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UWSP student asks court to force poetry professor to give her an A

Tain

Member
do old rich conservatives with nothing better to do pass time by taking college courses and acting unbearable?
 
I've seen some profs be open to alternate assignments but wow, what an ass that person is, just a huge waste of time and resources.
 
"You're telling me people I don't like write in English too??!"

I'm not even sure why you'd persue academic study in English if you're so close minded.

English is, uh, pretty diverse.
 

Madness

Member
One of my professors, we collectively as a class got the student union, dean involved because he assigned a shared essay assignment in which 4 people would work together to do their own essays, meaning we do our own and they cannot be identical but we discuss the subject matter as a group, we then submit 4 essays, he picks only one of the 4 and all of us get whatever mark that paper gets. I coule get A- or more on my essays with my eyes closed, and 2 of the other 3 weren't even willing to meet up. But this guy wanted to go for some insane community based school work, not focus on grades so much. But in a world where GPA means everything, people have scholarships, post graduate and jobs depending on grades, I wasn't leaving it upto chance he picked the girl who did the C+ paper. I ended up with like 92% on my essay, 2 of the other 3 barely got 70%, the other got like 85%.

Nothing I hated more in university than some Professors who wanted to 'change' the world type. I am okay with being exposed to new things, but nothing unfair like that.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
One of my professors, we collectively as a class got the student union, dean involved because he assigned a shared essay assignment in which 4 people would work together to do their own essays, meaning we do our own and they cannot be identical but we discuss the subject matter as a group, we then submit 4 essays, he picks only one of the 4 and all of us get whatever mark that paper gets. I coule get A- or more on my essays with my eyes closed, and 2 of the other 3 weren't even willing to meet up. But this guy wanted to go for some insane community based school work, not focus on grades so much. But in a world where GPA means everything, people have scholarships, post graduate and jobs depending on grades, I wasn't leaving it upto chance he picked the girl who did the C+ paper. I ended up with like 92% on my essay, 2 of the other 3 barely got 70%, the other got like 85%.

Nothing I hated more in university than some Professors who wanted to 'change' the world type. I am okay with being exposed to new things, but nothing unfair like that.

There's a push to try new methods of learning and one of those is collaborative work, since it theoretically allows students to basically learn by teaching each other as well.

The problem, as you said, is that if everyone in the group isn't accountable, then the group as a whole loses. But a professor should have accounted for that and come up with some kind of mediation or penalty for non-participation.
 
There's a push to try new methods of learning and one of those is collaborative work, since it theoretically allows students to basically learn by teaching each other as well.

The problem, as you said, is that if everyone in the group isn't accountable, then the group as a whole loses. But a professor should have accounted for that and come up with some kind of mediation or penalty for non-participation.

Yeah group work is a legitimate part of the process. I know college isn't always job training, but group work is the reality in a working environment. But it has to be handled correctly.

I did my masters online and there were some group assignments. It was handled well. But that could be in part be due to the general fact that in graduate programs, people are more motivated and focused because that is something they want to do.
 

kamineko

Does his best thinking in the flying car
I think a lot of contemporary assignments are pretty bad, but that's poetry for you. That said, it's silly to expect syllabi custom-tailored for one student's tastes

source: working on my MFA poetry thesis
 

MGrant

Member
If she wanted to study the classics, maybe she should have... taken a Literature course about the classics.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Yeah group work is a legitimate part of the process. I know college isn't always job training, but group work is the reality in a working environment. But it has to be handled correctly.

I did my masters online and there were some group assignments. It was handled well. But that could be in part be due to the general fact that in graduate programs, people are more motivated and focused because that is something they want to do.

Yeah, I've never had or assigned serious group work to freshman because the results are disastrous if there are any real stakes. But by the end of the program or in grad school, you have to expect that the students have evolved from drunken teens experiencing freedom for the first time in their lives to at least somewhat responsible adults.
 

sirap

Member
Arnold is new? I remember that from the '90s.
It was the renderer for Messiah.

Come on man no one used Messiah lol.

Which is shame. I was a long-time Lightwave/Fprime user and moving to Messiah just felt natural to me.
 
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