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[Hookshot]

I entered this thread to see what seems like a fairly valid and genuine concern from a dev.

I leave GAY

Unpacking strikes again.

 

[bender]

What he said is very much relevant to the game. It's not a game that comes up much in discussions here so it's as good a place as any for him to vent if he needed to.

I don't really care much, but if the content in Unpacking how it was rated is an issue, it's probably better served in its' own as that discussion isn't relative or productive to the topic at hand.

 

[March Climber]

What he said is very much relevant to the game. It's not a game that comes up much in discussions here so it's as good a place as any for him to vent if he needed to.

So you're saying using a thread about Nintendo's eshop issues to vent and go on a long diatribe regarding the example game and derailing said eshop thread, not a form of triggered response?

 

[Raploz]

I don't get people who think it's not fine to show LGBT relationships to children but love when the same type of media shows opposite sex characters love stories, and even explicit kisses. It's literally the same thing. Why would the fact the character is bi be enough of a reason to avoid showing the game to your child when straight relationships are all over the media and never caused us any harm? There's nothing bad letting children know LGBT people exist and are part of normal family configurations. I thought the fear your kid would turn gay when seeing a rainbow was left behind in the last century, but I guess not.

 

[GHG]

I don't really care much, but if the content in Unpacking how it was rated is an issue, it's probably better served in its' own as that discussion isn't relative or productive to the topic at hand.

So you're saying using a thread about Nintendo's eshop issues to vent and go on a long diatribe regarding the example game and derailing said eshop thread, not a form of triggered response?

I'm just going to say it. This thread probably isn't as active without his input regarding what his kid experienced with it.

2 birds, one cup.

 

[bender]

I'm just going to say it. This thread probably isn't as active without his input regarding what his kid experienced with it.

And? That's not really counter to anything I said.

 

[Thief1987]

That’s rude, my man.

The only rude thing here is your suggestions, nothing more.

 

[Raploz]

Though now getting back to the thread topic, does anyone remember The Last Hope: Dead Zone Survival? This is not the first time this happens on e-Shop:

I think the game creator is right about this issue. I don't think many people buy the wrong game just because of the title, but the fact e-Shop is filled to the brim with those "games" is a problem Nintendo ought to fix.

 

[March Climber]

I'm just going to say it. This thread probably isn't as active without his input regarding what his kid experienced with it.

2 birds, one cup.

Man...I've said it before on this forum and I'll say it again, it sure would be nice to have someone here to run defense, aide, and save me conversationally the way that some of you do for others.

Like I consider EDMIX a decent guy, but whenever he goes on a long rant in a thread and sometimes falls flat on his face I just let it happen because sometimes I think it's okay to take a loss and learn from it.

cireza You have a hell of a friend here.

 

[GHG]

And? That's not really counter to anything I said.

It wasn't supposed to be a counter ya silly robot.

I was just making a statement on how I see things after this thread has unfolded the way it has.

The last thread we got regarding this game only got a single reply:

Award-winning indie game Unpacking has finally been dated for PlayStation

Award-winning indie game Unpacking has finally been dated for PlayStation It will arrive next week for PS4 and PS5 Celebrated indie game Unpacking has finally received a PlayStation release date. The title, which Australia development studio Witch Beam describes as “a zen puzzle game about...

www.neogaf.com

Could he have made a thread at some point instead? Probably, but it might not have been at the forefront of his mind to do so and let it slide until the relevant opportunity arose to bring it up.

cireza You have a hell of a friend here.

Me and cireza were at war until I got my Phil avatar.

 

[ADiTAR]

Unpacking guy: Hello, Nintendo?!?!?!
Nintendo: Sorry, we're currently busy dealing with DBrand.

 

[bender]

It wasn't supposed to be a counter ya silly robot.

I was just making a statement on how I see things after this thread has unfolded the way it has.

The last thread we got regarding this game only got a single reply:

Award-winning indie game Unpacking has finally been dated for PlayStation

Award-winning indie game Unpacking has finally been dated for PlayStation It will arrive next week for PS4 and PS5 Celebrated indie game Unpacking has finally received a PlayStation release date. The title, which Australia development studio Witch Beam describes as “a zen puzzle game about...

www.neogaf.com

Could he have made a thread at some point instead? Probably, but it might not have been at the forefront of his mind to do so and let it slide until the relevant opportunity arose to bring it up.

But this isn't a relevant opportunity which is the whole point.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

It does exactly this. The main character is a girl, grows up, starts living with a guy. The game shows (without much subtlety) that the guy is an asshole so OF COURSE the girl becomes lesbian. Most logical course of action !

I find this dumb but whatever, the issue is not about a girl becoming homosexual because she couldn't easily store her things in her boyfriend's flat. It is about :
Rated E for Everyone. Age 3+.

The game was in Game Pass, I installed it for my kids to try it out. And after a while... question from my 6 years old girl :
Dad, where are the boy's things and why are another girl's things instead ?
My answer :
The boy was an absolute asshole darling, so the girl decided to love girls instead and became lesbian. Grow up to be a beautiful lesbian. Living with a man is bad. Dad is an asshole too.
Of course I didn't answer this and uninstalled the game instead.

I personally find unacceptable to push these kind of themes in Age 3+ games.

That sounds like utter tripe. I wouldn't want to be explaining that shite to my six year old either. Why on earth would they even need to know shit like that?

 

[GHG]

But this isn't a relevant opportunity which is the whole point.

