the Iron Islands though. As an Iron Islander, it's definitely plausible that he would know where her ship would generally be placed in a fleet and how to tell it apart from other ironborn ships.
This guy is supposed to be the worlds best pirate; If anyone could pull off an operation like this it would be him for sure.
He also killed 2 sand snakes. That in itself definitely hand waves at least 4 plot holes.
On the boat that brought Olenna and the Snakes to him?
Admiral Woofington
Member
We complain enough about exposition, do you really think the Freys just go around
"well hello George"
Hello Fred"
"what a beautiful day this is, on the 100th moon since we killed the starks"
"now now remember, some live and took down the Boltons"
"yes, the bastard"
An argument could be made she kept to herself as much as possible as whatever character she was playing, only enough to set things into motion.
The Artisan
Member
Ned Stark wasn't above putting Carcetti in a chokehold either.
The Artisan
Member
Admiral Woofington
Member
So what you're saying is, Jon is already dead. RIP.
The Artisan
Member
heh. he was dead once, he can be dead again
maybe Goku watches game of thrones and just wished Jon Snow back to life after the season 5 finale lol. he'll just go and do it again if he dies
Where were those Dragonballs when I needed someone to wish Talisa back to life?
The Artisan
Member
ohhh man
out of all the television-breaking horrific deaths of this show, I think Talisa has to be #1. that is rock bottom and inhuman to the max
I read this in the voices of Fred and George Weaselly, please tell me that was your intention
DarkJediKnight
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What is dead may never die... er.. I mean. yea.
Sunster
Member
only maesters read. news is word of mouth.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Yes. Yes it was.
Damn I wish they had some community radio stations. Before his immolation, I bet Kevan was running a pirate broadcast of the realm's sickest lutetunes.
You're listening to KEVN!
That's not even almost true.
Gabriel_Logan
Member
Hot 97 with your boy Davos Seaworth. Mo fingas mo problems.
Admiral Woofington
Member
You're listening to the new hit single by the HoDoors
Don't Let Them Break on Through.
Don't Let Them Break on Through.
Anyone else think it was weird that Arya's reaction was "why go to winterfell the Boltons have it" instead of wanting to go because they have it? I don't think its possible to know they have winterfell without knowing they have Sansa. I would think that would make it an even bigger revenge priority
Gabriel_Logan
Member
Can u play some Tyrell trap music?
Yeah, thought that was weird. Her hate boner for the Boltons should be about the same as the Freys. Roose was the one that personally murdered her brother and surely she would have heard that. Add onto that they're despoiling her home off of their betrayal of the North and I thought she would have gone there straight away after the Freys to become the ghost of Winterfell and mass murder her some Boltons.
Psychoward
Banned
at least she actually has supernatural voodoo at her disposal unlike 20 good men
The Artisan
Member
quick question about Jorah: archmaester said that after 1 more day, they would send Jorah off to live with the stonemen.
My question with that is, since Jorah was still sane at that point, would the stonemen attack him more and he'd still have to fight for his life? or would they leave him alone seeing his infections?
My question with that is, since Jorah was still sane at that point, would the stonemen attack him more and he'd still have to fight for his life? or would they leave him alone seeing his infections?
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
GOOD CREDIT
BAD CREDIT
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.. with a sensible loan from Lannister Bank! Send a raven to Littlefinger TOOODAAYYYY
BAD CREDIT
NO CREDIT
YOOUUUUUU CAN BET IT
.. with a sensible loan from Lannister Bank! Send a raven to Littlefinger TOOODAAYYYY
He had only a few months until he turned, right? And it would have taken a few months to get there. Probably would have worked out.
The Artisan
Member
archmaester said 6 months or less
DarkJediKnight
Member
Can we get more scenes with Randyll Tarly? That man's voice is a treasure. I loved listening to him destroy Sam and keep Jaime honest.
A thousand pies, and one.
Psychoward
Banned
yeah him bashing Sam is always great
but someone mentioned a bit ago, why on earth would he even come to visit Cersei if he's sworn to House Tyrell, the same Cersei that just blew up Margaery, Loras and Mace.
this show makes no sense sometimes