Sleeplessnights
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Valve announces SteamOS
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Mithos
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Not joking, that's how I heat my room. No I really really mean it.
It will be cool to see if this works out long term, but I prefer Windows. I love Steam and wish Valve the best of luck (and will definitely continue to build my library there), but even if it's a no nonsense, usable from download OS, I will still continue to use Windows because it gives me everything I need, PLUS compatibility with all my games.
It would be cool if as a platform, this is used to bridge some type of compatibility between the XB1/PS4 systems to allow PC gaming via console.
It would be cool if as a platform, this is used to bridge some type of compatibility between the XB1/PS4 systems to allow PC gaming via console.
PotionBleue
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I don't understand. What is the benefit over simply outputting my PC to my TV monitor?
Also isn't streaming supposed to induce input lag, compression artifacts and the likes? Why play PC games if you're sabotaging the output quality and experience, really?
This sounds absurdly useless to me, but I still hope other announcements will be interesting.
Also isn't streaming supposed to induce input lag, compression artifacts and the likes? Why play PC games if you're sabotaging the output quality and experience, really?
This sounds absurdly useless to me, but I still hope other announcements will be interesting.
LiquidMetal14
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Welp, I laughed lol
1) It says it's Linux based.
2) It says that you need a PC/Mac on your home network in order to stream PC/Mac only games over to it. Right in the part you quoted. It doesn't run them natively.
lightning2k3
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Actually now that I have thought about it over a little bit, I think that this is less of a megaton than I originally thought. The prospect of a steambox < 200 is pretty low if the box wants to have components in it to natively run AAA games. The streaming stuff is nice, but i dont know if it will convert people from the next gen consoles yet. Honestly, I think this will target a good niche of hardcore PC gamers, but i dont see the broad appeal that would move millions of units or compete with next gen consoles.
jediyoshi
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The second you have to open up shell to do anything, you've probably lost most people.
Anything with the networking and processing power to handle 1080p streaming, I would assume.
EDIT: or whatever res you'd be playing at.
Lasthope106
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Since everyone is making predictions I'll throw mine in the pile.
Half-Life 3 will be a SteamOS timed exclusive. What better way to encourage mass adoption of a new platform than releasing the most anticipated title ever on it. Valve did is on the past with Steam and HL2.
Half-Life 3 will be a SteamOS timed exclusive. What better way to encourage mass adoption of a new platform than releasing the most anticipated title ever on it. Valve did is on the past with Steam and HL2.
Wow, the performance increase sounds reaaaaaly great. I'll definitely install this baby on my machine as soon as possible and see it for myself.
There's one thing I'm wondering, though. Steam already has software available for download... I wonder if, with the SteamOS, software will also be usable. It'd probably work just fine for Linux software, but Windows software would probably need porting.
Well, colour me interested!
Pretty sure the next reveal will be the Steambox. I. Can't. Wait.
There's one thing I'm wondering, though. Steam already has software available for download... I wonder if, with the SteamOS, software will also be usable. It'd probably work just fine for Linux software, but Windows software would probably need porting.
Well, colour me interested!
Pretty sure the next reveal will be the Steambox. I. Can't. Wait.
I'm excited, but not to the point that some people are. I don't think this is going to have some crazy impact on Windows, or anything like that. I think that it'll be neat if they manage to avoid some of the issues that plague Linux. I'll probably end up dual booting for it, at least to see what it offers.
My main hope is that the streaming solution isn't garbage, and aside from that I'm really more interested in the box and controller.
*Ah, my misunderstanding. Apparently your computer won't be running the SteamOS, you'll be booting it on another device and accessing it through your Steam client on Windows?
My main hope is that the streaming solution isn't garbage, and aside from that I'm really more interested in the box and controller.
*Ah, my misunderstanding. Apparently your computer won't be running the SteamOS, you'll be booting it on another device and accessing it through your Steam client on Windows?
maabus1999
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I wonder if streaming + new OS is actually going to be faster then an HDMI run from windows. Not sure for how I have my house wired I'll see any benefit. Wait and see.
Now if there is a major performance gain, I may create a dual boot partition on my PC, but I do way more then just gaming on my PC to sacrifice Windows.
Bah, need more info. Not really excited yet.
Now if there is a major performance gain, I may create a dual boot partition on my PC, but I do way more then just gaming on my PC to sacrifice Windows.
Bah, need more info. Not really excited yet.
Hot Coldman
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Steam Windows isn't going anywhere, so no.
Robot Pants
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HL3 is within reach
Not only this but I expect the Steamboxes to be updated each year with up to date components vs the "stick with the same HW for 7 years" approach. The moment you buy a new Steambox, all your game collection can be played with better graphics. Benefits of the PC, with the simplicity/focus of a console... I'm definitely interested.
xrayregime
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Xbox One = Xbone
SteamOS = Stamos
SteamOS = Stamos
CountAntonius
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So with PS4 games running on a version of Linux already doesn't seem like it would take to much work to port it over to Steambox right?
probably talking about the 420 (huhuhuh) linux games already on the steam store.