 

[cireza]

I didn't mean to shift the thread on another discussion. I simply reacted due to my past experience with the game, and I was asked to further elaborate so I did.

 

[Kacho]

I didn't mean to shift the thread on another discussion. I simply reacted due to my past experience with the game, and I was asked to further elaborate so I did.

We all know. You didn’t do anything wrong. We just have a bunch of magoos worried about staying on topic in thread that would have been on page 4 otherwise because no1currrrr about this dev.

 

[MMaRsu]

No, that was referencing your post, and you're still at it.

Lets have some self reflection here.

Some people are triggered as soon as they catch a whiff of lesbians/lgtbq.

And they say the non conservatives are snowflakes. Cmon man.

Ontopic: this is bullshit and Nintendo should remove it. Im sure they wouldnt let : Mario Odyssey Deluxe Edition on the store if its some shovelware trash.

 

[March Climber]

We all know. You didn’t do anything wrong. We just have a bunch of magoos worried about staying on topic in thread that would have been on page 4 otherwise because no1currrrr about this dev.

He did, but it's okay. Personally I'll admit I just dislike when people try to paint a different picture than what I am currently seeing. It bothers my logical side. I can never put aside the truth to defend someone, and maybe that's a fault I'll have to live with on this forum.

However, I appreciate this response:

I didn't mean to shift the thread on another discussion. I simply reacted due to my past experience with the game, and I was asked to further elaborate so I did.

Because cireza owning up to it and apologizing in his own way, instead of doing what you and GHG just did. No offense to either of you.

 

[Raploz]

That sounds like utter tripe. I wouldn't want to be explaining that shite to my six year old either. Why on earth would they even need to know shit like that?

If the character dumped her boyfriend for another boyfriend and the kid asked, would you be having the same reaction? It's no different. Just say she left the boyfriend and found a girlfriend, it's not difficult.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

I really wonder how many people even buy all of the knock off/shovel wear shit on the eShop?

it always amazes me how much the eShop is an absolute dumpster fire
page after page after page of the shittiest games.

nintendo has no shame

 

[Dr.Morris79]

If the character dumped her boyfriend for another boyfriend and the kid asked, would you be having the same reaction? It's no different. Just say she left the boyfriend and found a girlfriend, it's not difficult.

I raised my kid how I wanted. Turned out to be a brilliant lad

All without having to talk about weird sexual habits of people, at six.

 

[Woopah]

Awesome job at totally missing the point.

Nowhere did I say that I have an issue with the topic. The issue is that this is a game rated 3+.


Do I really need to explain how I want, as a father, be in control of how and when themes such as this are presented to my 6 year old daughter ?

Do you have an issue with 3+ rated media featuring straight themes?

I prefer such games to have an LGBTQ tag. I do not want this social contagion anywhere near children (especially anyone less than 11-12 years old).

Check on common sense media for such content in books/movies/games, before you download/buy. For example, on common sense media, for unpacking under diverse representations it says "Unpacking provides important positive LGBTQ+ representation. The main character is queer and enjoys a happy ending with her partner and newborn baby. Additionally, the presence of a Menorah indicates the main character is Jewish, an underrepresented ethno-religious group in games, and a Hamsa wall hanging also appears later in the game, which could belong to the main character's partner, and is generally representative of Middle Eastern heritage."

Likewise do you prefer games with straight characters to have a heterosexual tag, so we can keep the social contagion in check?

 

[Raploz]

I raised my kid how I wanted. Turned out to be a brilliant lad

All without having to talk about weird sexual habits of people, at six.

So lesbians are "weird sexual habits". What about straight people? If you don't want to be hypocritical you wouldn't want your kid seeing straight relationships in media either. If you think there's a difference between those two that's straight up homophobia and I really hope your son didn't learn that from you.

 

[MMaRsu]

I raised my kid how I wanted. Turned out to be a brilliant lad

All without having to talk about weird sexual habits of people, at six.

Being gay is a weird sexual habit now

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

It does exactly this. The main character is a girl, grows up, starts living with a guy. The game shows (without much subtlety) that the guy is an asshole so OF COURSE the girl becomes lesbian. Most logical course of action !

I find this dumb but whatever, the issue is not about a girl becoming homosexual because she couldn't easily store her things in her boyfriend's flat. It is about :
Rated E for Everyone. Age 3+.

The game was in Game Pass, I installed it for my kids to try it out. And after a while... question from my 6 years old girl :
Dad, where are the boy's things and why are another girl's things instead ?
My answer :
The boy was an absolute asshole darling, so the girl decided to love girls instead and became lesbian. Grow up to be a beautiful lesbian. Living with a man is bad. Dad is an asshole too.
Of course I didn't answer this and uninstalled the game instead.

I personally find unacceptable to push these kind of themes in Age 3+ games.

Sounds like a lifetime movie.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

So lesbians are "weird sexual habits"

No one said that.

. What about straight people?

What about them? If you want grandkids, that's the standard, yes

If you don't want to be hypocritical you wouldn't want your kid seeing straight relationships in media either.

What?

If you think there's a difference between those two that's straight up homophobia and I really hope your son didn't learn that from you.

lesbians like women, Not men and woman, that's called Bisexual. I'm not really into explaining the sexual weirdness of Bisexuality to a six year old, because that's confusing as fuck to a six year old

Glad to help. Go grind your axe somewhere else.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Being gay is a weird sexual habit now

See my post above smart arse

 

[RoboFu]