Unknown?
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And the Windows userbase which will be even better for gaming.
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Valve introducing Steam branding guidelines for 3rd party hardware products with Steam features (SteamOS, SteamVR, Steam Link etc)
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ResilientBanana
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If my game console could run Steam, I'd have more than one.
Loomy
Banned
The ones that do will probably have a leg up. Being able to have access to your entire gamepass library of 'free' games AND your Steam library would be great.
Valve also needs to do a lot of advocacy work to get developers to get their games working Linux. Destiny 2 and GTA5 , for example.
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Magic Carpet
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Is there an 'Anticheat' logo?
Topher
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I think Valve would be ok with a dual boot device, but I seriously doubt Microsoft would be. That goes against their entire DNA.
Agree about the dev support. Think they have to figure out the anti-cheat stuff to make headway on that end.
ftfy and yes
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Esparadrapo
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As long as the Windows Store and Game Pass are UWP no, they are not. You'd be able to play Microsoft games bought on Steam/Bnet and play Game Pass on the browser, but games off the Windows Store / Game Pass are out of the question.
Fess
Member
I’m not sure what I want. I kinda hate using SteamOS/Linux for file access stuff for mods etc, everything comes with annoying complexity and workaround solutions. But when I just want to play games SteamOS is fantastic. Steam Deck is 100% like a console.
Maybe a dual boot with Windows for file access and native SteamOS for gaming would be best for me.
Interfectum
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ChuckeRearmed
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Let's see if it is going to be more successful than Steam machines
Guardian Monkey
Member
Is this going to only support certain configurations? Or is Steam OS going to open all configurations for shader comp etc?
Also have they made any ground with the anti cheat conundrum current ongoing with some games?
Also have they made any ground with the anti cheat conundrum current ongoing with some games?
Guardian Monkey
Member
That what I’m wondering I don’t know if this will support custom pcs to get the full feature set.
Papa_Wisdom
Gold Member
Still use my Alienware alpha r2 as my daily pc (upgraded the cpu, ram etc) have an amp with a 1660 super in it
Obviously it’s really long in the tooth now but it still plays most things I throw at it at an acceptable level for me. Plus I basically use it as a lab emulation, retro pc, command and conquer machine
I’m hoping I’ll be able to get a decent experience with steller blade out of it when it comes to pc (im more of a console gamer)
(Very old picture of it)
Obviously it’s really long in the tooth now but it still plays most things I throw at it at an acceptable level for me. Plus I basically use it as a lab emulation, retro pc, command and conquer machine
I’m hoping I’ll be able to get a decent experience with steller blade out of it when it comes to pc (im more of a console gamer)
(Very old picture of it)
hououinkyouma00
Member
Their bets on Xbox worked for quite awhile
Wth is going on with your OG? lolStill use my Alienware alpha r2 as my daily pc (upgraded the cpu, ram etc) have an amp with a 1660 super in it
Obviously it’s really long in the tooth now but it still plays most things I throw at it at an acceptable level for me. Plus I basically use it as a lab emulation, retro pc, command and conquer machine
I’m hoping I’ll be able to get a decent experience with steller blade out of it when it comes to pc (im more of a console gamer)
(Very old picture of it)
HogIsland
Member
People taking this as an opportunity to switch from Windows: you don't have to wait.
SteamOS is for PCs primarily used like a console/handheld. If you want to do that today, install Bazzite. If you want a gaming desktop, you can use popular linux distros like Fedora, Ubuntu, Manjaro and install the Steam client.
SteamOS is for PCs primarily used like a console/handheld. If you want to do that today, install Bazzite. If you want a gaming desktop, you can use popular linux distros like Fedora, Ubuntu, Manjaro and install the Steam client.
Papa_Wisdom
Gold Member
It’s modded with an xecuter chip and replacement front panel with an lcd screen and bios switches, you could buy them back in the day when modding the og was popular
Rubim
Member
SteamOS has nothing to do with consoles and everything to do with PC.
You're talking about a closed plataform vs an open one.
My SteamOS can, and will still look and behave completelly different from yours.
Cyberpunkd
Member
This. The next Steamdeck would be whatever handheld having SteamOS.SteamOS getting closer to be rolled out to third parties.
JimboJones
Member
They'll probably eventually get there but it will be still an annoying thorn in the whole SteamOS side of things for a while.
They need to reach a decently sized user base before devs and anticheat providers decide its worth their time to implement it properly on SteamOS.
Burger King
Member
Anyway I think this is exactly the next Xbox/Microsoft strategy
This + gamepass
They want to become STEAM
This + gamepass
They want to become STEAM
Bry0
Member
At the cost of their position on PC at the time. It just seemed short sighted, they should’ve kept focus on both, but valve found an opportunity and now they are in a position I never ever imagined they would be in back in the 2000’s. A thorn in Microsoft’s side, and they even have a potential path to steering customers away from windows which was also unimaginable in the early steam days. Crazy times.
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Oppoi
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They want to replace Steam.