Yes.
Graphics Horse
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Theoretically they could insist on only selling games that have a SteamOS version, but I don't think that'll happen yet.
Well yeah but the 2014 news should mean a bigger push as it's an official product now.
SteveWinwood
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it is now time for everyone to pretend they know everything about linux
Horsemama1956
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I unhook my PC and move it to the location of my tv and hook it up there. Then I unhook it from the TV and move it back to my desk when i'm done with it. I find it works pretty well.
Prophet Steve
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I'd compare something like this to have some media center device. Sure, I can have a PC with a blu-ray player and XBMC and whatever and it plays everything I want.
But for one, if I start from scratch it is probably more expensive. It is more difficult to assemble/install. More difficulty in connecting it to a tv. Probably larger sized. Stuff like that. It can be way more convenient for more people to just have a box like this.
jediyoshi
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Keyword: Too. It's a given you'd be running Linux games, gives context to them spending all this time getting goldsrc and source games running on it.
Cannon Goose
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I think it's Civilisation 5, Football Manager, Crusader Kings 2, Trine 2 and Metro Last Light.
maabus1999
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Xbox One = Xbone
SteamOS = Stamos
Naa, it will be SOS.
Well it's a nice option if you can get to them without signing out of the client now, it'll make things easier. Plus they seem to be ushering as much support as they can for Linux so you don't have to stream everything. Best of all it's free, you don't have to pay for an extra box just to use the OS.
My question exactly
I have no problem with how things have been going for years. Admittedly MS every now and then tries to make it a problem like they did with GFWL at its start and the beginning days of Windows 8 but then they get their asses chewed out and go back to normal. Win xp and Win 7 have been great for me.
Their Xbox division has done far more permanent damage to PC games over the years than Windows has.
Yeah, I think this is true. I still think it's a better solution for me though, worth the work I'll have.
I hope you're not one of these crazy guys that count frames and FPS of games instead of playing them then... because I'm sure this will have input lag in many setups.
I mean... people are bothering with Vita TV/Vita remote play right now... who knows how good this will be.
I'll wait to see.
opticalmace
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Maybe they would have to offer it to some degree in terms of setting up drivers? I'm not sure.
I'm just speculating. I would assume if they go for something more than just boot-to-Steam it would require a lot more time working on all the other OS functions. I don't expect this to replace Ubuntu for me, if that's what you mean.
I don't understand why anyone would use this on PC. I mean, none of the Windows applications will work and it will take a while for most of the games to support it (and games released in the past will obviously not work). And unless I missed something, they didn't announce any cool features that the OS has..?
Basileus777
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Yes, it's called an HDMI cable.
Ciastek3214
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If Valve continues to move away from Windows, and eventually separates itself entirely from it, it won't end well for them, and us.
Bulbagarden
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@ShamsJorjani (from Paradox Entertainment, makers of Europa Universalis) has been saying a couple of interesting things related to this announcement on Twitter. Looks like the inclusion of the EUIV screen on the announcement page might not be a co-incidence...
Enticing, not forcing. If Valve provided devs with tools that would make it much easier to port games to Linux, why not?
EventHorizon
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Microsoft should not have taken its focus away from gaming. They'll lose console market share to the PS4 which focuses on gaming and they'll lose some OS market share to Steam OS that is focused on gaming. The funny thing is that the steam OS will get multimedia support from apps such as Plex and beat MS on that side too.
Windows XP will be losing support next year. A good many of those boxes will now be switching to SteamOS to maintain some level of support and functionality. Microsoft might just have to continue XP support to prevent that from happening.
Windows XP will be losing support next year. A good many of those boxes will now be switching to SteamOS to maintain some level of support and functionality. Microsoft might just have to continue XP support to prevent that from happening.
turnbuckle
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this.
man, if it could somehow be installed on ps4... but it's likely the only way that happens is through hardware modding against the TOS.
Begaria
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Xbox One = Xbone
SteamOS = Stamos
Oh dear god! Well. This has to become a thing.
glimmerman
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... or a service.
This...I don't know. I'm not feeling that excited by this. It just seems essentially like Linux with Steam and Big Picture installed.
What if there to be excited about? Why should somebody go from a Windows 7 PC or their current Linux PC with Steam already installed to this? Help me understand.
I get that they can use this for Steambox. I understand that. But outside of that.
What if there to be excited about? Why should somebody go from a Windows 7 PC or their current Linux PC with Steam already installed to this? Help me understand.
I get that they can use this for Steambox. I understand that. But outside of that.
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