Vampire BloodLine = Deus Ex 1

tenchir

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I have been playing Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodline for the past 3 hours and I must say this game is a lot like Deus Ex 1. This game is a true sucessor to Deus Ex 1 in gameplay. I love how the experience system works and how you can customized your character with the points you have been given.

The only complaints I have so far for this game is the loading time going between areas and the memory leak problem.
 
Fleming said:
Ah targeting is the pain

But i still like it ALOT.

It seems collision detection is a bit off too

Are you melee or ranged?

I am going for a melee character, but so far my firearm skill are higher due to the tomes I bought from the pawn shop.

What memory leak? No patch yet?

The memory leak seem to only affect some people.... like me for example. I noticed the game getting really stuttery after a couple of hours. So I quit and start it up again, then the stuttering stops.
 
I think it's a pretty cool game, but it's very unpolished. Lots of graphical glitches, an apparent memory leak, long load times, and iffy combat mechanics. Much like Deus Ex, you're right.
 
Bristow said:
I think it's a pretty cool game, but it's very unpolished. Lots of graphical glitches, an apparent memory leak, long load times, and iffy combat mechanics. Much like Deus Ex, you're right.

Considering they had ALOT of time to polish the game (aperantly it was finished a few months ago but they had to wait for HL2 to be realesed), that's dissapointing.
Still gonna get the game though! And you comparing it to Deus Ex just makes me want it even more. How's the story so far?
 
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You got me into this thread by equating this Vampire Bloodline to the greatest PC game of all time. Please, tell me more.
 
I agree its a very good game. In fact, probably the best pc rpg for this year. Loading times aren't too bad if you just create an image of cd1 and use that with a virtual cd drive. Great game. Visuals are alright, look very good with my 6800gt. Only negative I have is I can't really change the character's appearance which I assumed would be there looking at previews.
 
You got me into this thread by equating this Vampire Bloodline to the greatest PC game of all time. Please, tell me more.

Well, you run around in a central hub (it looks like there are 4 of them -- each a part of LA and one that is either Chinatown or China itself) and pick up missions from various people. Incredibly cool missions at that -- early on you're asked to tredge through the sewers to get to an abandoned hotel to acquire an object. Once you get there...well, you'll see for yourself but it's probably the coolest section of any game I've played all year.

Missions are fairly open-ended inasmuchas they were in Deus Ex. You can take the direct approach and go in bashing heads. Alternatively, you can sneak in and out of areas so long as your stealth stats are high enough. You can blast your way through areas to pick up keys or you can build up your security stats and pick locks instead. You can even hack computers to read people's email (which often contains things like numeric passcodes to get you inside locked doors).

The storyline is great too. You can tell everyone has their own agenda and you're being played as a pawn by unseen forces. People react to you based on your actions the same way they do in Fable only their reactions affect your missions a lot more in Vampire.

It really does channel the original Deus Ex.

The only problem is the game is pretty glitchy. After I finished a quest for the club owner the game decided to not let me call the elevator that takes me back downstairs. I sat there puzzled for a bit before reloading from an earlier save. There's clipping galore, the framerate is absolutely abysmal when you're outdoors, and the hit detection is really wonky -- although that might be because my character is a lover and not a fighter. Aside from the elevator bug I haven't run into any showstoppers but for a game that's supposedly been finished for almost a year I would expect it to be nearly flawless.
 
The haunted mansion is indeed awesome to play. My character so far isn't the fighting type, I have been putting points into conversational skills and hacking/researching.

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Can't wait to meet her.
 
Boogie said:
You got me into this thread by equating this Vampire Bloodline to the greatest PC game of all time. Please, tell me more.

Careful. I bought Apex because people said it was like Ridge Racer. Nothing could be further from the truth.
 
Anyone done the "Thin Blooded" quest? I got the stuff from the diner, went to the bail bond place and got some info on some dude and his car. Now what?
 
I was just messing around with it. Yeah, it's definitely lacking polish. It doesn't run as well as I'd like it to for being such a plain-looking game. Still, it appears to have a pretty neat level-up system and all the different vampire bloodlines is pretty cool. I think I'll wait for a patch or two before spending any real time with it, though.

TheGreenGiant said:
can i ask if this is a fps? if yes. Sales -1. Looks nice
It's an RPG that can be played in first or third person perspective. First person perspective is probably the best view, since your character model is ugly to look at and doesn't animate especially well.
 
If it is really Deus Ex 2...can I go through the whole game without fighting?
 
If it is really Deus Ex 2...can I go through the whole game without fighting?

No, not really -- there are boss-type battles. If your stealth is high enough you can get around a lot of the combat though (which you should because the fighting is just horrible).
 