Modded OG Xbox is greatness still to this day mine died on me about a year or 2 ago when I booted it up to remove personal stuff from the hard drive to give it to my nephew but I guess the motherboard battery got me before I could remove it
sachos
Member
Yeah i meant to say the improved UX from the Steam Deck, what is it called? Steam Big Picture 2.0? The point is they had to increase ease of use to make Steam Deck more appealing and that would make Steam Machine V2 way similar to a console experience. I know you can customize it the way you want it to be, thats cool.
Jinzo Prime
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This.
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish; these are their Words.
Ivan
Member
Exciting times. They just need to implement a solution to turn on the box by a controller and and have a nice rest mode.
Refine UI a bit more and we have a true console competitor with all the pc/steam advantages.
It's not there yet as it is and this is the exact reason, so it needs to be addressed.
Refine UI a bit more and we have a true console competitor with all the pc/steam advantages.
It's not there yet as it is and this is the exact reason, so it needs to be addressed.
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LavitzSlambert
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This feels like it's actually the year of the Linux [gaming] Desktop. For real though, this is Valve coming right for the rest of the gaming market as a major player with an enormous install base on Steam. This is the position Microsoft wishes they were in, and what Sony is moving toward.
Pasta la Vista
Member
This is fucking huge.
Kdad
Member
You think Microsoft is going to give cut rate Windows to manufactures in exchange for a logo and lock in and not have it in their contract that dual boot is a non starter?
Loomy
Banned
I don't understand this question.
I think Microsoft will pickup a lot of Steams market when they make this same move for Xbox because of casuals & many devices with Xbox as the main os with a option to unlock ( X Mode) like the BS they do with the cheaper laptops that casuals buy & never unlock them from S Mode 
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Unknown Soldier
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For fuck's sakes just release SteamOS as a normal Linux distribution so anyone can install it
Kdad
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Microsoft provides cut rate licenses to manufacturers to get their OS on a machine and their logo on the case...you think MS is going to allow that manufacturer to cobrand with a dual booting machine? I guess anything is possible but that is against everything MS has ever done.
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HogIsland
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Between the new Steam Controller render and "Powered By SteamOS" branding, we basically have confirmation. The big question is whether/when Valve shows off their own Steam living room console.
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
SteamMachines returns
Loomy
Banned
Ah, got it. You're right that it sounds very un-Microsoft, but they have a streaming service they need people to keep paying for, so they have very little leverage in this situation. Every hardware manufacture would gladly say "Okay, just SteamOS then".
Kdad
Member
I'd imagine MS is willing to payout more than Valve for exclusivity with a brand or with the most cutting edge models of a brand. Would that be seen as anticompetitive...probably...but it will take 10 years for that to get through the courts. In the end, SteamOS is going to represent a very small part of the PC landscape at the consumer level (because it is gamer focussed and not a general computing platform) and will the big guys like Asus/Dell/Acer/Lenovo jeopardize having less favourable terms from MS to satisfy a small gamer focused market? Last time tried Steam Machines wasn't it all system integrators except Alienware (which allowed Dell to distance its self on those as strickly gaming focused which MS at the time wasn't trying to compete in like they current are planning?)
Kataploom
Gold Member
I would REALLY love this to happen! I mean, there are many people wanting to get into PC gaming for several reasons but are afraid of PC building or their cost (specially those of prebuilt).
I would definitely gift a couple if they end up being low cost "good enough" machines with SoCs or whatever that could make them be cheaper instead of full blown standard PCs.
HogIsland
Member
The key thing is going to be APU/SoC based designs, like a PS5 or even like a laptop without the peripherals attached. It's not going to be a fully customizable, open motherboard with replaceable CPU, etc. It'll be an integrated design they can crank out in the millions and keep costs low.
We currently similar to ~2018 before the Steam Deck when brands like Aya and GPD were making low volume, super expensive gaming handhelds. There's no-name companies like BeeLink and MinisForum making small format PCs which are way overpriced for their features. A player like Valve can swoop in and make the thing at scale for half the price.
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Kataploom
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That's how I imagine it to be, they already have a great digital platform, all they need is to boost it through some in house hardware, they don't even have to work about people installing windows or using alternative storefronts, most people don't care about that much customization
mayham2199
Member
What are they going to do when they realize they can't even play COD on Linux? Until they get full MP support this isn't going to work and even then there's no guarantee.
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Esparadrapo
Banned
There are 7,292,419 people playing on Steam right now. 145,973 of them are playing CoD. That's ~2%. Hardly an issue.
Wolzard
Member
Just use ChimeraOS or BazziteOS.
Bazzite - The next generation of Linux gaming
Bazzite is a cloud native image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices - including your favorite handheld.
Crayon
Member
They'll start demanding it. As soon as pubs think there's money in it, they pass that up to the anticheat provider and a little more effoet will be expended. Follow the money.
Plenty of people who play the games with bad anticheat also play other games. More people don't play the bad anticheat games at all. So there's not even a chicken-egg problem. It's only a question of supply and demand.