I am hugely dissapointed with this game. It just feels so unpolished. Excessive load times, shitty animation (other than the facial animation), terrible combat... The length and amount of load times is what pisses me off the most. If a developer is making a game for a platform with tons of ram and a fast hard drive and yet still have longer load times than a console game YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG! Bah! This was one of my more anticipated games :(
 
golem said:
its fun but once again im disappointed at how unpolished a Troika game is.

Every Troika game is very unpolished, its pretty much their trademark. If they could stop fucking games up like that, they could be a real contender for top RPG producer.
 
Pimpbaa said:
If a developer is making a game for a platform with tons of ram and a fast hard drive and yet still have longer load times than a console game YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG! Bah!

Tell that to Valve... Maybe this will be a consistent flaw with the Source engine...
 
If you're having issues with moving outdoors, make sure that your virtual memory is static instead of dynamic. I changed that so it's always at 1.5 gigs and that helped quite a bit in the outdoor sections.
 
I cannot finish the thinned blood mission. What do I do after going to the bail bond? Am I suppose to find a red lightning car? Where is the car?
 
Jeez. Yet another game I now want to play. Guess I can quit my job, lock myself in my room...then maybe I'm get through my game backlog by oh, next summer.
 
Dude: "Where do you think you're going?"
Me: "Hey, you don't think a guy like me's dangerous to a big man like you, do you?"
Dude: "EW"
Dude: "Dude"
Dude: "Just go in"
Dude: "ugh"
 
What's up with this game? It gets really choppy for me in the beginning cut scenes, then gets choppy during some game play segments. :\

I'm running it on an Alienware Area 51m 3.2ghz laptop with 1 gig of RAM and a mobile Radeon 9600 card. Any tips on which graphics options I might need to tone down or shut off?
 
Lyte Edge said:
What's up with this game? It gets really choppy for me in the beginning cut scenes, then gets choppy during some game play segments. :\

I'm running it on an Alienware Area 51m 3.2ghz laptop with 1 gig of RAM and a mobile Radeon 9600 card. Any tips on which graphics options I might need to tone down or shut off?

There isn't really any options cept turning off bump mapping and environmental detail. Even with those on the lowest settings it runs like crap. You just have to get used to it until they release a patch.
 
turning down the soft shadows to simple helped my gameplay alot.. now running at 1024 8xAF 2xAA and works well on my 9800pro.. city sequences are a little slow sometimes but u dont do much there anyways
 
Lyte Edge said:
What's up with this game? It gets really choppy for me in the beginning cut scenes, then gets choppy during some game play segments. :\

I'm running it on an Alienware Area 51m 3.2ghz laptop with 1 gig of RAM and a mobile Radeon 9600 card. Any tips on which graphics options I might need to tone down or shut off?

Did you uncheck high quality audio in the options menu? I read this in the console gold forums:

http://www.consolegold.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2846

Unchecking high quality audio is supposed to help with performance. And since it sounds like the game doesn't support the full range of audio features no reason to keep it on. I don't have the game yet so I'm not sure. But I'm probably going to go pick this up later tonight. I need to support an RPG that isn't about angsty spikey haired teenage boys who were abandoned at birth and no where else to go except save the world.
 
I need to support an RPG that isn't about angsty spikey haired teenage boys who were abandoned at birth and no where else to go except save the world.

Right, because Vampire: The Masquerade is the most angst free source material ever :lol

I'm enjoying the game though, hopefully i'll beat it this weekend.
 
Right, because Vampire: The Masquerade is the most angst free source material ever

I don't know much about the source material. :/ But vampires are cool and Troika makes some good, yet crippled games.


How bad are the bugs?

It's the one thing that is still holding me back from waiting on this game until a patch or two. I'm reading there are some pretty nasty ones in the game. Which is very disappointing as even with all this extra time it sounds like another token Troika release: Great game, good story, but tons of crippling bugs.
 
Mrbob said:
I don't know much about the source material. :/ But vampires are cool and Troika makes some good, yet crippled games.

Its been years since I've done anything with Vampire, but I'm pretty sure Angst is involved in your stats somehow.
 
You have a certain level of 'coping with damnation'. Most of the characters are either 'goth' or flat out 'boo hoo, i'm eternally damned, I don't want to drink blood'.

It was worse in the first Vampire game for the pc. You were a knight of the Crusades and got bitten and half of the game was 'Captain God Boy(tm)' coping with the fact that he was now going to hell.

It's all understandable positions because they play up the religious angle as do most vampire settings but damned if it doesn't get old sometimes. Either way, Angst free, it is not.
 
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